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Further Maths for engineering

Hey i’m in a bit of dilemma and i need a bit of help. I am starting sixth form next week and i want to pursue something to do with engineering/cs/robotics/AI but my desired sixth form (The NCS) didn’t allow me to enroll with further maths as i got a grade 8 (few marks off 9) and i am now doing physics,chem,maths,econ. I can either go to another normal sixth form (avg grade B-C) but do further maths or go to a good sixth form but compromise on further maths.

How disadvantaged would i be for top unis such as oxbridge and US if i don’t choose further maths?
To my understanding, the disadvantage would be significant, as a lot of applicants will have further maths on their applications and will therefore likely be favoured. Plus its usually best to prioritise subject choices over schools.
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Original post by ConfusedPenguin1
To my understanding, the disadvantage would be significant, as a lot of applicants will have further maths on their applications and will therefore likely be favoured. Plus its usually best to prioritise subject choices over schools.


yeah thanks i’m going to prioritise further maths
Original post by trxzy
yeah thanks i’m going to prioritise further maths

No problem, best of luck
Original post by trxzy
Hey i’m in a bit of dilemma and i need a bit of help. I am starting sixth form next week and i want to pursue something to do with engineering/cs/robotics/AI but my desired sixth form (The NCS) didn’t allow me to enroll with further maths as i got a grade 8 (few marks off 9) and i am now doing physics,chem,maths,econ. I can either go to another normal sixth form (avg grade B-C) but do further maths or go to a good sixth form but compromise on further maths.
How disadvantaged would i be for top unis such as oxbridge and US if i don’t choose further maths?

honestly one of my biggest regrets is not doing further maths for engineering and I'm going into Yr13 which has not really limitied my options, but discouraged me from applying to oxbridge

try your best to convince your sixth form that you're competent and offer to do a mock "test" to prove your abilities. you need to bother them as much as possible lol. otherwise, if you're deadset on FM for its benefits (stronger oxbridge application), look into surrounding sixth forms that might have space and have a good percentage of grades A*-A in FM
Original post by trxzy
Hey i’m in a bit of dilemma and i need a bit of help. I am starting sixth form next week and i want to pursue something to do with engineering/cs/robotics/AI but my desired sixth form (The NCS) didn’t allow me to enroll with further maths as i got a grade 8 (few marks off 9) and i am now doing physics,chem,maths,econ. I can either go to another normal sixth form (avg grade B-C) but do further maths or go to a good sixth form but compromise on further maths.
How disadvantaged would i be for top unis such as oxbridge and US if i don’t choose further maths?

Hi, a lot of people say stuff like "Oh you must have further maths or your done" whilst applying to top unis, but noone asks for which particular engineering?

Engineering like electronic, electrical, aerospace, at top unis generally "recommend" further maths - in other words you MUST have it, however for engineering such as design, chemical, mechanical (sometimes) Materials and nuclear engineering course at Imperial (just using as an example) dont require it 🙂 so i wouldnt be too stressed about it
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Original post by ConfusedPenguin1
To my understanding, the disadvantage would be significant, as a lot of applicants will have further maths on their applications and will therefore likely be favoured. Plus its usually best to prioritise subject choices over schools.


Tbf my sister got into Oxford engineering with no fm but she was top of a disadvantaged school
Original post by StudyGirlGrammar
Hi, a lot of people say stuff like "Oh you must have further maths or your done" whilst applying to top unis, but noone asks for which particular engineering?
Engineering like electronic, electrical, aerospace, at top unis generally "recommend" further maths - in other words you MUST have it, however for engineering such as design, chemical, mechanical (sometimes) Materials and nuclear engineering course at Imperial (just using as an example) dont require it 🙂 so i wouldnt be too stressed about it

This is true, but the question also included CS and robotics, where further maths is (almost) a necessity, particularly at oxbridge and a lot of other unis. Plus, given that the question only mentioned engineering rather than a specific field, it can be assumed that they either want to pursue general engineering (where further maths is recommended) or they haven't chosen a field yet (in which case not taking further maths would really limit their options).
Original post by ConfusedPenguin1
This is true, but the question also included CS and robotics, where further maths is (almost) a necessity, particularly at oxbridge and a lot of other unis. Plus, given that the question only mentioned engineering rather than a specific field, it can be assumed that they either want to pursue general engineering (where further maths is recommended) or they haven't chosen a field yet (in which case not taking further maths would really limit their options).


Yes i agree, for CS, robotics if you dont have further maths you will struggle, as these degrees and courses are becoming even more and more competitive these days.
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Original post by continualcorsag
honestly one of my biggest regrets is not doing further maths for engineering and I'm going into Yr13 which has not really limitied my options, but discouraged me from applying to oxbridge
try your best to convince your sixth form that you're competent and offer to do a mock "test" to prove your abilities. you need to bother them as much as possible lol. otherwise, if you're deadset on FM for its benefits (stronger oxbridge application), look into surrounding sixth forms that might have space and have a good percentage of grades A*-A in FM


yeah i understand also your point of look into surrounding sixth forms that have a good percentage of A*-A, imo it really just depends on the student and how much effort he is willing to put and idk any other sixth forms that have minimum requirements 8 (it was just brampton, lae and ncs)

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