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Interview At Charing Cross Hospital! Help Please! (Pathology)

Hey Guys;

Since handing in my MSc project about a month ago, I've applied to about 8 positions of which, I’ve since had two interview acceptances and two rejections (didn't make it into shortlisting), first interview where I didn’t get the job (I asked for feedback after the interview if they were willing to give it and effectively got told I passed the interview, but someone scored higher than me before explaining where) and this one. The two rejections for the jobs I didn’t get was because I have no experience in that field (all my experience so far is in either clinical biochemistry or virology and the position I got turned down for was in point of care testing). Still waiting on the final four.

Long story short, it’s for a post I’ve had before, but on a much smaller scale in a different diagnostic lab (I’ve been an Associate Practitioner for two and a half years before) and I have since been out of work for a year as I left to pick up my Masters in Biomedical Science (of which I have my viva for just 4 days before this job interview in question…).

If anyone has any advice as to what they could ask, I’d be grateful! 🙂
(edited 3 months ago)
First point, if it is face to face make sure you know that Charing Cross Hospital is actually in Hammersmith and nowhere near Charing Cross. (Hammersmith hospital is actually in White City).


What Band and Specialism are you interviewing in?
Original post by HealthcareSci
First point, if it is face to face make sure you know that Charing Cross Hospital is actually in Hammersmith and nowhere near Charing Cross. (Hammersmith hospital is actually in White City).


What Band and Specialism are you interviewing in?


Band: 4
Specialism: Clinical Biochemistry
Original post by QUOTE=HealthcareSci
First point, if it is face to face make sure you know that Charing Cross Hospital is actually in Hammersmith and nowhere near Charing Cross. (Hammersmith hospital is actually in White City).


What Band and Specialism are you interviewing in?


The main reason I’m applying for this is because I left my job last year in August to pick up my MSc in Biomedical Science (I need it effectively to get the higher bands) and it became clear that my training officer just stopped being a training officer effectively…

I suspect where the lab was discontinued (it was a virology lab which attained a teaching lab certificate in its last 2 months of functioning), she just stopped marking people’s work (I handed in 4 pieces of evidence in February and come May, I get an email saying she didn’t have time to mark my work), despite her saying she would mark it despite me leaving as I was waiting a whole year to have my work looked at despite no one else doing the portfolio…

So I have 5 pieces of evidence needed to be signed off (I have had 25 of 30 pieces of evidence signed off and a further 4 pieces completed but not looked at….). So I’m hoping, all going well, to have my portfolio completed within six months!
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Original post by Scienceisgood
The main reason I’m applying for this is because I left my job last year in August to pick up my MSc in Biomedical Science (I need it effectively to get the higher bands) and it became clear that my training officer just stopped being a training officer effectively…
I suspect where the lab was discontinued (it was a virology lab which attained a teaching lab certificate in its last 2 months of functioning), she just stopped marking people’s work (I handed in 4 pieces of evidence in February and come May, I get an email saying she didn’t have time to mark my work), despite her saying she would mark it despite me leaving as I was waiting a whole year to have my work looked at despite no one else doing the portfolio…
So I have 5 pieces of evidence needed to be signed off (I have had 25 of 30 pieces of evidence signed off and a further 4 pieces completed but not looked at….). So I’m hoping, all going well, to have my portfolio completed within six months!

Ok, that sounds reasonable. I'll admit I don't know the process of moving your registration portfolio from one department to another. However, if your last lab closed or lost it's IBMS training accreditation then it looks like a valid reason to reuse the previous evidence.

As for the interview itself, I'd make sure you're clear on the following:

The logistics of the service: so the pathology services at CXH are run by North West London Pathology, so be aware of how that sits as a partnership with Imperial. Make sure you know the Values for both NWLP and Imperial and have an example of how you meet them. This is particularly important because it's easy to show that you want to a job that finishes your portfolio and aim for an HCPC registered post, make sure you have a good answer for why you want *this* job in *this* department. Something that shows you're committed for the longterm.

UKAS. That UKAS is the sole national accreditation body and verifies medical labs against the ISO:15189 standard. Have an idea of how you would help a lab prepare for the UKAS verification.

As it's biochem, I'd be particularly aware of the difference between Internal Quality Controls, Kit Controls and External Quality Assurance (UKNEQAS is the big one, but it would be good to show that you know that there is a biochem EQA scheme run out of CXH - https://deqas.org/).

For a band 4 post, I'd expect to see questions that show understanding of Levy Jennings plots for IQC, and some of the Westgard Rules that are used for governance. Sometimes you can see questions on your understanding of Uncertainty of Measurement so I'd make sure you're aware of the impact on patient roles. As an AP role is supporting the technical laboratory work, make sure you can speak about what is within your scope of practice and when you would refer something to a senior colleague.

You want to make sure you're aware of the idea of using SOPs, why they are important and why it's essential that you never carry out a procedure without proper training.

Make sure you have examples of how you have demonstrated your ability to work as a team player, any leadership, communication skills. Since a band 4 will be incredibly competitive with other graduates - if you can then try and find ones from your last lab to demonstrate that you've learned from that work experience.

Considering you're worked on a lot of your portfolio, this should be things you've already got knowledge of.

Does this help?
(edited 3 months ago)
Original post by HealthcareSci
Ok, that sounds reasonable. I'll admit I don't know the process of moving your registration portfolio from one department to another. However, if your last lab closed or lost it's IBMS training accreditation then it looks like a valid reason to reuse the previous evidence.
As for the interview itself, I'd make sure you're clear on the following:
The logistics of the service: so the pathology services at CXH are run by North West London Pathology, so be aware of how that sits as a partnership with Imperial. Make sure you know the Values for both NWLP and Imperial and have an example of how you meet them. This is particularly important because it's easy to show that you want to a job that finishes your portfolio and aim for an HCPC registered post, make sure you have a good answer for why you want *this* job in *this* department. Something that shows you're committed for the longterm.
UKAS. That UKAS is the sole national accreditation body and verifies medical labs against the ISO:15189 standard. Have an idea of how you would help a lab prepare for the UKAS verification.
As it's biochem, I'd be particularly aware of the difference between Internal Quality Controls, Kit Controls and External Quality Assurance (UKNEQAS is the big one, but it would be good to show that you know that there is a biochem EQA scheme run out of CXH - https://deqas.org/).
For a band 4 post, I'd expect to see questions that show understanding of Levy Jennings plots for IQC, and some of the Westgard Rules that are used for governance. Sometimes you can see questions on your understanding of Uncertainty of Measurement so I'd make sure you're aware of the impact on patient roles. As an AP role is supporting the technical laboratory work, make sure you can speak about what is within your scope of practice and when you would refer something to a senior colleague.
You want to make sure you're aware of the idea of using SOPs, why they are important and why it's essential that you never carry out a procedure without proper training.
Make sure you have examples of how you have demonstrated your ability to work as a team player, any leadership, communication skills. Since a band 4 will be incredibly competitive with other graduates - if you can then try and find ones from your last lab to demonstrate that you've learned from that work experience.
Considering you're worked on a lot of your portfolio, this should be things you've already got knowledge of.
Does this help?

That's very helpful, thank you so much for telling me. In particular about the Westgard Rules as I may be aware of these (I can't say I do but it might be something I know about but am unfamiliar with the name), so I will research into these!

Yeah, I remember a couple of years back, I applied for a trainee BMS role and got an interview offer and was shown a Levi Jennings graph, only to not know what it was at all... I do now trust me!

I am familiar with most things you've mentioned in the post (minus Westgard Rules) and do remember where I asked for feedback from Hillingdon Hospital (I had an interview with them a couple of weeks ago), I didn't get it as stated in the OP that I didn't mention things like the Human Tissue Act, Equality Act, Measurement of Uncertainty etc... as I didn't know that's where the interview questions were heading! So I'm hoping it won't catch me off guard again!

I also got offered an interview for a hospital which admittedly will be a PITA to reach (I admit I applied for it as a last resort, a Band 2 MLA post) today for the 5th of September, downside is I can't attend that date (I have openly stated this in an email for said Trust and asked if possible, if I can do it via online interview or to even have it the day before if at all possible) as I need to head down to Bristol that day as my Viva is 10am on the 6th and so, can't afford to be late and so am travelling there the day before to ensure I'm not late as whilst I'd like the job, my MSc viva takes presidency as I didn't do my whole MSc to not attend my final deadline!

Cheers!
(edited 3 months ago)
Original post by Scienceisgood
That's very helpful, thank you so much for telling me. In particular about the Westgard Rules as I may be aware of these (I can't say I do but it might be something I know about but am unfamiliar with the name), so I will research into these!
Yeah, I remember a couple of years back, I applied for a trainee BMS role and got an interview offer and was shown a Levi Jennings graph, only to not know what it was at all... I do now trust me!
I am familiar with most things you've mentioned in the post (minus Westgard Rules) and do remember where I asked for feedback from Hillingdon Hospital (I had an interview with them a couple of weeks ago), I didn't get it as stated in the OP that I didn't mention things like the Human Tissue Act, Equality Act, Measurement of Uncertainty etc... as I didn't know that's where the interview questions were heading! So I'm hoping it won't catch me off guard again!
I also got offered an interview for a hospital which admittedly will be a PITA to reach (I admit I applied for it as a last resort, a Band 2 MLA post) today for the 5th of September, downside is I can't attend that date (I have openly stated this in an email for said Trust and asked if possible, if I can do it via online interview or to even have it the day before if at all possible) as I need to head down to Bristol that day as my Viva is 10am on the 6th and so, can't afford to be late and so am travelling there the day before to ensure I'm not late as whilst I'd like the job, my MSc viva takes presidency as I didn't do my whole MSc to not attend my final deadline!
Cheers!

So the Westgard rules are what govern whether we accept a QC result on the LJ plots. Assuming a normal distribution we expect 95% of results to fall within 2 Standard Deviations of the mean. So anything further is a flag and repeat. More than 3 standard deviations is an automatic rejection. And 10 results one side of the mean shows a bias has formed.

There are others but I would focus on those as the most important and so you don't have too much to remember.

Also remember that Hillingdon and CXH pathology services are both run by NWLP so you may find the questions are similar.

Things like the Equality Act are particularly important as the HCPC standards are changing on 1 September. Have a look on their website for details but the general change it's no longer enough to say you have theoretical knowledge of EDI, you have to demonstrate how you apply that knowledge.

Honestly I doubt they will move an MLA interview, but it never hurts to ask. (Tbh, I have been in the NHS almost 20 years and only once had a hiring team move the interview and that's because only 1 person could make it).

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