Are my gcses a problem for law?
I've gotten all 5's in my gcses results even though i was predicated higher 
. i was wondering if i can still go to law school . The alevels I've picked is Psychology, Sociology and Geography. I do plan on retaking English and Maths and maybe Combined science. Is it still possible for me to study law once im done?
. i was wondering if i can still go to law school . The alevels I've picked is Psychology, Sociology and Geography. I do plan on retaking English and Maths and maybe Combined science. Is it still possible for me to study law once im done?(edited 1 month ago)
Original post by Rethryls
I've gotten all 5's in my gcses results even though i was predicated higher . i was wondering if i can still go to law school . The alevels I've picked is Psychology, Sociology and Geography. I do plan on retaking English and Maths and maybe Combined science. Is it still possible for me to study law once im done?
. i was wondering if i can still go to law school . The alevels I've picked is Psychology, Sociology and Geography. I do plan on retaking English and Maths and maybe Combined science. Is it still possible for me to study law once im done?There are many top universities that don’t require particularly high GCSE grades to study law. University of Manchester requires a 4 in GCSE English language and maths. University of Nottingham requires 5 GCSEs including English language and maths at a 4 minimum. University of Bristol and KCL both don’t have any specific GCSE requirements, meaning you would only have to meet their standard university GCSE requirements (for Bristol, that’s a 4 in English language and maths). The most important thing now is to get the A level grades needed to study law at your chosen universities. You don’t need to study law to become a solicitor or barrister anyway.
Original post by Rethryls
I've gotten all 5's in my gcses results even though i was predicated higher . i was wondering if i can still go to law school . The alevels I've picked is Psychology, Sociology and Geography. I do plan on retaking English and Maths and maybe Combined science. Is it still possible for me to study law once im done?
. i was wondering if i can still go to law school . The alevels I've picked is Psychology, Sociology and Geography. I do plan on retaking English and Maths and maybe Combined science. Is it still possible for me to study law once im done?If you are to study law or to practise law you will have to do much a fair bit better in your A levels and at university. This is possible. Not everyone shines at sixteen. It's not uncommon for people to fluff their GCSEs and later do well academically and/or professionally; so don't be downhearted.
PS: "Gotten" is interesting. Gotten had become obsolete in English usage, but it remained current in American usage. Gotten has re-entered English through American culture. I like it!
Original post by Stiffy Byng
Please take this kindly, but you may need to work a bit on your English. In the passage above, you should have written "predicted", not "predicated". Also, you should have written "the A levels I've picked are...". I shall not mention the two apostrophe errors, because this is social media, where apostrophes go in fear of their lives.
If you are to study law or to practise law you will have to do much a fair bit better in your A levels and at university. This is possible. Not everyone shines at sixteen. It's not uncommon for people to fluff their GCSEs and later do well academically and/or professionally; so don't be downhearted.
PS: "Gotten" is interesting. Gotten had become obsolete in English usage, but it remained current in American usage. Gotten has re-entered English through American culture. I like it!
If you are to study law or to practise law you will have to do much a fair bit better in your A levels and at university. This is possible. Not everyone shines at sixteen. It's not uncommon for people to fluff their GCSEs and later do well academically and/or professionally; so don't be downhearted.
PS: "Gotten" is interesting. Gotten had become obsolete in English usage, but it remained current in American usage. Gotten has re-entered English through American culture. I like it!
I also mean this kindly but I see you everywhere and you’re always fussing about grammar and punctuation. I think you’re probably an older person but please realise we are not in a formal situation where proper English is necessary, people are likely typing on mobile devices where it is very easy to make typos, especially as most people are just seeking some quick advice. In a formal situation, I’m sure they wouldn’t. It would be great if you could just give your advice without pointing out every single grammatical error someone has made on here, it’s 2024 and we’re on The Student Room
Typos are one thing, substantive mistakes are another. You may think that grammar does not matter, but that is not what law schools and law firms think. The law is a field in which linguistic precision is important.
Original post by Stiffy Byng
Typos are one thing, substantive mistakes are another. You may think that grammar does not matter, but that is not what law schools and law firms think. The law is a field in which linguistic precision is important.
I never said grammar doesn’t matter, I said we are not in a situation where it’s of upmost importance. This is not a law firm or a law school. We are not writing perusals or responding to client emails right now, people are just seeking quick advice on an informal student website. It seems you need to learn how context affects the formality of text. I am sure everyone would be more careful in the actual field of law.
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Original post by zee1626
I never said grammar doesn’t matter, I said we are not in a situation where it’s of upmost importance. This is not a law firm or a law school. We are not writing perusals or responding to client emails right now, people are just seeking quick advice on an informal student website. It seems you need to learn how context affects the formality of text. I am sure everyone would be more careful in the actual field of law.
Typos do not matter here.
Typing "the A levels I've picked is..." is not a typo. That is a grammatical error.
"Predicated" could possibly be a product of Auto-correct, but this seems unlikely. Auto-correct tends to offer a word more commonly used than one more rarely used. "Predicted" is a word used more often than "predicated". It appears likely that the OP has mistakenly chosen to use a word which bears a meaning other than that which he or she intended. That is not a typo or a product of typing on a phone while running for a bus.
The OP has obtained a 5 in GCSE English. Suggesting that he or she needs to improve his or her written English if he or she wishes to study or practise law is a reasonable suggestion in the context of the thread.
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Original post by Stiffy Byng
Typos do not matter here.
Typing "the A levels I've picked is..." is not a typo. That is a grammatical error.
"Predicated" could possibly be a product of Auto-correct, but this seems unlikely. Auto-correct tends to offer a word more commonly used than one more rarely used. "Predicted" is a word used more often than "predicated". It appears likely that the OP has mistakenly chosen to use a word which bears a meaning other than that which he or she intended. That is not a typo or a product of typing on a phone while running for a bus.
The OP has obtained a 5 in GCSE English. Suggesting that he or she needs to improve his or her written English if he or she wishes to study or practise law is a reasonable suggestion in the context of the thread.
Typing "the A levels I've picked is..." is not a typo. That is a grammatical error.
"Predicated" could possibly be a product of Auto-correct, but this seems unlikely. Auto-correct tends to offer a word more commonly used than one more rarely used. "Predicted" is a word used more often than "predicated". It appears likely that the OP has mistakenly chosen to use a word which bears a meaning other than that which he or she intended. That is not a typo or a product of typing on a phone while running for a bus.
The OP has obtained a 5 in GCSE English. Suggesting that he or she needs to improve his or her written English if he or she wishes to study or practise law is a reasonable suggestion in the context of the thread.
Once again, the point is that proper grammar doesn’t really matter all that much on social media or sites like TSR, Reddit etc. If OP had made such mistakes on their thesis essay, by all means correct them. But it’s simply redundant to correct such trivial things under the guise of saying ‘proper grammar is important for law’ when we are currently not in a formal law environment. It’s just patronising and makes you seem pretentious.
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It is not patronising to offer realistic advice to people who aim to study or practise law. You appear to miss the point that typos and informality in language are distinct from evident mistakes in grammar, such as using a singular verb form in connection with a plural noun form. You have also disregarded the point about how Auto-correct works. Auto-correct is a famously dumb bit of software which looks for words in more general usage and rarely opts for a word not widely used.
It is no bad thing to obtain good habits early when aiming high. I invite you to look at the posts made here by those who have recently obtained places or are currently studying at the UK's leading universities. They tend to be written in clear and correct English.
It is no bad thing to obtain good habits early when aiming high. I invite you to look at the posts made here by those who have recently obtained places or are currently studying at the UK's leading universities. They tend to be written in clear and correct English.
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Original post by Stiffy Byng
Please take this kindly, but you may need to work a bit on your English. In the passage above, you should have written "predicted", not "predicated". Also, you should have written "the A levels I've picked are...". I shall not mention the two apostrophe errors, because this is social media, where apostrophes go in fear of their lives.
If you are to study law or to practise law you will have to do much a fair bit better in your A levels and at university. This is possible. Not everyone shines at sixteen. It's not uncommon for people to fluff their GCSEs and later do well academically and/or professionally; so don't be downhearted.
PS: "Gotten" is interesting. Gotten had become obsolete in English usage, but it remained current in American usage. Gotten has re-entered English through American culture. I like it!
If you are to study law or to practise law you will have to do much a fair bit better in your A levels and at university. This is possible. Not everyone shines at sixteen. It's not uncommon for people to fluff their GCSEs and later do well academically and/or professionally; so don't be downhearted.
PS: "Gotten" is interesting. Gotten had become obsolete in English usage, but it remained current in American usage. Gotten has re-entered English through American culture. I like it!
'Gotten' is an abomination - I'm shocked you approve.
Btw, why not PM your criticism of the OP's post? It would have been kinder.
Original post by Muttley79
'Gotten' is an abomination - I'm shocked you approve.
Btw, why not PM your criticism of the OP's post? It would have been kinder.
Btw, why not PM your criticism of the OP's post? It would have been kinder.
I think that gotten is better than got. Gotten was standard in seventeenth century English, and it stayed in use in America but fell out of use in the UK before returning via TV and the internet. We still say ill-gotten gains, and begotten, so why not gotten? "I used to go nuts about Americanisms, but I have gotten over them" is, I think, better that "I used to go nuts about Americanisms, but I have got over them."
Helping people improve their written English isn't unkind. Pointing out mistakes does not infer any adverse judgment on a person. Not every school teaches English well. Standards of written English on this forum are not great. I don't blame students. I blame the bonkers educational policies of Neoliberalism. It sometimes appears that 99.8% of posters here can't spell Russell Group, despite 99.9% of posters being (apparently) obsessed with the Russell Group.
Original post by Stiffy Byng
I think that gotten is better than got. Gotten was standard in seventeenth century English, and it stayed in use in America but fell out of use in the UK before returning via TV and the internet. We still say ill-gotten gains, and begotten, so why not gotten? "I used to go nuts about Americanisms, but I have gotten over them" is, I think, better that "I used to go nuts about Americanisms, but I have got over them."
Helping people improve their written English isn't unkind. Pointing out mistakes does not infer any adverse judgment on a person. Not every school teaches English well. Standards of written English on this forum are not great. I don't blame students. I blame the bonkers educational policies of Neoliberalism. It sometimes appears that 99.8% of posters here can't spell Russell Group, despite 99.9% of posters being (apparently) obsessed with the Russell Group.
Helping people improve their written English isn't unkind. Pointing out mistakes does not infer any adverse judgment on a person. Not every school teaches English well. Standards of written English on this forum are not great. I don't blame students. I blame the bonkers educational policies of Neoliberalism. It sometimes appears that 99.8% of posters here can't spell Russell Group, despite 99.9% of posters being (apparently) obsessed with the Russell Group.
It's unkind to do it by posting - a PM would be so much better. It's like me reading out marks in class - totally unnecessary.
Gotten is such an ugly word and I would expect someone who goes on and on about correct English to avoid Americanisms - especialy someone soooo active on Oxford threads.
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Original post by username6882881
You do assume a lot of things. A badly typed predicted can easily autocorrect to predicated.
Once again, the point is that proper grammar doesn’t really matter all that much on social media or sites like TSR, Reddit etc. If OP had made such mistakes on their thesis essay, by all means correct them. But it’s simply redundant to correct such trivial things under the guise of saying ‘proper grammar is important for law’ when we are currently not in a formal law environment. It’s just patronising and makes you seem pretentious.
Once again, the point is that proper grammar doesn’t really matter all that much on social media or sites like TSR, Reddit etc. If OP had made such mistakes on their thesis essay, by all means correct them. But it’s simply redundant to correct such trivial things under the guise of saying ‘proper grammar is important for law’ when we are currently not in a formal law environment. It’s just patronising and makes you seem pretentious.
Totally agree ...
Original post by username7124322
I've gotten all 5's in my gcses results even though i was predicated higher . i was wondering if i can still go to law school . The alevels I've picked is Psychology, Sociology and Geography. I do plan on retaking English and Maths and maybe Combined science. Is it still possible for me to study law once im done?
. i was wondering if i can still go to law school . The alevels I've picked is Psychology, Sociology and Geography. I do plan on retaking English and Maths and maybe Combined science. Is it still possible for me to study law once im done?honestly gcses are not deep. I got an average grade of 6.7 , and thought THAT wasn't enough, but it is. 99% of unis ask for basic passes (grade 4) for eng and maths so you're all good. lock in for a levels,,, thats where it actually matters. however, GOOD JOB!!!!
Original post by username7124322
I've gotten all 5's in my gcses results even though i was predicated higher . i was wondering if i can still go to law school . The alevels I've picked is Psychology, Sociology and Geography. I do plan on retaking English and Maths and maybe Combined science. Is it still possible for me to study law once im done?
. i was wondering if i can still go to law school . The alevels I've picked is Psychology, Sociology and Geography. I do plan on retaking English and Maths and maybe Combined science. Is it still possible for me to study law once im done?OP, are you saying you are going to resit English, maths AND combined science GCSEs while sitting your A-levels? If so then don’t, you passed them albeit not at high grades. You will not be able to focus on your A-levels while resitting all those and will likely not do well.
IMO it’s an either/or here. I’d personally leave the GCSEs behind. Focus on the A-levels.
I think there’s a general misconception that A-levels are easier because you are only sitting 3 (or 4). That is not the case, they are difficult and a big step up from GCSE. You are required to cover heavy content and do a lot of self study in order to get A/A*.
With someone with your GCSE profile I would concentrate on getting stellar A-level grades to make up for the GCSEs. It can be done but will take a lot of work and focus. Has your college/sixth form not given you any guidance?
Re studying law. It isn’t impossible, but you probably will be out of the running for the very top universities due to your GCSEs. Some just want passes in English & Maths, so you’d need to research that on their websites. Do well in your A-level mocks and then reevaluate.
Original post by Muttley79
It's unkind to do it by posting - a PM would be so much better. It's like me reading out marks in class - totally unnecessary.
Gotten is such an ugly word and I would expect someone who goes on and on about correct English to avoid Americanisms - especialy someone soooo active on Oxford threads.
Gotten is such an ugly word and I would expect someone who goes on and on about correct English to avoid Americanisms - especialy someone soooo active on Oxford threads.
I do not use the word gotten, but I don't object to its use. English usage has recently reinstated the word gotten as a result of familiarity with American usage. The word had been obsolete in the UK for some centuries, but has recently been re-imported. Many Americanisms are representations of seventeenth and eighteenth century English.
Original post by Stiffy Byng
I do not use the word gotten, but I don't object to its use. English usage has recently reinstated the word gotten as a result of familiarity with American usage. The word had been obsolete in the UK for some centuries, but has recently been re-imported. Many Americanisms are representations of seventeenth and eighteenth century English.
You should object to its use - it has no place in modern English.
Original post by Muttley79
You should object to its use - it has no place in modern English.
I prefer to think for myself. I left school many years ago, and I don't follow orders from anyone except Judges. The English language is a living thing, and it doesn't follow orders either
Original post by Stiffy Byng
I prefer to think for myself. I left school many years ago, and I don't follow orders from anyone except Judges. The English language is a living thing, and it doesn't follow orders either
So you don't obey the Police or traffic instructions?!!!! Wow -
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