The Polish Society

Is it true Polish people look up to Asians (predominantly Pakistanis) ??

Witam drodzy rodacy. W przyszłym roku zaczynam A Levels i mam pytanie czy zdaje tylko z czterech przedmiotów jakie sobie wybiorę czy są jeszcze jakieś przymusowe których nie mogę wybrać tak jak to było na GCSE, tzn matma i angielski.

No, we hate them.


W A-Levels sam/a wybierasz sobie wszystkie klasy. Niektore szkoly oferuja dodatkowe zajecia obowiazkowe typu Critical Thinking, ale z tego co wiem, to wiekszosc uniwersytetow nie bierze juz tego pod uwage, wiec szkoly tez przestaja ich uczyc.
Aha, i A-Levels z grubsza zdaje sie z trzech przedmiotow, nie czterech. Czwarty jest zwykle dodatkowym na pierwszym roku jako AS, ale malo ludzi kontynuuje jego nauke w A2. Chociaz teraz i tak wiekszosc przedmiotow jest liniowa, tz. wszystkie egzaminy zdaje sie na drugim roku, przez co niektore 6th formy zdecydowanie zalecaja uczenie sie tylko trzech przedmiotow, bo i tak nie dostaniemy oceny z AS z czwartego.

Why do you hate them?

Because they're Muslims. I am not specifically pointing out myself as somebody who would discriminate Pakistanis, but the general public opinion is that Islam is scum and should have no place in Europe.

Wow. You have a very racist ideology and are filled with hatred. Absolutely filthy and disgusting.

the ideology is very much filled with hatred. I

Wow. You have a very racist ideology and are filled with hatred. Absolutely filthy and disgusting.

Is it true Polish people look up to Asians (predominantly Pakistanis) ??

I've never heard about any Polish national ideology. It's just the radicals do a biggest noise, plus we get really angry when hearing about terrorist attacks and rapes.




I've noticed that you British have problems in seeing the difference between race and religion. And even If not, frostyy has oversimplified a bit. There are muslims that we do respect, particularly Tatars. Noone has ever heard about terrorist Tatar, and Polish Tatars are well tried peaceful citizens and patriots. Our alliance and frendship dates back to XIIIth century. We fought a lot of wars together, even against the Ottoman Empire, and they are pretty well known and remembered, even (or suprisingly especially) by far right.

Something more about this Polish "racism"

Polish hero general "Little Negro"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/W%C5%82adys%C5%82aw_Franciszek_Jab%C5%82onowski

And this guy was recently mentioned in all major media
http://demotywatory.pl/3594214/August-Agbola-OBrown
He was a soldier of the "ZWZ-AK" during WWII, in English known as the "Home Army"



Polish people usually respect some far east Asians. Particularly Chinese and Vietnamese. Japanese were even often considered as superior to us, because of their almost mithological quality of work, organization.

When it comes to Pakistanis, many will tell you that they're bad because they are muslims.
Recent reports about rapes commited by Pakistanis in the UK are rather famous in Poland, and cause anger in our society.
Poles generally react with agression when they hear about assaults on women.

Though If you asked some old Pole interested in history of WWII, it is possible that he would have good opinion about Pakistani. More than ten thousands of Poles lived out there during WWII. The general Anders'es so called "army" half of which were women and children. So young men went to fight in Europe, while old men, women and children stayed in Pakistan for some time. After WWII some pilots from 303 squadron worked out there upon training of Pakistani air force.

I've recently seen a documentary about it and there was old Pakistani man who remembered the Poles and he had very critical opinion about current changes in approach to religion in Pakistan (used by politics, while at his youth they were making friends with catholic Poles and nobody cared about differences).

The Pakistani community that I know of in the UK think very positive about the Polish community, always referring them as "hard working" and "humble".
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The news tends to hype it up as they are Muslim and I am pretty shocked and surprised that the news travels all the way to Poland regarding such ethnic community

The majority of the Pakistani community is very respectful and honest. Just like the Polish people they work their upmost hardest to earn a living so that they can feed their family.

I am still shocked about how narrow minded some people are in Poland and other nations regarding Pakistani's and Muslims in specific.

I have no idea about actual situation. This however is very likely. Majority of Polish population is still pretty opened, however there is much noise coming from some minor groups, and overall climate is in fear of of muslims.


Poles are very interested in news from the west and every day there must be some info sowhere, related to immigration. I'm not even entirely sure why. I think this is a mixed-effect of high Polish emmigration to the western Europe, recent attacks on Poles and this overall bad climate for Poles in the UK we get to hear about, and history.

Pole maybe pretty ignorant about history, but he surely knows that there were numerous wars with the Ottoman Empire, Russia, that there was a Polish-Bolshevik war of 1920, and is very confident about Poland's contribution in fighting the IIIrd Reich, and fall of communism in 1980ties. This has become a part of modern nation's foundation myth. Poles often consider their nation as a defender of Europe, often treated unfairly, or even betrayed by the west, but defender of the continent from savage hordes.
So when the Poles hear that some Arabic, African or Pakistani immigrants get sky-high handouts for nothing (often higher that wages they would only dream about in Poland), sexuals assaults, and terrorist attacks, they get irritated.




Yes, but the media doesn't cover "nobody dies" stories. Simplyfying, we get hear out here about terrorist attacks, rapes, riots, and sky-high handouts, someone finds some stats which confirms that muslim immigrants commit more crimes than native British people, so there conclusion goes: "The barbarians are destoying Europe, and they'll take over because of breed rate. Brace for war!"




Like the Brits who killed Poles and Lithuanians weren't.
At the beginning of the immigration crisis, something like 70% of Poles believed that the those migrants must be provided with aid and accomodation, and that Poland should take part in. (speaking from memory, so forgive me If I'm wrong)
Now it's something about 55%, however now 35% wants the EU or UN to cover our expences on it.

I can't really answer you in regards to the past, because I'm no historian, but your arguments relating to Tatars are quite poor. Most Poles don't even take into account their religious beliefs

Which is why quite interestingly, racism should be taken into account here - Arabs are viewed more negatively than Slavs and Central Asians, who are more closely related to Poles.

Generally, the idea is that a Pole would usually either have a negative opinion on Islam, or not have one at all, which is where my conclusion comes from.

Anyway, conventionally, the hate has its basis in fear of unknown and foreign cultures that would not fit the lifestyle of an Eastern European.

Poles quite simply are afraid of someone who puts spirituality and religion above other life areas.

Someone willing to pray 5 times a day and starve themselves for a month in the name of a book leads a lot to think that they also would not hold themselves in harming our values, our ways of living and us ourselves if certain conditions were to be applied.

Whether this belief is right or wrong is debatable, but what I personally do agree with, is the fact that if a Muslim was to live in Poland, he would be having a very hard time.

Not all neighbourhoods in Poland are safe, even for a Polish person - if someone in a hijab or a beard was walking in downtown Lodz, Szczecin or in Northern Praga or at Mokotow, I wouldn't be surprised if they'd be attacked by some skinhead nationalists.

In order of their own safety, no, Muslims should not migrate to Eastern Europe.

Yeah I have to agree with PTMalewski - most people in Poland are racists, especially to Muslims.

Czy ktoś z was robił IELTS? Mam pytanko

ja robiłam )

Bardzo trudno było? Mieszkam w UK od 1,5 roku, ale trochę się stresuję. Musze miec przynajmniej 6.5 w kazdej części zeby sie dostac na uniwersytet, jestem ciekawa czy to bedzie bardzo trudne?