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Do Trinity College, Cambridge students get any work advantages?

Just wondering whether Trinity College Cambridge maths students would get an advantage in say first-round application/interviews for Quant/Finance internships, compared to students at other colleges? Separate question: I'm aware that Trinity gives more generous grants and scholarships, and has larger cohorts of students, but are there any other advantages too?
Original post by Anonymous
Just wondering whether Trinity College Cambridge maths students would get an advantage in say first-round application/interviews for Quant/Finance internships, compared to students at other colleges? Separate question: I'm aware that Trinity gives more generous grants and scholarships, and has larger cohorts of students, but are there any other advantages too?

No. You don't put your college on applications really, you just put University of Cambridge.
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Original post by Anonymous
No. You don't put your college on applications really, you just put University of Cambridge.

Ok, so do they get any other tangible advantages?
Also how do you know, like are you in uni right now looking for internships?
Original post by Anonymous
Ok, so do they get any other tangible advantages?
Also how do you know, like are you in uni right now looking for internships?

Been and done my degree at Cambridge. A number of schemes are also uni blind for at least the initial stages.
Original post by Anonymous
Just wondering whether Trinity College Cambridge maths students would get an advantage in say first-round application/interviews for Quant/Finance internships, compared to students at other colleges? Separate question: I'm aware that Trinity gives more generous grants and scholarships, and has larger cohorts of students, but are there any other advantages too?

No not at all. And just because Trinity is wealthy doesn't mean that money flows down to the students either. It mostly flows into keeping the buildings going!
Original post by Anonymous
Ok, so do they get any other tangible advantages?
Also how do you know, like are you in uni right now looking for internships?

No not really. You'll find at Cambridge that colleges are really just about where you live and socialise. That's why you'll find a lot of people advising against applying based on historical 'prestige'. It doesn't translate.
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Original post by melancollege
No not really. You'll find at Cambridge that colleges are really just about where you live and socialise. That's why you'll find a lot of people advising against applying based on historical 'prestige'. It doesn't translate.

Ah I see. I'm guessing you have gone to Cambridge/have experience there?
Also then why do so many top mathmos end up there?
Original post by Anonymous
Ah I see. I'm guessing you have gone to Cambridge/have experience there?
Also then why do so many top mathmos end up there?

Current Cambridge student, just finished my third year doing Maths and about to do a fourth.

They have more Maths students than any other college by some margin - over 30 per year at undergraduate whereas the next highest is less than 20 and most have less than 10. They also similarly get more applicants but not actually that many more per acceptance than other colleges and actually less than some others. Once at Cambridge, you'll realise that your college doesn't matter that much academically.

It also seems that Trinity cares a lot about Olympiads and the British Olympiad training thing is based there. That may contribute to its image but Olympiad success doesn't translate super well to Tripos success, and it seems (to me at least) this is especially true for Applied Maths.
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Original post by melancollege
Current Cambridge student, just finished my third year doing Maths and about to do a fourth.
They have more Maths students than any other college by some margin - over 30 per year at undergraduate whereas the next highest is less than 20 and most have less than 10. They also similarly get more applicants but not actually that many more per acceptance than other colleges and actually less than some others. Once at Cambridge, you'll realise that your college doesn't matter that much academically.
It also seems that Trinity cares a lot about Olympiads and the British Olympiad training thing is based there. That may contribute to its image but Olympiad success doesn't translate super well to Tripos success, and it seems (to me at least) this is especially true for Applied Maths.

Right. I understand, however, I have read quite a few CVs, and most people put on their CV that they went to Trinity College, Cambridge, BA Maths etc. It does seem that this makes a difference, given the reputation of the college to be rigorous and the "Cambridge of Cambridge". Surely this does make some difference?
Original post by Anonymous
Right. I understand, however, I have read quite a few CVs, and most people put on their CV that they went to Trinity College, Cambridge, BA Maths etc. It does seem that this makes a difference, given the reputation of the college to be rigorous and the "Cambridge of Cambridge". Surely this does make some difference?

Seriously, how many times two we have to say this, it does not! How do you think employers assess CVs? There isn't a box that adds extra points if you did Maths at Trinity!

If you apply to Trinity, make sure you are globally good at Maths, best in school doesn't cut it, best in the UK is the standard you need to be at, and even then, loads will be cut. Why is this? 100% because of applicant behaviour. If a very substantial proportion of maths applicants apply to Trinity as their first choice, then Trinity gets first dibs at who they take. It stands to reason that on average, they have a very strong pool to select from.

Pooling only occurs if you get to interview and 20% get cut before interview. So the strongest strategy to get to Cambridge is to apply to the 'least popular' Colleges, that is those that get the fewest direct applicants for your subject, or have a skewed gender ratio against yours, or a skewed subject balance against yours. Why? Because they are the ones that will look closer and more favourably on applications that balance their student profile.
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Original post by Anonymous
Right. I understand, however, I have read quite a few CVs, and most people put on their CV that they went to Trinity College, Cambridge, BA Maths etc. It does seem that this makes a difference, given the reputation of the college to be rigorous and the "Cambridge of Cambridge". Surely this does make some difference?

The grade you get will be much more important. You will sit the exact same exams and can do the same courses. Some may put it on their CVs (I do and I'm from Sidney Sussex) because they're proud of their college or as extra information but no, it doesn't make a difference.
Original post by threeportdrift
Seriously, how many times two we have to say this, it does not! How do you think employers assess CVs? There isn't a box that adds extra points if you did Maths at Trinity!
If you apply to Trinity, make sure you are globally good at Maths, best is school doesn't cut it, best in the UK is the standard you need to be at, and even then, loads will be cut. Why is this? 100% because of applicant behaviour. If a very substation proportion of maths applicants apply to Trinity as their first choice, then Trinity gets first dibs at who they take. It stands to reason that on average, they have a very strong pool to select from.
Pooling only occurs if you get to interview and 20% get cut before interview. So the strongest strategy to get to Cambridge is to apply to the 'least popular' Colleges, that is those that get the fewest direct applicants for your subject, or have a skewed gender ratio against yours, or a skewed subject balance against yours. Why? Because they are the ones that will look closer and more favourably on applications that balance their student profile.

Ok fine. So on a different note, in terms of careers. I was wondering what were the main graduate prospects/internships available/popular for maths graduates of Cambridge? I know quant is a popular option, and teaching (although I don't aspire to go down that route) but are there others?
Original post by Anonymous
Ok fine. So on a different note, in terms of careers. I was wondering what were the main graduate prospects/internships available/popular for maths graduates of Cambridge? I know quant is a popular option, and teaching (although I don't aspire to go down that route) but are there others?

Stick "What sort of careers do Maths graduates from Cambridge go on to do?" into Chat GPT - it gives about 10 different sectors and multiple ideas.
Original post by threeportdrift
Stick "What sort of careers do Maths graduates from Cambridge go on to do?" into Chat GPT - it gives about 10 different sectors and multiple ideas.

Generally speaking, ChatGPT is not a reliable source of information. Regardless of whether its output in this specific case is accurate, I think it's unhelpful to tell people to use ChatGPT like it's a search engine it's a large language model and frequently hallucinates false information.
Original post by melancollege
Generally speaking, ChatGPT is not a reliable source of information. Regardless of whether its output in this specific case is accurate, I think it's unhelpful to tell people to use ChatGPT like it's a search engine it's a large language model and frequently hallucinates false information.

It's as reliable as any online search, such as Google, or randomers on a forum! Besides, if you type in as I suggested, you get a very good and comprehensive list of sectors, specific job titles and reasons why the skill set matches. I didn't give the advice without trying it first!
Original post by threeportdrift
It's as reliable as any online search, such as Google, or randomers on a forum! Besides, if you type in as I suggested, you get a very good and comprehensive list of sectors, specific job titles and reasons why the skill set matches. I didn't give the advice without trying it first!

I didn't say that it was going to give you wrong information for any given query, I said that it doesn't give correct information reliably.
Original post by melancollege
I didn't say that it was going to give you wrong information for any given query, I said that it doesn't give correct information reliably.

It has a funny habit of believing “strawberry” has 2 Rs in it.
Original post by Anonymous
Just wondering whether Trinity College Cambridge maths students would get an advantage in say first-round application/interviews for Quant/Finance internships, compared to students at other colleges? Separate question: I'm aware that Trinity gives more generous grants and scholarships, and has larger cohorts of students, but are there any other advantages too?

Also, OP, heed the advice of other people on this forum and do not under any circumstances apply to Trinity for Maths. You’re shooting yourself in the foot. There is a very real chance you will be rejected preinterview due to the sheer competition.
Original post by VeniVidiVinum
Also, OP, heed the advice of other people on this forum and do not under any circumstances apply to Trinity for Maths. You’re shooting yourself in the foot. There is a very real chance you will be rejected preinterview due to the sheer competition.

I'm guessing that's because they have too many applicants to interview, or is there some other reason?
Original post by Anonymous
I'm guessing that's because they have too many applicants to interview, or is there some other reason?
It’s a combination. Trinity’s reputation attracts incredibly high-quality Maths candidates, and it attracts a lot of them. Even though colleges aim to interview as many people as possible, the sheer number of good applicants Trinity gets means that they have to reject some pre interview, including applicants who probably would’ve been interviewed at another less subscribed college. It’s not particularly a problem for other subjects at Trinity, but conventional wisdom states you should avoid applying there for Maths. No college is seriously better than any other for any subject, and you’re running the risk of being rejected without a chance to be pooled.

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