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This is going to be a long one but bear with me.

So a few months ago I came across a post on here of a girl asking for help since her parents were trying to force her to go back to her home country and get married off. She obviously didn't want to go and was therefore asking for help on here since she had just turned 18. Long story short I engaged with her a lot on her thread and gave her all of the advice I could and so we eventually ended up just private messaging on here since no one else was replying to her thread. Now, this is where it's gone wrong. She made it clear that she has to keep all of this a secret from her parents for very obvious reasons but recently her parents had grown suspicious that something was going on. She was as careful as possible as far as I'm aware because I think she used to delete the app after messaging but since saturday she hasn't replied to a single message and on tuesday she deleted her account, well it probably wasn't her deleting her account but this definitely means she's been caught. Now I'm worried for her because her parents had threatened her so many times over the fact she was refusing to agree to their wish of getting married off and now I feel like the fact she's most definitely been caught means that things are going to get worse for her. She had shared things like her name and background with me along with her age and where her family was moving to in England and so on, so I feel like that's enough information to hand over to the police for them to track her down.

I'm genuinely very concerned for her and worried that things will get worse for her than they already are. At the same time I'm not sure if the police would take this seriously since it's all online. I know for a fact she's not lying about any of it because I've spoken to her for long enough but I just need advice as to what I should do. For all I know going to the police might make matters worse for her since she has younger siblings as well. It's mainly her dad who is behind all of this so I guess her mum would be okay which is good for the younger siblings.

Should I go to the police about this since she is being forced into a marriage after all and there's a HUGE risk that her parents might do something worse to her since they've most definitely caught her posting on here about it and talking to me. If I do approach the police about this then how should I go about it?

Also wanted to add that I contacted TSR support that if they could share my email with her since they must still have her email on their database but I am yet to receive a reply.

Any guidance would be appreciated.

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Hi mahmed,

First of all, thank you for being such a caring person and reaching out for advice about this situation. It sounds incredibly challenging and concerning, especially given the potential risks involved.
Your instinct to ensure her safety is commendable, and it's understandable to feel anxious about the potential consequences of involving the police. Given the gravity of the situation, I think it's important to prioritise her safety and well-being above all else.

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Document Everything: Keep a record of all the communications you've had with her, including the details she shared about her situation. This can be helpful if you decide to contact authorities.

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Reach Out to Local Support Services: Before going to the police, consider contacting organisations that specialise in helping individuals in forced marriage situations or domestic abuse. They can provide advice on how to navigate this and may be able to intervene without escalating the situation further.

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Police Involvement: If you choose to contact the police, explain the situation clearly. Provide them with the information you have, emphasising your concern for her safety. They may take your report seriously, especially given the potential risk of forced marriage.

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Confidentiality: Reassure yourself that law enforcement and support organisations have protocols in place to handle sensitive information. They can often approach situations discreetly.

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Follow Up with Support Services: Continue trying to reach out to TSR support or any other relevant organisations that might be able to assist her. They might have protocols in place to help her if she’s in a dangerous situation.

Remember, it's not uncommon for people in her situation to feel trapped, and she may have limited options right now. Your concern is valid, and taking action could be crucial for her safety. Trust your instincts, and don’t hesitate to reach out for help from professionals who are trained to handle such situations.
Stay strong, and I hope for the best outcome for her.
Take care.
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Thanks for the advice, I've just finished making note of everything I can remember.

Do you know of any organisations relevant to this which I could contact? There's quite a few online so I'm not sure which is the best one to contact
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Original post by m_ahmed_w
Thanks for the advice, I've just finished making note of everything I can remember.
Do you know of any organisations relevant to this which I could contact? There's quite a few online so I'm not sure which is the best one to contact

The Halo project seems to be the best one so I'll probably give them a call tomorrow
Original post by m_ahmed_w
The Halo project seems to be the best one so I'll probably give them a call tomorrow

There are also the Southall Black Sisters, which is an organisation and /or safe house for women in these kind of situations (domestic abuse, forced marriages etc.), and they are acutely aware of issues specific to South Asian communities.
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the police is useless, they won't do ****
have you tried finding her fb, since you know her name/city?
Hello, just to address one point of yours, when you say, "At the same time I'm not sure if the police would take this seriously since it's all online" - I have been in a not-so-different situation.

I was in contact with someone on TSR who lived in an abusive household, and I wrote to the police. If you go to the website of the relevant police force (say it was Sussex Police, for example), you can click the "Report" button, then the "See all reporting services" button, then the "Tell us about something you've seen or heard" button, and then the "Request something else" button. If I am remembering correctly, this will let you write quite a long message to the police, explaining the situation as you have done here. But, they may take up to two days to read the report, so you could click "Report" and then report it under "Domestic Abuse", which coercing someone into marriage is. They will not be annoyed with you, or think your concerns are trivial.

In my case, they listened to what I had to say, and sent someone round to the person I was in contact with.
I wish you the best of luck, and I'm sorry you're in this situation.
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Original post by EVRoosevelt
Hello, just to address one point of yours, when you say, "At the same time I'm not sure if the police would take this seriously since it's all online" - I have been in a not-so-different situation.
I was in contact with someone on TSR who lived in an abusive household, and I wrote to the police. If you go to the website of the relevant police force (say it was Sussex Police, for example), you can click the "Report" button, then the "See all reporting services" button, then the "Tell us about something you've seen or heard" button, and then the "Request something else" button. If I am remembering correctly, this will let you write quite a long message to the police, explaining the situation as you have done here. But, they may take up to two days to read the report, so you could click "Report" and then report it under "Domestic Abuse", which coercing someone into marriage is. They will not be annoyed with you, or think your concerns are trivial.
In my case, they listened to what I had to say, and sent someone round to the person I was in contact with.
I wish you the best of luck, and I'm sorry you're in this situation.

wow... you should never do that. do you know how much trouble that person could get with their partner or family because of your actions? why would you intervene in their life anyway? unless they are a minor, that's straight up crazy
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Original post by EVRoosevelt
Hello, just to address one point of yours, when you say, "At the same time I'm not sure if the police would take this seriously since it's all online" - I have been in a not-so-different situation.
I was in contact with someone on TSR who lived in an abusive household, and I wrote to the police. If you go to the website of the relevant police force (say it was Sussex Police, for example), you can click the "Report" button, then the "See all reporting services" button, then the "Tell us about something you've seen or heard" button, and then the "Request something else" button. If I am remembering correctly, this will let you write quite a long message to the police, explaining the situation as you have done here. But, they may take up to two days to read the report, so you could click "Report" and then report it under "Domestic Abuse", which coercing someone into marriage is. They will not be annoyed with you, or think your concerns are trivial.
In my case, they listened to what I had to say, and sent someone round to the person I was in contact with.
I wish you the best of luck, and I'm sorry you're in this situation.


Thank you so much for taking the time to read it and share your advice. I’ve been worried about her so much and it’s so reassuring to know that she can get help if I act quickly. I’m just concerned about the implications it will have on her siblings/household due to her siblings being so young but then again it’s only a matter of a few years until her sisters are older and then all of this gets repeated again. I’ll speak to the Halo project tomorrow and then after that I’ll consider going ahead and reporting it to the police. Thank you once again for your advice, I appreciate it
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Original post by Old Skool Freak
There are also the Southall Black Sisters, which is an organisation and /or safe house for women in these kind of situations (domestic abuse, forced marriages etc.), and they are acutely aware of issues specific to South Asian communities.


Thanks, I’ll take a look into it. I appreciate you taking the time to help
I’ve just spoken with the Halo Project today and they’ve said there isn’t too much they can do due to the limited information so my best bet is to go to the police and even then the police might not be able to do too much. Main issues are that I don’t know her exact address/location. The most I can do it go to the police and even then they can only really make a report and keep it there for when she does ring them if things get worse or she can contact them. Apart from that I just have to wait for her to contact me which I really hope she does. Thank you all for your advice and help, I really do appreciate it and I hope she does find a way to reach out again.
Original post by m_ahmed_w
Thank you so much for taking the time to read it and share your advice. I’ve been worried about her so much and it’s so reassuring to know that she can get help if I act quickly. I’m just concerned about the implications it will have on her siblings/household due to her siblings being so young but then again it’s only a matter of a few years until her sisters are older and then all of this gets repeated again. I’ll speak to the Halo project tomorrow and then after that I’ll consider going ahead and reporting it to the police. Thank you once again for your advice, I appreciate it

No problem in the least, I hope dearly that you hear from her soon.
I completely understand your concerns about her siblings and household (and it's admirable of you to think of the wider implications), but the way I perceive the matter is that her parents are the ones in the wrong, and as such, they have brought any consequences upon themselves: you bringing anything to the attention of the relevant authorities is doing a good deed, and leaving those capable of acting in full knowledge of the situation. 🙂

I was glad to read your update post. In my case, whilst I didn't know the address, I knew the college the person had attended, and I was able to point the police in that direction, in case the person's address was still on file, which I suppose it must have been. And the college could have given a surname, at which point there might be household records - I'm not sure if the Yellow Pages still exist anymore, but I suppose people's addresses can't be too hard to find for the police, when given a full name. Good luck with everything, you are doing the right thing :smile:
Original post by Ciel.
wow... you should never do that. do you know how much trouble that person could get with their partner or family because of your actions? why would you intervene in their life anyway? unless they are a minor, that's straight up crazy

I have read enough of your posts on this website over the years to know your opinion on these sorts of matters, and to know that it is blinkered and wrong.

Just because someone isn't a minor, they don't deserve to be abused. In my case, I contacted the police about a vulnerable young adult who was being starved and financially abused by their parents. They won part of their money back in the small claims court, and they weren't left without food again. I consider their continued existence proof of having done the right thing.
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Original post by EVRoosevelt
I have read enough of your posts on this website over the years to know your opinion on these sorts of matters, and to know that it is blinkered and wrong.
Just because someone isn't a minor, they don't deserve to be abused. In my case, I contacted the police about a vulnerable young adult who was being starved and financially abused by their parents. They won part of their money back in the small claims court, and they weren't left without food again. I consider their continued existence proof of having done the right thing.

yeah, you probably got them into trouble for ever posting about their situation, too. but sure thing, hero.
Original post by EVRoosevelt
No problem in the least, I hope dearly that you hear from her soon.
I completely understand your concerns about her siblings and household (and it's admirable of you to think of the wider implications), but the way I perceive the matter is that her parents are the ones in the wrong, and as such, they have brought any consequences upon themselves: you bringing anything to the attention of the relevant authorities is doing a good deed, and leaving those capable of acting in full knowledge of the situation. 🙂
I was glad to read your update post. In my case, whilst I didn't know the address, I knew the college the person had attended, and I was able to point the police in that direction, in case the person's address was still on file, which I suppose it must have been. And the college could have given a surname, at which point there might be household records - I'm not sure if the Yellow Pages still exist anymore, but I suppose people's addresses can't be too hard to find for the police, when given a full name. Good luck with everything, you are doing the right thing :smile:

That actually helps a lot. So I contacted TSR again but this time I did it in a different way but actually got a reply. They said they can't share any information from user to user but will see what they can do. I'm not surprised about the fact they can't share anything from user to user but the fact they're cooperating gives me hope because if the police contact TSR then hopefully they can hand over any information they have which will massively help in tracking her down.

Thanks for your help and I'll keep you posted as things develop since you have gone through something similar so maybe you can help at any point I get stuck. I'm definitely going to keep in mind what you said about finding their place of education because all though she's not currently in university, she did get accepted into one close to where she lives so if we can find that university we can find out where she lives.
Original post by m_ahmed_w
That actually helps a lot. So I contacted TSR again but this time I did it in a different way but actually got a reply. They said they can't share any information from user to user but will see what they can do. I'm not surprised about the fact they can't share anything from user to user but the fact they're cooperating gives me hope because if the police contact TSR then hopefully they can hand over any information they have which will massively help in tracking her down.
Thanks for your help and I'll keep you posted as things develop since you have gone through something similar so maybe you can help at any point I get stuck. I'm definitely going to keep in mind what you said about finding their place of education because all though she's not currently in university, she did get accepted into one close to where she lives so if we can find that university we can find out where she lives.

So I did some digging and found her old posts and figured out which university she got into and which course she was enrolled on. I've contacted the Halo project and they told me to go straight to the police with this information so I did that. The police took so long to get things sorted that it was past 5pm and the universities office had closed so now they'll contact the university on Monday hopefully. To be honest the police didn't even really seem to be bothered and even though I had given them so much information that they could EASILY find her with, they were still saying we can't do much with this info since we don't have a surname or phone number. It's so frustrating because the police have the authority to get her personal details from the university and the fact I know her first name, background and the exact uni course switches she did along with her grades makes it so easy for them to identify her if they contact the uni. The Halo Project were so much more helpful than the police and honestly it's just so frustrating and annoying because it's been a week since I heard from her and next week she'll be moving to Sheffield which will then make it pretty much impossible to locate her. The police contacting the university in Scotland is literally our only hope and best bet at this point. I forgot to mention to them that if they contact TSR they might be able to get her email but I guess I'll just have to wait until they next ring me to tell them that.
Original post by m_ahmed_w
So I did some digging and found her old posts and figured out which university she got into and which course she was enrolled on. I've contacted the Halo project and they told me to go straight to the police with this information so I did that. The police took so long to get things sorted that it was past 5pm and the universities office had closed so now they'll contact the university on Monday hopefully. To be honest the police didn't even really seem to be bothered and even though I had given them so much information that they could EASILY find her with, they were still saying we can't do much with this info since we don't have a surname or phone number. It's so frustrating because the police have the authority to get her personal details from the university and the fact I know her first name, background and the exact uni course switches she did along with her grades makes it so easy for them to identify her if they contact the uni. The Halo Project were so much more helpful than the police and honestly it's just so frustrating and annoying because it's been a week since I heard from her and next week she'll be moving to Sheffield which will then make it pretty much impossible to locate her. The police contacting the university in Scotland is literally our only hope and best bet at this point. I forgot to mention to them that if they contact TSR they might be able to get her email but I guess I'll just have to wait until they next ring me to tell them that.

Okay so as I typed that I realised I should probably tell the police about the TSR thing so I rang them and I did and they said it's easier for them to get that stuff from the Uni so contacting TSR will be a backup. I feel like I was a bit harsh on the police in my last post and to be honest they are doing what they can. I guess I'm just really frustrated at the moment, that's all.
Original post by m_ahmed_w
Okay so as I typed that I realised I should probably tell the police about the TSR thing so I rang them and I did and they said it's easier for them to get that stuff from the Uni so contacting TSR will be a backup. I feel like I was a bit harsh on the police in my last post and to be honest they are doing what they can. I guess I'm just really frustrated at the moment, that's all.

I know of at least one serving police officer, who frequents this board... it may be an idea to run it by them first, so they can give you a gist of what's likely to happen?
Original post by m_ahmed_w
That actually helps a lot. So I contacted TSR again but this time I did it in a different way but actually got a reply. They said they can't share any information from user to user but will see what they can do. I'm not surprised about the fact they can't share anything from user to user but the fact they're cooperating gives me hope because if the police contact TSR then hopefully they can hand over any information they have which will massively help in tracking her down.
Thanks for your help and I'll keep you posted as things develop since you have gone through something similar so maybe you can help at any point I get stuck. I'm definitely going to keep in mind what you said about finding their place of education because all though she's not currently in university, she did get accepted into one close to where she lives so if we can find that university we can find out where she lives.

🙂 Thank you for your updates, and I'm very glad to have been able to help.

With regard to the police, and the new information you were able to give them, I wouldn't worry about them not seeming bothered. It's their duty and responsibility to look into issues raised, and even if they didn't seem as though they think it pressing (which is a shame, because having a good 'bedside manner', as it were, ought to be a part of all important professions), I am sure they will look into the matter as thoroughly as they can. In my case, I sent off this written explanation of everything that had happened, knowing how tenuous it seemed (given it was all online, on a forum, and behind usernames - and I only knew the rough area in which the person lived, thanks to the college), and they went and checked on the person the very next day: they acted far quicker, and to a far better degree than I had expected. But of course, all cases will be different, and I don't mean to say that this is exactly what will happen in your scenario.

It could be the case that the police don't want to get your hopes up - and they do have to speak tentatively, as there's never a guarantee of finding someone - but I agree, with the information you've given, it should be quite simple and straightforward. But hopefully that means that when they get to looking into the matter, behind closed doors, that will be apparent to them.

I should say as well, in my case, I only knew the police had acted, because the person mentioned it to me. I was never updated again by the police - I don't know if your case will be different, but they might perceive it as a matter of you providing some information, and them looking into it, with no need to update you.
And, as another note, I would add that there are lots of unknowns to your situation. I know you know that (and I don't mean to be irritating!), but what I mean to say is, sometimes things happen that seem incredibly unlikely - perhaps she decided to delete TSR of her own volition, fearing her parents would check her phone, and knowing she'd re-download it in a week or two. Or, perhaps she smashed her phone, and is waiting for a repair / replacement. Of course, with the information about her parents, and with the worries you had, I believe you've done exactly the right thing in alerting the authorities - all I mean to say is, with so many unknowns, there could be a far simpler explanation to everything, and maybe all is alright (or, as alright as it can be with those sort of parents). But of course, we can't know either way.

Whatever the case, you have acted sensibly and quickly 🙂
Original post by EVRoosevelt
🙂 Thank you for your updates, and I'm very glad to have been able to help.
With regard to the police, and the new information you were able to give them, I wouldn't worry about them not seeming bothered. It's their duty and responsibility to look into issues raised, and even if they didn't seem as though they think it pressing (which is a shame, because having a good 'bedside manner', as it were, ought to be a part of all important professions), I am sure they will look into the matter as thoroughly as they can. In my case, I sent off this written explanation of everything that had happened, knowing how tenuous it seemed (given it was all online, on a forum, and behind usernames - and I only knew the rough area in which the person lived, thanks to the college), and they went and checked on the person the very next day: they acted far quicker, and to a far better degree than I had expected. But of course, all cases will be different, and I don't mean to say that this is exactly what will happen in your scenario.
It could be the case that the police don't want to get your hopes up - and they do have to speak tentatively, as there's never a guarantee of finding someone - but I agree, with the information you've given, it should be quite simple and straightforward. But hopefully that means that when they get to looking into the matter, behind closed doors, that will be apparent to them.
I should say as well, in my case, I only knew the police had acted, because the person mentioned it to me. I was never updated again by the police - I don't know if your case will be different, but they might perceive it as a matter of you providing some information, and them looking into it, with no need to update you.
And, as another note, I would add that there are lots of unknowns to your situation. I know you know that (and I don't mean to be irritating!), but what I mean to say is, sometimes things happen that seem incredibly unlikely - perhaps she decided to delete TSR of her own volition, fearing her parents would check her phone, and knowing she'd re-download it in a week or two. Or, perhaps she smashed her phone, and is waiting for a repair / replacement. Of course, with the information about her parents, and with the worries you had, I believe you've done exactly the right thing in alerting the authorities - all I mean to say is, with so many unknowns, there could be a far simpler explanation to everything, and maybe all is alright (or, as alright as it can be with those sort of parents). But of course, we can't know either way.
Whatever the case, you have acted sensibly and quickly 🙂

Thanks for the reassurance, I was in a lot of doubt last night.

The police did say they'd update me as things go along so I hope that's the case, especially if they plan on visiting her at her house in which case I'd need to make them aware of some things.

It's just that deleting the app or not replying for a while would be understandable but considering her parents suspicion on Friday coupled with the lack of response from Saturday night onwards and then leading to an ACCOUNT deletion on Tuesday just makes me worry that it's not her who's deleted it but in fact someone else who's found out about her messages since we've been speaking for months at this point and nothing like this has ever happened. What adds to it as well is that I might genuinely be the only person who was aware of her situation since she mentioned that her parents made her change her phone number not too long ago which meant she couldn't really contact any of her friends anymore.

With everything in mind, I guess you're right and I did do the correct thing. I guess I just need to sit tight now and hopefully everything is sorted by Monday night if the police get the information they need from the university in the morning or even better she messages me tonight saying everything is okay for now.

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