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Guy who doesn't come out of his room

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Original post by Ciel.
if someone is determined to die, there's no stopping them. i don't think that's the case here, at least not at the moment.
i just think it's messed up what they did. they should've been more open and direct with him before taking such a drastic step


This isn't drastic in this situation. There was no other option - they couldn't speak to him. It's not at all messed up.
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This isn't drastic in this situation. There was no other option - they couldn't speak to him. It's not at all messed up.

of course it is drastic. what is it with people's obsession with reporting everything? it's insane. if you don't have guts to ask someone directly, leave them alone. he's an adult man.
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Original post by Ciel.
of course it is drastic. what is it with people's obsession with reporting everything? it's insane. if you don't have guts to ask someone directly, leave them alone. he's an adult man.


He has stayed in his room for two weeks, apparently without eating. They couldn't ask him directly but they gave him a respectful way to communicate with them, showing care. He could seriously need help.
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Original post by Username123ab
Leave him alone? Having been a quiet/reclusive person my whole life, people acting like there's "something wrong" with me pushes me further away from them. He doesn't have to acknowledge a random stranger putting a note under his door and reporting him to the uni for literally just existing in his own space is strange behaviour in itself. Give the poor guy a break.

Being quiet and reclusive is one thing, not eating is another. His flatmates aren’t begging him to be their best buddy, they just want to know that he is coping, because believe it or not, living in a flat with someone that has MH issues is stressful for all concerned. Never knowing what might happen to the person sharing your living space is not easy. They are not « reporting » someone for bad behaviour, but « signalling » to the relevant authorities that someone might need help.
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He has stayed in his room for two weeks, apparently without eating. They couldn't ask him directly but they gave him a respectful way to communicate with them, showing care. He could seriously need help.

that's normal for people with depression... minus the eating part ofc, but how do they know he hasn't been eating? are they monitoring him 24/7? some people prepare food in their own room, like instant noodles or whatever. or order. unless they're monitoring him 24/7, they have no way of knowing this.
Original post by Euapp
Being quiet and reclusive is one thing, not eating is another. His flatmates aren’t begging him to be their best buddy, they just want to know that he is coping, because believe it or not, living in a flat with someone that has MH issues is stressful for all concerned. Never knowing what might happen to the person sharing your living space is not easy. They are not « reporting » someone for bad behaviour, but « signalling » to the relevant authorities that someone might need help.

How is it "stressful" for someone to stay in their room. Stressing about what a random person is doing in their own living space is weird behaviour. What if he just doesn't want to be friends with them? Should that be illegal? And I highly doubt he hasn't eaten for 2 weeks, especially since OP is only going off the fact that he's had food in the fridge for two weeks. He's probably just getting takeaway and eating it in his room.
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Original post by Euapp
Being quiet and reclusive is one thing, not eating is another. His flatmates aren’t begging him to be their best buddy, they just want to know that he is coping, because believe it or not, living in a flat with someone that has MH issues is stressful for all concerned. Never knowing what might happen to the person sharing your living space is not easy. They are not « reporting » someone for bad behaviour, but « signalling » to the relevant authorities that someone might need help.

the issue is not giving him a simple warning. hey we are concerned, please just let us know if you're ok or we might have to report this bc we're worried. that simple
There's nothing drastic about asking the wellbeing team to check in on someone. That's literally what they do.

"We've noticed you might be struggling to settle in, is there anything we can help with?" is hardly a kicking the door down intervention.
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Original post by Ciel.
the issue is not giving him a simple warning. hey we are concerned, please just let us know if you're ok or we might have to report this bc we're worried. that simple

As I said, I would have spoken to them first before going any further but his safety is at the end of the day the most important issue.
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Original post by Admit-One
There's nothing drastic about asking the wellbeing team to check in on someone. That's literally what they do.
"We've noticed you might be struggling to settle in, is there anything we can help with?" is hardly a kicking the door down intervention.

Thank you!!
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Original post by Admit-One
There's nothing drastic about asking the wellbeing team to check in on someone. That's literally what they do.
"We've noticed you might be struggling to settle in, is there anything we can help with?" is hardly a kicking the door down intervention.

i would find that humiliating. that instead of trying to ask me directly again, make some effort, someone reported me... dealt with a similar issue with our neighbour. and i honestly feel like its usually done out of spite. but maybe that's just me.
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Original post by Euapp
As I said, I would have spoken to them first before going any further but his safety is at the end of the day the most important issue.

yeah, right. at least have the guts to admit you picked the easiest way out. at least now you don't have to deal with any consequences, right?
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Original post by Ciel.
yeah, right. at least have the guts to admit you picked the easiest way out. at least now you don't have to deal with any consequences, right?

I’m not the room mate just a TSR poster , but what is very consterning is that all those that try to help are being told that what they did to try to help was wrong and the guy at the root of all this worry is a poor victim that is being picked on!! THEY ARE TRYING TO HELP!!Being indifferent and leaving a potentially fragile fresher with no support network would be utterly uncaring. You trying a guilt trip on those that are only thinking of someone else’s well being is not helpful!!
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Original post by Euapp
I’m not the room mate just a TSR poster , but what is very consterning is that all those that try to help are being told that what they did to try to help was wrong and the guy at the root of all this worry is a poor victim that is being picked on!! THEY ARE TRYING TO HELP!!Being indifferent and leaving a potentially fragile fresher with no support network would be utterly uncaring. You trying a guilt trip on those that are only thinking of someone else’s well being is not helpful!!

they're not really helping though. just shifting the responsibility onto someone else. i get that not everyone agrees with my, but in my personal opinion, if your help is potentially going to cause someone more harm than good, then just don't help them at all...
Original post by Ciel.
they're not really helping though. just shifting the responsibility onto someone else. i get that not everyone agrees with my, but in my personal opinion, if your help is potentially going to cause someone more harm than good, then just don't help them at all...

I don't get why they didn't just knock on his door in the first place. Two weeks went by and no one else in the flat thought, oh maybe I'll knock and introduce myself. Plus assuming they aren't eating because of the content in the fridge?
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Original post by Ciel.
they're not really helping though. just shifting the responsibility onto someone else. i get that not everyone agrees with my, but in my personal opinion, if your help is potentially going to cause someone more harm than good, then just don't help them at all...

The others in the flat are mostly freshers imo. They’re probably on their own for the first time and are trying to find their own feet. Someone with MH issues should not be their entire responsibility so shifting part of that burden onto the service that is dedicated to it seems a reasonable reaction and the sensible thing to do. At some point physical integrity becomes more important than someone else being momentarily embarrassed. And as @Admit-One has said any intervention will probably in a first instance be only be someone knocking on his door and asking if everything is OK. He won’t be walking around with a sign on his back for all to see stating that his MH is fragile and the university services are keeping an eye on him. So stating that he’ll probably want to leave uni afterwards is a bit overdramatising. On the contrary he might be pleased that the situation is being handled by the welfare office because he himself didn’t have the confidence to go and find help on his own.
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Original post by Euapp
The others in the flat are mostly freshers imo. They’re probably on their own for the first time and are trying to find their own feet. Someone with MH issues should not be their entire responsibility so shifting part of that burden onto the service that is dedicated to it seems a reasonable reaction and the sensible thing to do. At some point physical integrity becomes more important than someone else being momentarily embarrassed. And as @Admit-One has said any intervention will probably in a first instance be only be someone knocking on his door and asking if everything is OK. He won’t be walking around with a sign on his back for all to see stating that his MH is fragile and the university services are keeping an eye on him. So stating that he’ll probably want to leave uni afterwards is a bit overdramatising. On the contrary he might be pleased that the situation is being handled by the welfare office because he himself didn’t have the confidence to go and find help on his own.

oh, i'm sure he will be pleased......... will probably be the talk of uni halls, too. do you guys live in some sort of alternate universe or something...
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Original post by Schnauzerquester
I don't get why they didn't just knock on his door in the first place. Two weeks went by and no one else in the flat thought, oh maybe I'll knock and introduce myself. Plus assuming they aren't eating because of the content in the fridge?

i think they knocked once, and then left a note, which he ignored
Original post by Euapp
The others in the flat are mostly freshers imo. They’re probably on their own for the first time and are trying to find their own feet. Someone with MH issues should not be their entire responsibility so shifting part of that burden onto the service that is dedicated to it seems a reasonable reaction and the sensible thing to do. At some point physical integrity becomes more important than someone else being momentarily embarrassed. And as @Admit-One has said any intervention will probably in a first instance be only be someone knocking on his door and asking if everything is OK. He won’t be walking around with a sign on his back for all to see stating that his MH is fragile and the university services are keeping an eye on him. So stating that he’ll probably want to leave uni afterwards is a bit overdramatising. On the contrary he might be pleased that the situation is being handled by the welfare office because he himself didn’t have the confidence to go and find help on his own.

Why did they use post-it note under the door and not just knock and introduce themselves? Going off the info provided in this thread, it seems they haven't made an attempt to do the normal thing of knocking on his door at all.

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