How long can most people go without binging?
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Original post by Anonymous
18.4 is underweight, 18.5 is the start of the healthy weight range
I'm not totally surprised, but in terms of splitting hairs that's quite an effort. It was a simple yes or no question, you either accept your weight is on the literal borderline of being unhealthy (on a graph no less) or you don't and then need to bend the truth or deflect to avoid the question.
Original post by StriderHort
I'm not totally surprised, but in terms of splitting hairs that's quite an effort. It was a simple yes or no question, you either accept your weight is on the literal borderline of being unhealthy (on a graph no less) or you don't and then need to bend the truth or deflect to avoid the question.
When I put my measurements into the NHS BMI calculator it comes up with "you are a healthy weight", if I was 1 pound lighter I would be underweight but still not to the point that any professional would take it seriously if I was complaining of disordered eating, but I am working on resolving the issues myself
Are you slamming 50 units of alcohol into your 6 stone 10 body every week? With a lot of that concentrated into a week-end binge?
Are you consuming other substances? Inparticular anything where the recommendation is that you don't mix it with alcohol?
There may well be a culture of binge boozing in the UK. Along with taking other mind / mood altering substances. And binge eating.
So that your lifestyle in these respects may be seen as "normal" in your social circle.
"Normal" shouldn't come into your decision making as to whether you should do anything. "What's best?" or "What's better?" should.
What's better than binge drinking? Drinking water instead. For starters.
Binge eating? Depends what you're binge eating. Binge eating cream doughnuts? Not good. Binge eating fresh fruit, eg mango and melon? Totally fine.
Are you consuming other substances? Inparticular anything where the recommendation is that you don't mix it with alcohol?
There may well be a culture of binge boozing in the UK. Along with taking other mind / mood altering substances. And binge eating.
So that your lifestyle in these respects may be seen as "normal" in your social circle.
"Normal" shouldn't come into your decision making as to whether you should do anything. "What's best?" or "What's better?" should.
What's better than binge drinking? Drinking water instead. For starters.
Binge eating? Depends what you're binge eating. Binge eating cream doughnuts? Not good. Binge eating fresh fruit, eg mango and melon? Totally fine.
Original post by Dunnig Kruger
Are you slamming 50 units of alcohol into your 6 stone 10 body every week? With a lot of that concentrated into a week-end binge?
Are you consuming other substances? Inparticular anything where the recommendation is that you don't mix it with alcohol?
There may well be a culture of binge boozing in the UK. Along with taking other mind / mood altering substances. And binge eating.
So that your lifestyle in these respects may be seen as "normal" in your social circle.
"Normal" shouldn't come into your decision making as to whether you should do anything. "What's best?" or "What's better?" should.
What's better than binge drinking? Drinking water instead. For starters.
Binge eating? Depends what you're binge eating. Binge eating cream doughnuts? Not good. Binge eating fresh fruit, eg mango and melon? Totally fine.
Are you consuming other substances? Inparticular anything where the recommendation is that you don't mix it with alcohol?
There may well be a culture of binge boozing in the UK. Along with taking other mind / mood altering substances. And binge eating.
So that your lifestyle in these respects may be seen as "normal" in your social circle.
"Normal" shouldn't come into your decision making as to whether you should do anything. "What's best?" or "What's better?" should.
What's better than binge drinking? Drinking water instead. For starters.
Binge eating? Depends what you're binge eating. Binge eating cream doughnuts? Not good. Binge eating fresh fruit, eg mango and melon? Totally fine.
If it was as simple as just not doing it I'd have already done that by now lol
Original post by Anonymous
Because of my body type and the way my body stores fat I look heavier than I am so a BMI of 18.5 for me is the same as a BMI of maybe 22 for anyone else
This makes no sense whatsoever. BMI is nothing to do with how you look.
Going back to the original question, I'd have to say that most adults don't binge, (in the way that term is used in relation to ED's and alcohol dependancy issues). Most people probably over-indulge once in a while, (too many drinks when catching up with old friends, or overdoing it at Xmas or at a buffet), but I don't think either stray into the realm of true binging.
The nearest you'd come would be younger people getting regularly trollied when they first have the social and financial means. But honestly I think most folk either learn their limits, run out of cash, or just get bored of it. Yeah, there's a lot of people out on a Friday/Saturday night, but the % of them getting truly obliterated is reasonably low.
Original post by Admit-One
This makes no sense whatsoever. BMI is nothing to do with how you look.
Going back to the original question, I'd have to say that most adults don't binge, (in the way that term is used in relation to ED's and alcohol dependancy issues). Most people probably over-indulge once in a while, (too many drinks when catching up with old friends, or overdoing it at Xmas or at a buffet), but I don't think either stray into the realm of true binging.
The nearest you'd come would be younger people getting regularly trollied when they first have the social and financial means. But honestly I think most folk either learn their limits, run out of cash, or just get bored of it. Yeah, there's a lot of people out on a Friday/Saturday night, but the % of them getting truly obliterated is reasonably low.
Going back to the original question, I'd have to say that most adults don't binge, (in the way that term is used in relation to ED's and alcohol dependancy issues). Most people probably over-indulge once in a while, (too many drinks when catching up with old friends, or overdoing it at Xmas or at a buffet), but I don't think either stray into the realm of true binging.
The nearest you'd come would be younger people getting regularly trollied when they first have the social and financial means. But honestly I think most folk either learn their limits, run out of cash, or just get bored of it. Yeah, there's a lot of people out on a Friday/Saturday night, but the % of them getting truly obliterated is reasonably low.
Because of my body type I have to maintain a much lower weight and eat much less than most people in order to not be fat and the restrictive diet results in the binge urges which I resist for as long as possible then give in to. And with the drinking, I wouldn't say I get "truly obliterated". If I'm drinking normally I have around 6-8 units a night and never binge and when I'm trying to stop/reduce drinking I will have around 4 days to a week completely sober then will "binge" and have about 20 units in one night. Plenty of people drink 20 units of alcohol on weekly nights out.
Original post by Anonymous
If it was as simple as just not doing it I'd have already done that by now lol
It is simple.
What it requires is a bit of knowledge, which you have. And some self discipline, which you could have.
Original post by Dunnig Kruger
It is simple.
What it requires is a bit of knowledge, which you have. And some self discipline, which you could have.
What it requires is a bit of knowledge, which you have. And some self discipline, which you could have.
Wow they should give you a Nobel prize in medicine seeing as you've found the cure for every kind of addiction or mental health issue - just stop doing it!
Original post by Anonymous
And with the drinking, I wouldn't say I get "truly obliterated".
It wasn't a comment on your drinking, I was trying to equate a drinking level with the vague term "binging".
Original post by Anonymous
Plenty of people drink 20 units of alcohol on weekly nights out.
Do they? That's the equivalent of 10 decent strength pints in one session. Again, students aren't exactly an atypical group for moderate drinking and most people do grow out of it.
Original post by Admit-One
It wasn't a comment on your drinking, I was trying to equate a drinking level with the vague term "binging".
Do they? That's the equivalent of 10 decent strength pints in one session. Again, students aren't exactly an atypical group for moderate drinking and most people do grow out of it.
Do they? That's the equivalent of 10 decent strength pints in one session. Again, students aren't exactly an atypical group for moderate drinking and most people do grow out of it.
Didn't say you were commenting on my drinking specifically, the comment about not getting obliterated was intended to point out that it may have been inaccurate for me to refer to my drinking as "binging" as it probably doesn't reach high enough volumes in one sitting, unlike the eating can do
Original post by Anonymous
Because of my body type I have to maintain a much lower weight and eat much less than most people in order to not be fat and the restrictive diet results in the binge urges which I resist for as long as possible then give in to. And with the drinking, I wouldn't say I get "truly obliterated". If I'm drinking normally I have around 6-8 units a night and never binge and when I'm trying to stop/reduce drinking I will have around 4 days to a week completely sober then will "binge" and have about 20 units in one night. Plenty of people drink 20 units of alcohol on weekly nights out.
There has been a lot of work done on why BMI is problematic and does not work for everyone. I can suggest the Maintenance Phase podcast: https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/maintenance-phase/id1535408667?i=1000530850955
NPR on BMI: https://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=106268439
I suggest trying to seek more professional help about this, such as by going to a counsellor or GP, or looking for help here. https://helpfinder.beateatingdisorders.org.uk/?utm_source=beat&utm_medium=website&utm_campaign=helpfinder2023&utm_content=notification-bar This obviously doesn’t mean you do have an ED, but these professionals will be more able to offer help than people on TSR.
Original post by elilast
Obviously, strangers on the internet can’t diagnose you with anything. But if you get these food cravings with the amount of food you’re currently eating, maybe it really is just that you need to eat more. Personally I don’t get the urge to ‘binge eat’, I just sometimes get cravings for a a particular type of food but I never want to eat loads because I get full.
There has been a lot of work done on why BMI is problematic and does not work for everyone. I can suggest the Maintenance Phase podcast: https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/maintenance-phase/id1535408667?i=1000530850955
NPR on BMI: https://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=106268439
I suggest trying to seek more professional help about this, such as by going to a counsellor or GP, or looking for help here. https://helpfinder.beateatingdisorders.org.uk/?utm_source=beat&utm_medium=website&utm_campaign=helpfinder2023&utm_content=notification-bar This obviously doesn’t mean you do have an ED, but these professionals will be more able to offer help than people on TSR.
There has been a lot of work done on why BMI is problematic and does not work for everyone. I can suggest the Maintenance Phase podcast: https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/maintenance-phase/id1535408667?i=1000530850955
NPR on BMI: https://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=106268439
I suggest trying to seek more professional help about this, such as by going to a counsellor or GP, or looking for help here. https://helpfinder.beateatingdisorders.org.uk/?utm_source=beat&utm_medium=website&utm_campaign=helpfinder2023&utm_content=notification-bar This obviously doesn’t mean you do have an ED, but these professionals will be more able to offer help than people on TSR.
I’m not going to be back in the UK until may so I’m not seeking any kind of professional support until at least then and I’m using the time until then to think about whether it would be worthwhile at all for me to speak to a professional as I don’t have anything so indisputably wrong that it would make professional support a requirement and I don’t particularly like to talk about my feelings or mental health in person so the aspect of it being cathartic or having someone to hear me vent can be achieved online.
Original post by Anonymous
Because of my body type I have to maintain a much lower weight and eat much less than most people in order to not be fat and the restrictive diet results in the binge urges which I resist for as long as possible then give in to. And with the drinking, I wouldn't say I get "truly obliterated". If I'm drinking normally I have around 6-8 units a night and never binge and when I'm trying to stop/reduce drinking I will have around 4 days to a week completely sober then will "binge" and have about 20 units in one night. Plenty of people drink 20 units of alcohol on weekly nights out.
Feel free to ignore, but from my experience of having had an ED, once you stop restricting and eat enough calories for your body (which is clearly more than 1200 in your case), you stop having urges to binge. You are not eating enough, it is that simple whether you like it or not.
Re alcohol, more than 6 units in a single session counts as bone-drinking for a female. So you are binge-drinking every time you drinking, just FYI.
Original post by Anonymous
Feel free to ignore, but from my experience of having had an ED, once you stop restricting and eat enough calories for your body (which is clearly more than 1200 in your case), you stop having urges to binge. You are not eating enough, it is that simple whether you like it or not.
Re alcohol, more than 6 units in a single session counts as bone-drinking for a female. So you are binge-drinking every time you drinking, just FYI.
Re alcohol, more than 6 units in a single session counts as bone-drinking for a female. So you are binge-drinking every time you drinking, just FYI.
*counts as binge-drinking
Original post by Anonymous
Feel free to ignore, but from my experience of having had an ED, once you stop restricting and eat enough calories for your body (which is clearly more than 1200 in your case), you stop having urges to binge. You are not eating enough, it is that simple whether you like it or not.
Re alcohol, more than 6 units in a single session counts as bone-drinking for a female. So you are binge-drinking every time you drinking, just FYI.
Re alcohol, more than 6 units in a single session counts as bone-drinking for a female. So you are binge-drinking every time you drinking, just FYI.
I've read that it's six standard drinks (so 12 units) in three hours to be classed as binge drinking
Original post by Anonymous
I've read that it's six standard drinks (so 12 units) in three hours to be classed as binge drinking
Nope. From the gov.uk website: "The technical definition of binge drinking is drinking 6+ units (women) or 8+ units (men) in a single session"
Original post by Anonymous
I've read that it's six standard drinks (so 12 units) in three hours to be classed as binge drinking
You are quite wide of the mark there.
Some facts and figures for you below. In 2022, 16% of adults reported binge drinking the prior week.
But, binge drinking is defined as 8 units in a session for men, and 6 for women. You are talking about 20 units at a time on a regular basis.
As I say, some interesting reading here:
https://www.drinkaware.co.uk/research/alcohol-facts-and-data/alcohol-consumption-uk
Original post by Admit-One
You are quite wide of the mark there.
Some facts and figures for you below. In 2022, 16% of adults reported binge drinking the prior week.
But, binge drinking is defined as 8 units in a session for men, and 6 for women. You are talking about 20 units at a time on a regular basis.
As I say, some interesting reading here:
https://www.drinkaware.co.uk/research/alcohol-facts-and-data/alcohol-consumption-uk
Some facts and figures for you below. In 2022, 16% of adults reported binge drinking the prior week.
But, binge drinking is defined as 8 units in a session for men, and 6 for women. You are talking about 20 units at a time on a regular basis.
As I say, some interesting reading here:
https://www.drinkaware.co.uk/research/alcohol-facts-and-data/alcohol-consumption-uk
I’ve already read all the information on drink aware and similar sites, I know I’m drinking at a harmful level
Original post by Anonymous
I’ve already read all the information on drink aware and similar sites, I know I’m drinking at a harmful level
The thread title is a bit redundant if you’ve already read up on the answer.
Original post by Admit-One
The thread title is a bit redundant if you’ve already read up on the answer.
I know my drinking is considered to be at a harmful level, I also know that most other uni students, and many other people, drink the same, if not more, than I do. Few people live a perfect 100% healthy lifestyle and never slip up. My question was whether it's normal to feel the cravings to binge eat/drink as often as I do.
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