Can you get into a University with just a BTEC and an EPQ?
I was just wondering if that is possible. I am a bit concerned with my lack of options here to be able to be accepted to a university. I have other A levels I can pick or avaiable for me but I am not sure because I don't like or really need them. However, I still don't want to risk it because a BTEC is considered to be 2 A levels and an EPQ is an AS Level. What can I do moving forward?
Original post by Anonymous
I was just wondering if that is possible. I am a bit concerned with my lack of options here to be able to be accepted to a university. I have other A levels I can pick or avaiable for me but I am not sure because I don't like or really need them. However, I still don't want to risk it because a BTEC is considered to be 2 A levels and an EPQ is an AS Level. What can I do moving forward?
It is incorrect to say that "a BTEC is considered to be 2 A levels", as they come in different sizes. Assuming we're talking about Level 3 BTECs, then:
• An Extended Certificate is the equivalent of 1 A level.
• A Foundation Diploma is the equivalent of 1.5 A levels.
• A Diploma is the equivalent of 2 A levels.
• An Extended Diploma is the equivalent of 3 A levels.
What size BTEC are you doing? Your answer is fundamental to the question, "Can you get into a University with just a BTEC and an EPQ?"
Original post by DataVenia
It is incorrect to say that "a BTEC is considered to be 2 A levels", as they come in different sizes. Assuming we're talking about Level 3 BTECs, then:
• An Extended Certificate is the equivalent of 1 A level.
• A Foundation Diploma is the equivalent of 1.5 A levels.
• A Diploma is the equivalent of 2 A levels.
• An Extended Diploma is the equivalent of 3 A levels.
What size BTEC are you doing? Your answer is fundamental to the question, "Can you get into a University with just a BTEC and an EPQ?"
• An Extended Certificate is the equivalent of 1 A level.
• A Foundation Diploma is the equivalent of 1.5 A levels.
• A Diploma is the equivalent of 2 A levels.
• An Extended Diploma is the equivalent of 3 A levels.
What size BTEC are you doing? Your answer is fundamental to the question, "Can you get into a University with just a BTEC and an EPQ?"
I do BTEC Enterprise International Level 3.
Original post by Anonymous
I do BTEC Enterprise International Level 3.
Thank you.
In exactly the same way that the Pearson BTEC National Level 3 qualifications comes in various sizes (denoted by words like "Extended Certificate", "Foundation Diploma", etc. as mentioned above), so do the Pearson BTEC International Level 3 qualifications.
So if we're talking about a Pearson BTEC International Level 3 qualification in Enterprise and Entrepreneurship (which I suspect is what you're referring to), Pearson offer the following:
• Pearson BTEC International Level 3 Certificate in Enterprise and Entrepreneurship
• Pearson BTEC International Level 3 Subsidiary Diploma in Enterprise and Entrepreneurship
• Pearson BTEC International Level 3 Foundation Diploma in Enterprise and Entrepreneurship
• Pearson BTEC International Level 3 Diploma in Enterprise and Entrepreneurship
• Pearson BTEC International Level 3 Extended Diploma in Enterprise and Entrepreneurship
Do you know which of these you're studying? (The specification covering this set of qualifications can be found here on the Pearson web site, in case that helps.)
Original post by DataVenia
Thank you.
In exactly the same way that the Pearson BTEC National Level 3 qualifications comes in various sizes (denoted by words like "Extended Certificate", "Foundation Diploma", etc. as mentioned above), so do the Pearson BTEC International Level 3 qualifications.
So if we're talking about a Pearson BTEC International Level 3 qualification in Enterprise and Entrepreneurship (which I suspect is what you're referring to), Pearson offer the following:
• Pearson BTEC International Level 3 Certificate in Enterprise and Entrepreneurship
• Pearson BTEC International Level 3 Subsidiary Diploma in Enterprise and Entrepreneurship
• Pearson BTEC International Level 3 Foundation Diploma in Enterprise and Entrepreneurship
• Pearson BTEC International Level 3 Diploma in Enterprise and Entrepreneurship
• Pearson BTEC International Level 3 Extended Diploma in Enterprise and Entrepreneurship
Do you know which of these you're studying? (The specification covering this set of qualifications can be found here on the Pearson web site, in case that helps.)
In exactly the same way that the Pearson BTEC National Level 3 qualifications comes in various sizes (denoted by words like "Extended Certificate", "Foundation Diploma", etc. as mentioned above), so do the Pearson BTEC International Level 3 qualifications.
So if we're talking about a Pearson BTEC International Level 3 qualification in Enterprise and Entrepreneurship (which I suspect is what you're referring to), Pearson offer the following:
• Pearson BTEC International Level 3 Certificate in Enterprise and Entrepreneurship
• Pearson BTEC International Level 3 Subsidiary Diploma in Enterprise and Entrepreneurship
• Pearson BTEC International Level 3 Foundation Diploma in Enterprise and Entrepreneurship
• Pearson BTEC International Level 3 Diploma in Enterprise and Entrepreneurship
• Pearson BTEC International Level 3 Extended Diploma in Enterprise and Entrepreneurship
Do you know which of these you're studying? (The specification covering this set of qualifications can be found here on the Pearson web site, in case that helps.)
The Pearson BTEC International Level 3 Diploma in Enterprise and Entrepreneurship (720 GLH) is what I'm currently studying in. I finished units 2, 3, 33, and 37 last year. I'll be working on units 7, 34, 35, and 36 this year. Since my school just started offering the BTEC course, progress has been a little slower but we are definetly going to finish all the units off by the end of the year.
My school just offered BTEC this year and I do Pearson BTEC International Level 3 Diploma in Enterprise and Entrepreneurship (720 GLH). Last year we did units : 2, 3, 33 and 37 and I have completed all of them (I was told I could get more than a pass). This year we are now going to do units : 7, 34, 35 and 36
i don't know if I sent this twice , sorry in advance.
i don't know if I sent this twice , sorry in advance.
I meant the school offered btec LAST YEAR , sorry.
Original post by Anonymous
My school just offered BTEC this year and I do Pearson BTEC International Level 3 Diploma in Enterprise and Entrepreneurship (720 GLH). Last year we did units : 2, 3, 33 and 37 and I have completed all of them (I was told I could get more than a pass). This year we are now going to do units : 7, 34, 35 and 36
i don't know if I sent this twice , sorry in advance.
i don't know if I sent this twice , sorry in advance.
Perfect. Knowing exactly what BTEC you're doing avoid the risk of giving misleading advice. So although your original statement that "a BTEC is considered to be 2 A levels" was incorrect, it is correct to say that this particular BTEC is the equivalent of 2 International A levels.
Most universities in the UK base their entry requirement on assumption that candidates will have done three A levels, so gaining entry to university with the equivalent of just 2 will be a challenge. With the equivalent of just 2 A levels and your EPQ, your options will be limited. You've said above that "I was told I could get more than a pass", which isn't very specific in terms of grades! Do you not have any better idea of what grade you achieved in each unit? If we assume that "more than a pass" means a merit - i.e. that you gain a merit in each unit - then your overall grade for the qualification would be MM. That's worth 64 UCAS points. You EPQ could bring-in an additional 16 points (for a grade C) or 20 points (for a grade B). So let's assume you're on a total of 80 UCAS points.
If we search for UK universities which will accept 80 UCAS points for a business- or entrepreneurship-related degree, we find these (for example):
• Business Management BA (Hons) at Birmingham City University - they want 112 UCAS points normally, but this course is still in Clearing for this year where they say they'll accept just 64 UCAS points. (details)
• Entrepreneurship and Business with Foundation Year BA (Hons) at University of Portsmouth - they want just 32 UCAS points (the three-year "normal" version of this course requires 112-120 UCAS points). (details)
• Business and Management (Entrepreneurship) BA (Hons) via a Foundation Year at Cardiff Metropolitan University - they want just 32 UCAS points (again, three-year "normal" version of this course requires 112 UCAS points). (details)
So, if you were to achieve 80 UCAS points you'd be applying to weaker universities, and would be forced to add a foundation year to the start of the course or to apply via Clearing. If that doesn't really appeal, then you have three choices:
• Get better grades than I guessed you might get above. Your BTEC can generate 180 UCAS points for a D*D*, and the EPQ can generate 28 points for an A*. Between the two of them, that's 140 UCAS points. For comparison, AAB at A level would be 136 points and AAA would be 144. You'd still be limited to universities will set their entry requirements based upon UCAS points, but you'd have far more options that with just 80 points.
• Take an A level alongside the second year of your BTEC. This won't be easy, but would mean that you would not be limited to those universities which accept UCAS points, as many universities are happy to accept a BTEC Level 3 Diploma (the equivalent of 2 A levels) if taken alongside an additional A level.
• Add an extra year to your BTEC, and thereby take the additional five units required to gain a Pearson BTEC International Level 3 Extended Diploma in Enterprise and Entrepreneurship. That's the equivalent of 3 A levels.
By the way, I can confirm that the mandatory units for the Pearson BTEC International Level 3 Diploma in Enterprise and Entrepreneurship (720 GLH) are: 2, 3, 7, 33, 34, 35 and 37 - which you've either already taken or will be taking in the forthcoming year. You are also required to take one of a set of optional units, one of which is 36. So you units are all good.
Original post by DataVenia
Perfect. Knowing exactly what BTEC you're doing avoid the risk of giving misleading advice. So although your original statement that "a BTEC is considered to be 2 A levels" was incorrect, it is correct to say that this particular BTEC is the equivalent of 2 International A levels.
Most universities in the UK base their entry requirement on assumption that candidates will have done three A levels, so gaining entry to university with the equivalent of just 2 will be a challenge. With the equivalent of just 2 A levels and your EPQ, your options will be limited. You've said above that "I was told I could get more than a pass", which isn't very specific in terms of grades! Do you not have any better idea of what grade you achieved in each unit? If we assume that "more than a pass" means a merit - i.e. that you gain a merit in each unit - then your overall grade for the qualification would be MM. That's worth 64 UCAS points. You EPQ could bring-in an additional 16 points (for a grade C) or 20 points (for a grade B). So let's assume you're on a total of 80 UCAS points.
If we search for UK universities which will accept 80 UCAS points for a business- or entrepreneurship-related degree, we find these (for example):
• Business Management BA (Hons) at Birmingham City University - they want 112 UCAS points normally, but this course is still in Clearing for this year where they say they'll accept just 64 UCAS points. (details)
• Entrepreneurship and Business with Foundation Year BA (Hons) at University of Portsmouth - they want just 32 UCAS points (the three-year "normal" version of this course requires 112-120 UCAS points). (details)
• Business and Management (Entrepreneurship) BA (Hons) via a Foundation Year at Cardiff Metropolitan University - they want just 32 UCAS points (again, three-year "normal" version of this course requires 112 UCAS points). (details)
So, if you were to achieve 80 UCAS points you'd be applying to weaker universities, and would be forced to add a foundation year to the start of the course or to apply via Clearing. If that doesn't really appeal, then you have three choices:
• Get better grades than I guessed you might get above. Your BTEC can generate 180 UCAS points for a D*D*, and the EPQ can generate 28 points for an A*. Between the two of them, that's 140 UCAS points. For comparison, AAB at A level would be 136 points and AAA would be 144. You'd still be limited to universities will set their entry requirements based upon UCAS points, but you'd have far more options that with just 80 points.
• Take an A level alongside the second year of your BTEC. This won't be easy, but would mean that you would not be limited to those universities which accept UCAS points, as many universities are happy to accept a BTEC Level 3 Diploma (the equivalent of 2 A levels) if taken alongside an additional A level.
• Add an extra year to your BTEC, and thereby take the additional five units required to gain a Pearson BTEC International Level 3 Extended Diploma in Enterprise and Entrepreneurship. That's the equivalent of 3 A levels.
By the way, I can confirm that the mandatory units for the Pearson BTEC International Level 3 Diploma in Enterprise and Entrepreneurship (720 GLH) are: 2, 3, 7, 33, 34, 35 and 37 - which you've either already taken or will be taking in the forthcoming year. You are also required to take one of a set of optional units, one of which is 36. So you units are all good.
Most universities in the UK base their entry requirement on assumption that candidates will have done three A levels, so gaining entry to university with the equivalent of just 2 will be a challenge. With the equivalent of just 2 A levels and your EPQ, your options will be limited. You've said above that "I was told I could get more than a pass", which isn't very specific in terms of grades! Do you not have any better idea of what grade you achieved in each unit? If we assume that "more than a pass" means a merit - i.e. that you gain a merit in each unit - then your overall grade for the qualification would be MM. That's worth 64 UCAS points. You EPQ could bring-in an additional 16 points (for a grade C) or 20 points (for a grade B). So let's assume you're on a total of 80 UCAS points.
If we search for UK universities which will accept 80 UCAS points for a business- or entrepreneurship-related degree, we find these (for example):
• Business Management BA (Hons) at Birmingham City University - they want 112 UCAS points normally, but this course is still in Clearing for this year where they say they'll accept just 64 UCAS points. (details)
• Entrepreneurship and Business with Foundation Year BA (Hons) at University of Portsmouth - they want just 32 UCAS points (the three-year "normal" version of this course requires 112-120 UCAS points). (details)
• Business and Management (Entrepreneurship) BA (Hons) via a Foundation Year at Cardiff Metropolitan University - they want just 32 UCAS points (again, three-year "normal" version of this course requires 112 UCAS points). (details)
So, if you were to achieve 80 UCAS points you'd be applying to weaker universities, and would be forced to add a foundation year to the start of the course or to apply via Clearing. If that doesn't really appeal, then you have three choices:
• Get better grades than I guessed you might get above. Your BTEC can generate 180 UCAS points for a D*D*, and the EPQ can generate 28 points for an A*. Between the two of them, that's 140 UCAS points. For comparison, AAB at A level would be 136 points and AAA would be 144. You'd still be limited to universities will set their entry requirements based upon UCAS points, but you'd have far more options that with just 80 points.
• Take an A level alongside the second year of your BTEC. This won't be easy, but would mean that you would not be limited to those universities which accept UCAS points, as many universities are happy to accept a BTEC Level 3 Diploma (the equivalent of 2 A levels) if taken alongside an additional A level.
• Add an extra year to your BTEC, and thereby take the additional five units required to gain a Pearson BTEC International Level 3 Extended Diploma in Enterprise and Entrepreneurship. That's the equivalent of 3 A levels.
By the way, I can confirm that the mandatory units for the Pearson BTEC International Level 3 Diploma in Enterprise and Entrepreneurship (720 GLH) are: 2, 3, 7, 33, 34, 35 and 37 - which you've either already taken or will be taking in the forthcoming year. You are also required to take one of a set of optional units, one of which is 36. So you units are all good.
I appreciate the options you gave me, and after giving it some thought, I've chosen to go after both my second year of my BTEC and an A level. I am aware that this may be difficult, but I hope to have more options when applying to universities because many of them will accept a BTEC Level 3 Diploma, which is the same as two A levels when taken in addition to an additional A level.
My teachers and I have talked before about taking an AS English course, and they are currently trying to figure out how to fit it into my schedule. I will decide between AS English Language and AS English Literature over the weekend, though, as I am still not sure which to choose. Also, I'm thinking of taking an additional subject (AS English) to make sure I'm not restricted by UCAS points in addition to my BTEC and EPQ. I am actively looking at universities that accept BTEC qualifications because I prefer not to study in the UK, if it's possible.
For now, I plan to continue with my BTEC and EPQ and hope that the AS English course can be arranged, which would provide me with the equivalent of three A levels.
Does this idea seem like a sensible path to go?
Original post by Anonymous
I appreciate the options you gave me, and after giving it some thought, I've chosen to go after both my second year of my BTEC and an A level. I am aware that this may be difficult, but I hope to have more options when applying to universities because many of them will accept a BTEC Level 3 Diploma, which is the same as two A levels when taken in addition to an additional A level.
My teachers and I have talked before about taking an AS English course, and they are currently trying to figure out how to fit it into my schedule. I will decide between AS English Language and AS English Literature over the weekend, though, as I am still not sure which to choose. Also, I'm thinking of taking an additional subject (AS English) to make sure I'm not restricted by UCAS points in addition to my BTEC and EPQ. I am actively looking at universities that accept BTEC qualifications because I prefer not to study in the UK, if it's possible.
For now, I plan to continue with my BTEC and EPQ and hope that the AS English course can be arranged, which would provide me with the equivalent of three A levels.
Does this idea seem like a sensible path to go?
My teachers and I have talked before about taking an AS English course, and they are currently trying to figure out how to fit it into my schedule. I will decide between AS English Language and AS English Literature over the weekend, though, as I am still not sure which to choose. Also, I'm thinking of taking an additional subject (AS English) to make sure I'm not restricted by UCAS points in addition to my BTEC and EPQ. I am actively looking at universities that accept BTEC qualifications because I prefer not to study in the UK, if it's possible.
For now, I plan to continue with my BTEC and EPQ and hope that the AS English course can be arranged, which would provide me with the equivalent of three A levels.
Does this idea seem like a sensible path to go?
You say, "I am actively looking at universities that accept BTEC qualifications because I prefer not to study in the UK, if it's possible." I know nothing about non-UK universities, I'm afraid, and their entry requirements.
For UK-based universities, your BTEC Level 3 Diploma plus EPQ plus AS level English approach will still leave you limited to those universities which set their entry requirements in terms of UCAS points. For those which say things like "Applicants offering a BTEC National Diploma must obtain a minimum of Distinction, Distinction having studied this qualification alongside one academic A Level at grade A" (randomly taken from the University of Leeds web site), your qualifications will not meet the requirement. This is because an EPQ and an AS level is not an A level. It's equivalent to an A level, in terms of UCAS points, but that's not the same thing. Hence you'd be looking for universities which are happy with UCAS points (or which specifically state that they accept the particular combination of qualification you'll have).
But, as I say, if you "prefer not to study in the UK", then I'm not really the best person to advise you as to the correct path to take.
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