Safeguarding

OP

Original post by Surnia

Oh good grief. Why do you now think you're not under police investigation, then talk about the police closing the case? The latter may not happen if there's a criminal case to answer.
Get professional help.

So if 2 months ago the allegation was reported and statement given why have I not been arrested?

Reply 22

Original post by Anonymous

So if 2 months ago the allegation was reported and statement given why have I not been arrested?

Because it’s either still an open investigation, or it’s been closed as there wasn’t sufficient grounds to pursue it further.

Reply 23

OP

Original post by Admit-One

Because it’s either still an open investigation, or it’s been closed as there wasn’t sufficient grounds to pursue it further.

My workplace investigation is still ongoing so I'm assuming the police is ongoing as well?

Reply 24

Original post by Anonymous

My workplace investigation is still ongoing so I'm assuming the police is ongoing as well?

Not necessarily. It could be done and dusted. Or closed for now unless your work find any more relevant evidence to pass along.

Reply 25

Original post by Anonymous

Okay okay I get it but whilst my workplace don't need evidence to dismiss they go on balance of probability but the police definitely need evidence and they might not be any.

An employer needs reasonable grounds to dismiss an employee if the employee has sufficient continuity of employment to be protected against unfair dismissal.

The CPS applies the following test in deciding whether to prosecute -

"Is there enough evidence against the defendant?
When deciding whether there is enough evidence to charge, Crown Prosecutors must consider whether evidence can be used in court and is reliable and credible, and there is no other material that might affect the sufficiency of evidence. Crown Prosecutors must be satisfied there is enough evidence to provide a "realistic prospect of conviction" against each defendant.
Is it in the public interest for the CPS to bring the case to court?
A prosecution will usually take place unless the prosecutor is sure that the public interest factors tending against prosecution outweigh those tending in favour."

You appear somewhat confused, and perhaps unconcerned about the seriousness of the situation. Safeguarding isn't about you. It's about protecting children or vulnerable adults.

You mention that there was an incident. You should take legal advice about the incident.

Reply 26

OP

Original post by Admit-One

Not necessarily. It could be done and dusted. Or closed for now unless your work find any more relevant evidence to pass along.

It's starting to make more sense but at the time I was reported to the police why did they not arrest me?

Reply 27

Original post by Anonymous

It's starting to make more sense but at the time I was reported to the police why did they not arrest me?

The police will often investigate a matter for some time before deciding to arrest a suspect or to close the investigation. Arresting a suspect imposes various constraints on an investigation. Reality is not as depicted in cop shows on TV.

There is no point trying to guess what may be happening. You may need at the least an employment lawyer and, possibly, a criminal lawyer.

Reply 28

StriderHort

Original post by Stiffy Byng

The police will often investigate a matter for some time before deciding to arrest a suspect or to close the investigation. Arresting a suspect imposes various constraints on an investigation. Reality is not as depicted in cop shows on TV.
There is no point trying to guess what may be happening. You may need at the least an employment lawyer and, possibly, a criminal lawyer.

This, there really is little point in asking us for all these detailed updates when we're nothing to do with what's going on, you need professional assistance.

As for the police, they'll know where to find you and can scoop you up if required, there's no reason for them to take the extra steps and responsibilities of arresting you immediately. in many cases you get asked to attend a formal interview at the station first and an arrest may follow this or if you refused to attend.

Reply 29

Original post by Anonymous

It's starting to make more sense but at the time I was reported to the police why did they not arrest me?

Because an open investigation is to determine whether there’s any grounds to arrest you.

Reply 30

OP, if I were representing you in a civil matter, I'd ask you what (if anything) you did. If I were representing you in a criminal matter, I probably wouldn't ask you that question, as your answer might limit what I could ethically do for you.

In either situation, I would need to know what is alleged against you and what evidence is available relating to the allegation. I don't suggest that you go into such detail here, but you should be prepared to provide full detail to anyone who advises you.

If you are a member of a trade union, the union may be able to provide legal assistance.

Reply 31

OP

Original post by Stiffy Byng

OP, if I were representing you in a civil matter, I'd ask you what (if anything) you did. If I were representing you in a criminal matter, I probably wouldn't ask you that question, as your answer might limit what I could ethically do for you.
In either situation, I would need to know what is alleged against you and what evidence is available relating to the allegation. I don't suggest that you go into such detail here, but you should be prepared to provide full detail to anyone who advises you.
If you are a member of a trade union, the union may be able to provide legal assistance.

OK I get that and I will seek assistance as required. I'm not bothered about work anymore the issue is now what will happen with the police? It could be my workplace are gathering evidence for the police hence they said keep it an open enquiry.

Thanks for all your help

Reply 32

Original post by Anonymous

OK I get that and I will seek assistance as required. I'm not bothered about work anymore the issue is now what will happen with the police? It could be my workplace are gathering evidence for the police hence they said keep it an open enquiry.
Thanks for all your help

I suggest that you stop speculating about what the police or your employer might be doing. You appear blithely unconcerned that you may have been accused of doing something that may have been contrary to the welfare of a child or a vulnerable adult.

Reply 33

OP

Original post by Admit-One

Because an open investigation is to determine whether there’s any grounds to arrest you.

It's been a while now although I still have not heard from the police. My workplace have 2 weeks left to invite ne to a formal disciplinary hearing which I won't be going to anyway. So if the workplace gathered evidence then why have I not heard from the police yet?

Reply 34

OP

It's been a while now although I still have not heard from the police. My workplace have 2 weeks left to invite ne to a formal disciplinary hearing which I won't be going to anyway. So if the workplace gathered evidence then why have I not heard from the police yet?

I'm really very very scared and wish this goes away. It's hanging over me everyday.

Reply 35

Surnia

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Original post by Anonymous

It's been a while now although I still have not heard from the police. My workplace have 2 weeks left to invite ne to a formal disciplinary hearing which I won't be going to anyway. So if the workplace gathered evidence then why have I not heard from the police yet?
I'm really very very scared and wish this goes away. It's hanging over me everyday.

Why wouldn't you go to a formal disciplinary hearing?

You seem unclear all the way through this thread as to whether there is police involvement. Maybe concentrate on what you know has actually happened and prepare for that.

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Reply 36

OP

Original post by Surnia

Why wouldn't you go to a formal disciplinary hearing?

Because I have already resigned. I have 2 weeks of notice left

Reply 37

Original post by Anonymous

It's been a while now although I still have not heard from the police. My workplace have 2 weeks left to invite ne to a formal disciplinary hearing which I won't be going to anyway. So if the workplace gathered evidence then why have I not heard from the police yet?

I don’t work for the police and can’t possibly answer this.

You’ve never really addressed whether you think it’s a police matter. If not, it doesn’t really matter whether there was or wasn’t an open investigation and whether they have or haven’t gotten in touch.

If you backhanded a child in front of witnesses, yes, I would be worried. If you’d chastised one harshly then I wouldn’t.

Reply 38

Kutie Karen

Original post by Anonymous

My workplace has reported me to the internal safeguarding team. Could they tell the police?

It depends on what happend. Yes they can tell the police. Did your HR team have a meetign with you?

Reply 39

StriderHort