Fully Qualified & no job
Having recently passed C+G Level 3 diploma in light vehicle maintenance and repair in June I've only had 4 interviews and no offer of work. Why is it that after all your efforts and dedication you get **** all? 1. Need experiance 2. Been unemployed to long 3. Over qualified 4.To old. 5. Not time served. Are the common BS excuses employers give whilst at the same time complaining there is a skills shortage (there is no skills shortage and never has been).
'overqualified' suggests one posesses a great deal of experiance.
Having to accept an unskilled manual labouring role is demoralising and hardly aspiring thus proves a bawkward system
Age discrimination is everywhere...when I go to the cinema or JD Sports, Footlocker for decent nike tracksuits and TN trainers and they only employ younger staff!
7 years ago I decided to take as many welding accreditations as I can and have studied up to level 3 and traveled as far as Leeds, Burnley and many colleges around Manchester.
Take it from me...if you can't find employment within your chosen field by the age of 25 FORGET IT!
I'm now homeless and living In my car with my cat and don't expect to see an improvement in my prospects...the system is backward and it gets no better.
'overqualified' suggests one posesses a great deal of experiance.
Having to accept an unskilled manual labouring role is demoralising and hardly aspiring thus proves a bawkward system
Age discrimination is everywhere...when I go to the cinema or JD Sports, Footlocker for decent nike tracksuits and TN trainers and they only employ younger staff!
7 years ago I decided to take as many welding accreditations as I can and have studied up to level 3 and traveled as far as Leeds, Burnley and many colleges around Manchester.
Take it from me...if you can't find employment within your chosen field by the age of 25 FORGET IT!
I'm now homeless and living In my car with my cat and don't expect to see an improvement in my prospects...the system is backward and it gets no better.
I am sorry to hear about your situation. The problem is that in education, all you need to do to progress to the next level is past the necessary exam and you automatically move up.
Work is very different. A qualification is no guarantee of employment and never has been. What employers are looking for is someone with the skills, knowledge and aptitude to do the job required such that the business will continue to make money. I imagine that a garage or mechanic is looking for someone who can work on most jobs unassisted without constantly asking for help or reassurance. Is that you? If not, could you ask to get some unpaid work experience because ultimately that is what employers want because it shows that you can do the job.
Good luck!
Work is very different. A qualification is no guarantee of employment and never has been. What employers are looking for is someone with the skills, knowledge and aptitude to do the job required such that the business will continue to make money. I imagine that a garage or mechanic is looking for someone who can work on most jobs unassisted without constantly asking for help or reassurance. Is that you? If not, could you ask to get some unpaid work experience because ultimately that is what employers want because it shows that you can do the job.
Good luck!
Original post by hotpud
I am sorry to hear about your situation. The problem is that in education, all you need to do to progress to the next level is past the necessary exam and you automatically move up.
Work is very different. A qualification is no guarantee of employment and never has been. What employers are looking for is someone with the skills, knowledge and aptitude to do the job required such that the business will continue to make money. I imagine that a garage or mechanic is looking for someone who can work on most jobs unassisted without constantly asking for help or reassurance. Is that you? If not, could you ask to get some unpaid work experience because ultimately that is what employers want because it shows that you can do the job.
Good luck!
Work is very different. A qualification is no guarantee of employment and never has been. What employers are looking for is someone with the skills, knowledge and aptitude to do the job required such that the business will continue to make money. I imagine that a garage or mechanic is looking for someone who can work on most jobs unassisted without constantly asking for help or reassurance. Is that you? If not, could you ask to get some unpaid work experience because ultimately that is what employers want because it shows that you can do the job.
Good luck!
I'm more than competent within the field of mechanics with two ford capris and a 1994 granada scorpio that I'm now living in.
If an employers door is closed to fresh talent then there is no skills shortage.
Back in 2013 (after waiting 20 years of long term employment and crappy unskilled manual labouring jobs) I found work for around six weeks at a garage. I just couldn't believe it however, this ended up me having to take the employerb to a tribunal for paying me less than the minimum wage. The excuse from the employer was that I was only qualified to level 2 and his solicitor said I did all my college work at night school which wasn't true. Fortunately I still have every piece of my old college paperwork including my YTS apprenticeship acknowledgement which was presented to the judge on the day of the hearing. The employer was ordered to pay me £972 and its a fine example just what your up against with dodgy employers.
Faced with no job I then decided to gain further accreditations in the field of welding which were all free whilst unemployed. As soon as I passed Level 3 in mig welding plate at Burnley College I found out via a welding forum that you can then take mig welding level 3 pipe.
After searching for a college within the Northwest I gave up and started searching in Yorkshire, finally I came across Leeds College of Building. Enrolled and passed within 15 hours! Having never done any form of pipe welding before I think that was a highly commendable achievement...I was the fastest student they'd ever had through the doors. Some people have a natural gift to pick up the job very quickly...something all employers fail to recognise but most are just brain dead and ignorant.
I happen to hold 15 A Levels within so many different trades thus proving there is certainly no skills shortage. I could start tomorrow be it bricklaying, plumbing, electrical installation, welding, painting+decorating etc.
Experiance doesn't make you a professional and never will, if you are not qualified your not anything and never will be...your just out there to undercut the professional.
Qualified means you know your job and therefore deserve the credit for taking both your time effort and dedication to gaining a greater understanding of the job.
Experiance is all word of mouth and anyone can say they are experienced and it doesn't mean they are any good either! However, there is no substitute for knowledge.
'Learning by making mistakes' is an all to common misconception only the inept have inherited. I choose to learn by other people's mistakes by going to college and learning the correct way from a fully qualified competent tutor.
If you choose to learn by making mistakes how many mistakes until you learn? And who's to say after all your efforts you are right. It's not practical to learn by your mistakes as its both unpractical and often an expensive decision.
An education speaks for itself.
I'm fortunate enough to have dedicated most of my time to get qualified within many different fields, if a job needs doing I do it myself.
Can't believe how so many out there who have been to university are so incompetent they can't even wire up a 3 pin mains plug or even change a light bulb.
Fortunately my life is not dominated by TV and (I've never bought one yet and never intend to) I restore old vintage valve radios, many of which I sell on ebay.
You only get one shot at life so learn to turn your hand to as many different trades as you can...if I want something doing properly then I do it myself...I'm also ambidextrous so I can with either hand.
If no one is willing to give you a chance how can you even succeed?
I have both valeted and serviced all my neighbours and families vehicles for years and have even fully reconditioned engines and sold them on ebay. I certainly wouldn't trust any garage to cary out work I know I can do myself and never will, it's why I have a sideline.
I have both valeted and serviced all my neighbours and families vehicles for years and have even fully reconditioned engines and sold them on ebay. I certainly wouldn't trust any garage to cary out work I know I can do myself and never will, it's why I have a sideline.
1.
Too old.
2.
Overqualified.
3.
Need Experience
4.
Been out of work to long.
Are all common random excuses any employer will give, many wouldn't have the audacity to acknowledge your application either.
Are you ****ed? Hardly aspirational accepting a job that's way below your level of skill especially when you are more competent and comfortable in your prefered field of work.
Dropping down to these depths is both demeaning and demoralising after all your efforts to do far better.
Proves there is no skills shortage if out of your profession and forced to accept a crap job.
Dropping down to these depths is both demeaning and demoralising after all your efforts to do far better.
Proves there is no skills shortage if out of your profession and forced to accept a crap job.
Original post by c.a.p.r.i
Are you ****ed? Hardly aspirational accepting a job that's way below your level of skill especially when you are more competent and comfortable in your prefered field of work.
Dropping down to these depths is both demeaning and demoralising after all your efforts to do far better.
Proves there is no skills shortage if out of your profession and forced to accept a crap job.
Dropping down to these depths is both demeaning and demoralising after all your efforts to do far better.
Proves there is no skills shortage if out of your profession and forced to accept a crap job.
You've claimed you are homeless and living in your car. Such a job that gives you a steady income is a far better than your current situation.
I suspect the barriers you face to employment have nothing to do with you being overqualified etc.
Original post by c.a.p.r.i
I'm more than competent within the field of mechanics with two ford capris and a 1994 granada scorpio that I'm now living in.
If an employers door is closed to fresh talent then there is no skills shortage.
Back in 2013 (after waiting 20 years of long term employment and crappy unskilled manual labouring jobs) I found work for around six weeks at a garage. I just couldn't believe it however, this ended up me having to take the employerb to a tribunal for paying me less than the minimum wage. The excuse from the employer was that I was only qualified to level 2 and his solicitor said I did all my college work at night school which wasn't true. Fortunately I still have every piece of my old college paperwork including my YTS apprenticeship acknowledgement which was presented to the judge on the day of the hearing. The employer was ordered to pay me £972 and its a fine example just what your up against with dodgy employers.
Faced with no job I then decided to gain further accreditations in the field of welding which were all free whilst unemployed. As soon as I passed Level 3 in mig welding plate at Burnley College I found out via a welding forum that you can then take mig welding level 3 pipe.
After searching for a college within the Northwest I gave up and started searching in Yorkshire, finally I came across Leeds College of Building. Enrolled and passed within 15 hours! Having never done any form of pipe welding before I think that was a highly commendable achievement...I was the fastest student they'd ever had through the doors. Some people have a natural gift to pick up the job very quickly...something all employers fail to recognise but most are just brain dead and ignorant.
I happen to hold 15 A Levels within so many different trades thus proving there is certainly no skills shortage. I could start tomorrow be it bricklaying, plumbing, electrical installation, welding, painting+decorating etc.
Experiance doesn't make you a professional and never will, if you are not qualified your not anything and never will be...your just out there to undercut the professional.
Qualified means you know your job and therefore deserve the credit for taking both your time effort and dedication to gaining a greater understanding of the job.
Experiance is all word of mouth and anyone can say they are experienced and it doesn't mean they are any good either! However, there is no substitute for knowledge.
'Learning by making mistakes' is an all to common misconception only the inept have inherited. I choose to learn by other people's mistakes by going to college and learning the correct way from a fully qualified competent tutor.
If you choose to learn by making mistakes how many mistakes until you learn? And who's to say after all your efforts you are right. It's not practical to learn by your mistakes as its both unpractical and often an expensive decision.
An education speaks for itself.
I'm fortunate enough to have dedicated most of my time to get qualified within many different fields, if a job needs doing I do it myself.
Can't believe how so many out there who have been to university are so incompetent they can't even wire up a 3 pin mains plug or even change a light bulb.
Fortunately my life is not dominated by TV and (I've never bought one yet and never intend to) I restore old vintage valve radios, many of which I sell on ebay.
You only get one shot at life so learn to turn your hand to as many different trades as you can...if I want something doing properly then I do it myself...I'm also ambidextrous so I can with either hand.
If an employers door is closed to fresh talent then there is no skills shortage.
Back in 2013 (after waiting 20 years of long term employment and crappy unskilled manual labouring jobs) I found work for around six weeks at a garage. I just couldn't believe it however, this ended up me having to take the employerb to a tribunal for paying me less than the minimum wage. The excuse from the employer was that I was only qualified to level 2 and his solicitor said I did all my college work at night school which wasn't true. Fortunately I still have every piece of my old college paperwork including my YTS apprenticeship acknowledgement which was presented to the judge on the day of the hearing. The employer was ordered to pay me £972 and its a fine example just what your up against with dodgy employers.
Faced with no job I then decided to gain further accreditations in the field of welding which were all free whilst unemployed. As soon as I passed Level 3 in mig welding plate at Burnley College I found out via a welding forum that you can then take mig welding level 3 pipe.
After searching for a college within the Northwest I gave up and started searching in Yorkshire, finally I came across Leeds College of Building. Enrolled and passed within 15 hours! Having never done any form of pipe welding before I think that was a highly commendable achievement...I was the fastest student they'd ever had through the doors. Some people have a natural gift to pick up the job very quickly...something all employers fail to recognise but most are just brain dead and ignorant.
I happen to hold 15 A Levels within so many different trades thus proving there is certainly no skills shortage. I could start tomorrow be it bricklaying, plumbing, electrical installation, welding, painting+decorating etc.
Experiance doesn't make you a professional and never will, if you are not qualified your not anything and never will be...your just out there to undercut the professional.
Qualified means you know your job and therefore deserve the credit for taking both your time effort and dedication to gaining a greater understanding of the job.
Experiance is all word of mouth and anyone can say they are experienced and it doesn't mean they are any good either! However, there is no substitute for knowledge.
'Learning by making mistakes' is an all to common misconception only the inept have inherited. I choose to learn by other people's mistakes by going to college and learning the correct way from a fully qualified competent tutor.
If you choose to learn by making mistakes how many mistakes until you learn? And who's to say after all your efforts you are right. It's not practical to learn by your mistakes as its both unpractical and often an expensive decision.
An education speaks for itself.
I'm fortunate enough to have dedicated most of my time to get qualified within many different fields, if a job needs doing I do it myself.
Can't believe how so many out there who have been to university are so incompetent they can't even wire up a 3 pin mains plug or even change a light bulb.
Fortunately my life is not dominated by TV and (I've never bought one yet and never intend to) I restore old vintage valve radios, many of which I sell on ebay.
You only get one shot at life so learn to turn your hand to as many different trades as you can...if I want something doing properly then I do it myself...I'm also ambidextrous so I can with either hand.
So if you have all that experience and skills, why can't you get a job? What are you doing to put off employers? They should be biting your hand off? The only thing I can think is that you are going in a bit too self-assured and come across as cocky?
If you are deprived of reaching your full potential at what you are good at then what do you expect? One soon gets bored of the all to common BS employers give whilst trying to find work. Ebay and cash in hand make for a reasonable stopgap whilst trying to survie today's economic disaster.
It's what creates a black economy and why so many resort to doing their bit in sustaining it.
Next qualification on the list is *IMI Level 4 Hybrid and EV.
Institute of the Motor Industry.
It's what creates a black economy and why so many resort to doing their bit in sustaining it.
Next qualification on the list is *IMI Level 4 Hybrid and EV.
Institute of the Motor Industry.
Went for an interview the other day...don't want chavs and scally lads here as you just giggle with an attitude to annoy others, you also have adhd. Had lads like you before and you cause trouble.
The guy's a ******* prick man, if you don't take people seriously you ain't getting the staff init.
After doing so well in college with the most distinctions in the class i was expecting a ******* job, got the most expensive tools in my box and service and valet my neighbours cars all the time.
Thank **** i can do the job properly myself and don't have to put up with being ripped off by dodgy garages as there all mongs.
My neighbours always give me odd jobs to do from decorating, plumbing and i charge what i want, they would much rather see me doing something instead of hanging about though. I have an abundance of energy and can turn my hand to any job.
The guy's a ******* prick man, if you don't take people seriously you ain't getting the staff init.
After doing so well in college with the most distinctions in the class i was expecting a ******* job, got the most expensive tools in my box and service and valet my neighbours cars all the time.
Thank **** i can do the job properly myself and don't have to put up with being ripped off by dodgy garages as there all mongs.
My neighbours always give me odd jobs to do from decorating, plumbing and i charge what i want, they would much rather see me doing something instead of hanging about though. I have an abundance of energy and can turn my hand to any job.
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