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Better To Start in January?

Not too long ago I decided that I should go to university, but I did not know what course I'd want to do or where. At that point I hadn't completed my UCAS application as I did not have my A-Level certificates from my time in the sixth form, which ended two years ago. When I got them a little while ago I filled in the information on UCAS as well as the results from my college course. Despite my poor performance in two of the courses I did in the sixth form, I am in a good position with my UCAS points as the courses I did well in more than make up for the lost points. In that regard I am probably able to go to most courses on offer, but I am still not sure what I should do. I have spent a lot of my life acting and doing acting courses, so it would be the obvious option. My cousin, however, did acting at university and it was a massive waste of time and the amount of acting roles he's had in the past twenty years can be counted on my hands despite him going to hundreds of auditions. I haven't gone to that many auditions, but I haven't had any luck even though I am a good actor. Finally, my teachers at college have told me that university acting courses are not respected anywhere near as much as drama school, and from what they've told me about drama school they sound like hell on earth, and therefore they are absolutely out of the question.

So while I'm indecisive and genuinely considering going into clearing for literally any course, I'm wondering if it would be better to go into a course that starts in January rather than next month. There are certain advantages to doing that:

I only decided to go to university after the deadline, and have genuinely no idea what I'm doing since I have been staunchly against going for the past few years. Waiting would give me more time to figure it all out.

I am in a position where if I was to go to university next month I'd need to take out a student loan, but within the next few months I will have the money to pay the fees outright, thus avoiding any debt.

Even if I was set on one course that I could start in September I have no idea if it's even possible for me to apply for student finance and accommodation in time.


That said, I have some concerns. I don't know much about these later start courses - is there a catch to starting in January?
Original post by Doomotron
Not too long ago I decided that I should go to university, but I did not know what course I'd want to do or where. At that point I hadn't completed my UCAS application as I did not have my A-Level certificates from my time in the sixth form, which ended two years ago. When I got them a little while ago I filled in the information on UCAS as well as the results from my college course. Despite my poor performance in two of the courses I did in the sixth form, I am in a good position with my UCAS points as the courses I did well in more than make up for the lost points. In that regard I am probably able to go to most courses on offer, but I am still not sure what I should do. I have spent a lot of my life acting and doing acting courses, so it would be the obvious option. My cousin, however, did acting at university and it was a massive waste of time and the amount of acting roles he's had in the past twenty years can be counted on my hands despite him going to hundreds of auditions. I haven't gone to that many auditions, but I haven't had any luck even though I am a good actor. Finally, my teachers at college have told me that university acting courses are not respected anywhere near as much as drama school, and from what they've told me about drama school they sound like hell on earth, and therefore they are absolutely out of the question.
So while I'm indecisive and genuinely considering going into clearing for literally any course, I'm wondering if it would be better to go into a course that starts in January rather than next month. There are certain advantages to doing that:

I only decided to go to university after the deadline, and have genuinely no idea what I'm doing since I have been staunchly against going for the past few years. Waiting would give me more time to figure it all out.

I am in a position where if I was to go to university next month I'd need to take out a student loan, but within the next few months I will have the money to pay the fees outright, thus avoiding any debt.

Even if I was set on one course that I could start in September I have no idea if it's even possible for me to apply for student finance and accommodation in time.


That said, I have some concerns. I don't know much about these later start courses - is there a catch to starting in January?

So what do you specifically want to do after uni?

If it's in acting, you know very well that you don't need any qualifications to go into acting.

I would advise against doing any degree for the sake of having a degree. If you are not studying a subject because you love the subject, you intend to go into academic research in the subject, or the specific degree you're applying for is legally required for the role that you want to work in (e.g. medicine, nursing, architecture), then I don't recommend going to university.

If you do have a career in mind, then what is the career? If you are passionate about a subject, what are you passionate about? Also, what specific qualifications did you do at college?
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Original post by MindMax2000
So what do you specifically want to do after uni?
If it's in acting, you know very well that you don't need any qualifications to go into acting.
I would advise against doing any degree for the sake of having a degree. If you are not studying a subject because you love the subject, you intend to go into academic research in the subject, or the specific degree you're applying for is legally required for the role that you want to work in (e.g. medicine, nursing, architecture), then I don't recommend going to university.
If you do have a career in mind, then what is the career? If you are passionate about a subject, what are you passionate about? Also, what specific qualifications did you do at college?

I have no idea of what I want to do in life. Well, I do, but the dreams I have are extremely aspirational and unobtainable for at least twenty years or so. I have looked at jobs but the area I live in has virtually nothing going on - there aren't even any low-level office jobs from what I've seen. To simplify a complicated situation for the sake of brevity, my family does not have the money for me to take driving lessons and buy a car at the moment, so driving somewhere else for work is out of the question. That may change within the next few months, but there are no guarantees with that.

I am passionate about acting and things related to it - long term, I'd like to direct a film or write/create one. As I said in my original post, doing a course in that is not really a good idea, but there are no other subjects that I'm interested in. The reason I want to go to university, other than having a degree, is to get out of the house and effectively restart my life as it were. At this point in time I have two friends, one of whom lives in Spain and the other is going to university so I won't see him very much, and I ruined my friendships in one way or another with pretty much everyone else. I'd like to be in a different environment, to put it simply.
Original post by Doomotron
I have no idea of what I want to do in life. Well, I do, but the dreams I have are extremely aspirational and unobtainable for at least twenty years or so. I have looked at jobs but the area I live in has virtually nothing going on - there aren't even any low-level office jobs from what I've seen. To simplify a complicated situation for the sake of brevity, my family does not have the money for me to take driving lessons and buy a car at the moment, so driving somewhere else for work is out of the question. That may change within the next few months, but there are no guarantees with that.
I am passionate about acting and things related to it - long term, I'd like to direct a film or write/create one. As I said in my original post, doing a course in that is not really a good idea, but there are no other subjects that I'm interested in. The reason I want to go to university, other than having a degree, is to get out of the house and effectively restart my life as it were. At this point in time I have two friends, one of whom lives in Spain and the other is going to university so I won't see him very much, and I ruined my friendships in one way or another with pretty much everyone else. I'd like to be in a different environment, to put it simply.

my family does not have the money for me to take driving lessons and buy a car at the moment, so driving somewhere else for work is out of the question
It's probably the problem I would tackle first. Makes more sense to get a car and learn to drive for a few thousand pounds than to spend at least £27k on a degree that might not end up getting you a job.

The reason I want to go to university, other than having a degree, is to get out of the house and effectively restart my life as it were.
There are only a handful of degrees that are either legally required to helps with specific careers (e.g. healthcare, education, architecture, law, engineering). Of course, if you have no interest in those careers, then doing a degree in the related subject is rather pointless.
Most other careers you can more or less do with the qualifications that you have now (there are about 600 different careers to go into with passes at A Level).

I'd like to be in a different environment, to put it simply.
Moving to a different location would probably make more sense than just doing a degree at a uni at a different location. My go to tool for this is spareroom.com. However, I would recommend getting a driving licence and ideally a car before you do this.

Instead, have you looked into professional qualifications? I wouldn't recommend doing anything above the equivalent of NVQ Level 3 until the ELQ policy supposedly expires in 2025 - you would have problems getting student funding otherwise.

Having said that, even if you do get a degree or professional qualification if there are no jobs in your local area (and you can't relocate/travel), then you would still be in the same situation as you are now.
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Original post by MindMax2000
my family does not have the money for me to take driving lessons and buy a car at the moment, so driving somewhere else for work is out of the question
It's probably the problem I would tackle first. Makes more sense to get a car and learn to drive for a few thousand pounds than to spend at least £27k on a degree that might not end up getting you a job.
The reason I want to go to university, other than having a degree, is to get out of the house and effectively restart my life as it were.
There are only a handful of degrees that are either legally required to helps with specific careers (e.g. healthcare, education, architecture, law, engineering). Of course, if you have no interest in those careers, then doing a degree in the related subject is rather pointless.
Most other careers you can more or less do with the qualifications that you have now (there are about 600 different careers to go into with passes at A Level).
I'd like to be in a different environment, to put it simply.
Moving to a different location would probably make more sense than just doing a degree at a uni at a different location. My go to tool for this is spareroom.com. However, I would recommend getting a driving licence and ideally a car before you do this.
Instead, have you looked into professional qualifications? I wouldn't recommend doing anything above the equivalent of NVQ Level 3 until the ELQ policy supposedly expires in 2025 - you would have problems getting student funding otherwise.
Having said that, even if you do get a degree or professional qualification if there are no jobs in your local area (and you can't relocate/travel), then you would still be in the same situation as you are now.

One thing I forgot to mention was what I got at college and in the sixth form. In the sixth form I got a distinction star in psychology, a C in art, a D in photography, and a B in my extended project. At college I got a distinction in performing arts - that course was the equivalent of three A-levels.

But to get to what you were saying, my mother has two trains of thought when it comes to university. She says that I should either do acting because I'm good at it, or I should do something that I'll be able to make a lot of money from.

Something I'd like to do is start my own business, but as I mentioned with my silly dreams, most of them would require millions in funding to get off the ground, as most of them are to do with transportation - those including (but are not limited to) starting a low-cost ferry operator to profit out of the impending collapse of P&O, starting a rail freight operator to profit off the impending collapse of DB Schenker, and manufacturing cars and other motor vehicles using non-electric alternative fuel sources. As you can tell, any of these are quite out of my league for the time being, and probably forever.

I do have one more business idea which is actually semi-reasonable: to develop a game. I have started an online course for the basics of game development but I'm really struggling with it, so I think that one may be out of the question as well. What I really need is a doable business idea based on something that I know I can do with what I have now and in the near future, rather than some big idea that would take me half my life to fulfil. As to what this idea is, I have no idea.
Reply 5
I don't like bumping threads but I do still want to know about the last question in my OP. If I do start in January, are there any downsides to it?
Original post by Doomotron
One thing I forgot to mention was what I got at college and in the sixth form. In the sixth form I got a distinction star in psychology, a C in art, a D in photography, and a B in my extended project. At college I got a distinction in performing arts - that course was the equivalent of three A-levels.
But to get to what you were saying, my mother has two trains of thought when it comes to university. She says that I should either do acting because I'm good at it, or I should do something that I'll be able to make a lot of money from.
Something I'd like to do is start my own business, but as I mentioned with my silly dreams, most of them would require millions in funding to get off the ground, as most of them are to do with transportation - those including (but are not limited to) starting a low-cost ferry operator to profit out of the impending collapse of P&O, starting a rail freight operator to profit off the impending collapse of DB Schenker, and manufacturing cars and other motor vehicles using non-electric alternative fuel sources. As you can tell, any of these are quite out of my league for the time being, and probably forever.
I do have one more business idea which is actually semi-reasonable: to develop a game. I have started an online course for the basics of game development but I'm really struggling with it, so I think that one may be out of the question as well. What I really need is a doable business idea based on something that I know I can do with what I have now and in the near future, rather than some big idea that would take me half my life to fulfil. As to what this idea is, I have no idea.

I should do something that I'll be able to make a lot of money from
There are probably a wide range of things you can make "a lot of money" from, but they mostly depend on how good you are at it e.g. selling, running a business, investments, IT related. There are some roles where you need specific qualifications for and need years of experience and training, but they are in the minority (and not as easily accessible).

Something I'd like to do is start my own business, but as I mentioned with my silly dreams, most of them would require millions in funding to get off the ground, as most of them are to do with transportation
OK, so maybe a third or fourth business if you do things right and find the right team of people.
I don't think the funding is the main issue as much as getting the right experience and having the right team of people to back you up. If they are large scale businesses, you're looking at 10+ years in any one of these businesses to building them up from scratch. I mean even Tesla wasn't Musk's first business, but if anything he has shown is that it's possible.
Having said that Hilary Devy was known to have started a a palletised freight network from scratch (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hilary_Devey). She is an inspiration for anyone who intends to go into the transportation business.

I have started an online course for the basics of game development but I'm really struggling with it, so I think that one may be out of the question as well.
Is this specific to the programming or the digital art? If you are programming, which engine are you using? If you're not using an engine or using assets, then what programming language are you learning?
Have you considered using freelancers for some aspects of the game, since game development isn't usually easy and isn't usually a one-man game?

What I really need is a doable business idea based on something that I know I can do with what I have now and in the near future, rather than some big idea that would take me half my life to fulfil. As to what this idea is, I have no idea.
Should we start with building on specific business skills that would serve you irrespective of which business you decide to go into or whichever business client you intend to take on? If this sounds good for you, then have you considered learning about digital marketing? You can sometimes charge decent amounts for it as well as help you scale your business; this is assuming you learn from the right people.
Otherwise, I would recommend learning about sales, which is another essential skill to help with developing business.

If you still want a business idea of some sort, the sort of thing that I recommend looking into is something with high margins and in demand without needing to sell too hard. So if I was in your position I would consider things like property, AI, HR, and IT (if you're fine with the technicals). (I'm of course not giving any business advice, and you should do your own due diligence prior to going into it.)
Otherwise, you can use the sales and marketing skills in pretty much in any industry that you want.
Original post by Doomotron
I don't like bumping threads but I do still want to know about the last question in my OP. If I do start in January, are there any downsides to it?

Potential downsides that I could think of include:

You might have to wait longer to go to your graduation ceremony - depending on the individual uni and their schedule

There are fewer courses that start in January than in September/October.

Original post by Doomotron
I don't like bumping threads but I do still want to know about the last question in my OP. If I do start in January, are there any downsides to it?

Very few degrees start in January.
Usually only Nursing.

What are you hoping to study.
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Original post by McGinger
Very few degrees start in January.
Usually only Nursing.
What are you hoping to study.


No idea, literally anything.
Some possible degree ideas - none of these start in January - as above, that's practically unknown in the UK - but they are theatre-type courses that might appeal to you and have a better employment record than acting :
BA (Hons) Film & Television Production - Bristol Old Vic Theatre School
BA (Hons) Stage Management - Bristol Old Vic Theatre School
Theatre, Festival and Event Production BA (Hons) Bath Spa University
BA (Hons) Arts Management | Goldsmiths, University of London
etc
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Original post by McGinger
Some possible degree ideas - none of these start in January - as above, that's practically unknown in the UK - but they are theatre-type courses that might appeal to you and have a better employment record than acting :
BA (Hons) Film & Television Production - Bristol Old Vic Theatre School
BA (Hons) Stage Management - Bristol Old Vic Theatre School
Theatre, Festival and Event Production BA (Hons) Bath Spa University
BA (Hons) Arts Management | Goldsmiths, University of London
etc

Thanks for sending those, I'll have a look.

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