law in uk universities

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i was wondering what the best universities are to study law in the uk - also is it easier to get into oxford for law than cambridge or no?
my top unis are - Cambridge, UCL, LSE, Kings, Durham and probably Warwick as a safe option
i got 9998888877 for my gcses, i hope these are good enough (like is it even worth applying to oxbridge)
havent got my predicted a levels yet (im doing history physics and maths)
pls someone give me advice on the best unis for law thank uuuu!!! also which uni i should put as my top/best option cuz im lowkey stressing aha

(edited 9 months ago)

Reply 1

McGinger

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You would have to choose Unis appropriate for your A level predicted grades - and any idea of the 'best' Uni for any subject is a bit pointless, its all about the best Uni for you, the course that interest you the most, the Uni environment that you find the most comfortable etc.

Whilst some people thrive at Unis like Cambridge, Bristol etc, others find the high pressure oppressive - and this has nothing to do with intellectual ability. At the end of Year 12 you need to go to some Uni Open Days, listen to the subject presentation for Law, look around, ask questions, and decide if you want to do Law, and where you want to do it.

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mike23mike

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Look at various sites that can tell you the best unis for Law:

Complete university guide
Guardian good university guide

There will be a slew of comments that such guides are useless but I disagree. The guides differ in their ranking of universities because the assessment criteria differ but for someone in your shoes, they are a useful aid.

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McGinger

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Original post by mike23mike

Look at various sites that can tell you the best unis for Law:
Complete university guide
Guardian good university guide
There will be a slew of comments that such guides are useless but I disagree. The guides differ in their ranking of universities because the assessment criteria differ but for someone in your shoes, they are a useful aid.

They can never tell an applicant if they will like the course or enjoy being at that Uni.

There is no substitute for actually going to a Uni and listening to subject presentations, and seeing what a Uni 'feels' like, and making a decision about what suits each individual. Generations of students manage to pick a Uni long before newspapers started making a fast-buck with these 'listings' by doing precisely this.

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zenopu

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Original post by el168

i was wondering what the best universities are to study law in the uk - also is it easier to get into oxford for law than cambridge or no?
my top unis are - Cambridge, UCL, LSE, Kings, Durham and probably Warwick as a safe option
i got 9998888877 for my gcses, i hope these are good enough (like is it even worth applying to oxbridge)
havent got my predicted a levels yet (im doing history physics and maths)
pls someone give me advice on the best unis for law thank uuuu!!! also which uni i should put as my top/best option cuz im lowkey stressing aha

oxford or cambridge? having gone through the application process and currently studying law at cambridge, i think this is a good way to put it:

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oxford = more selective in shortlisting applicants for interview > after interviews ~50% chance of receiving an offer > lower offer requirements for A-levels / IB

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cambridge = less selective about interviewees (interviews ~70% of qualified applicants) > after interviews ~10% chance of receiving an offer > much higher offer requirements for A-levels / IB

while they're both equally competitive, it's important to note that they're more/less difficult at different stages; so, you can understand it as: easier at the start for cambridge (more likely to be interviewed), easier at the end for oxford (higher chance of offer upon interview shortlisting & lower offer requirements).

there is a lot of info online comparing oxford & cambridge law admissions - i myself relied on good ol google.

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Stiffy Byng

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Original post by zenopu

oxford or cambridge? having gone through the application process and currently studying law at cambridge, i think this is a good way to put it:

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oxford = more selective in shortlisting applicants for interview > after interviews ~50% chance of receiving an offer > lower entry requirements for A-levels / IB

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cambridge = less selective about interviewees (interviews ~70% of qualified applicants) > after interviews ~10% chance of receiving an offer > much higher entry requirements for A-levels and the IB

while they're both equally competitive, i'd like to add that they're more/less difficult at various stages; so, you can understand it as: easier at the beginning for cambridge (you can get further in the process at least), easier at the end for oxford (higher chance of offer upon interview shortlisting & lower entry requirements).
there is a lot of info online comparing oxford & cambridge law admissions - i myself relied on good ol google.

I add to this very helpful post that the best sources of information about admissions to Oxford and Cambridge are the universities themselves, and their constituent colleges, and not the grapevine here and elsewhere.

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Stiffy Byng

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Original post by mike23mike

Look at various sites that can tell you the best unis for Law:
Complete university guide
Guardian good university guide
There will be a slew of comments that such guides are useless but I disagree. The guides differ in their ranking of universities because the assessment criteria differ but for someone in your shoes, they are a useful aid.

Here is one such comment. The various ranking systems are thrown together without any reliable methodology. They sometimes present as qualitative measurements which are quantitative, and they include a lot of subjective opinion. They're worthless.

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el168

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Original post by zenopu

oxford or cambridge? having gone through the application process and currently studying law at cambridge, i think this is a good way to put it:

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oxford = more selective in shortlisting applicants for interview > after interviews ~50% chance of receiving an offer > lower offer requirements for A-levels / IB

•

cambridge = less selective about interviewees (interviews ~70% of qualified applicants) > after interviews ~10% chance of receiving an offer > much higher offer requirements for A-levels / IB

while they're both equally competitive, it's important to note that they're more/less difficult at different stages; so, you can understand it as: easier at the start for cambridge (more likely to be interviewed), easier at the end for oxford (higher chance of offer upon interview shortlisting & lower offer requirements).
there is a lot of info online comparing oxford & cambridge law admissions - i myself relied on good ol google.

thank you so so much for this! i just wanted to ask how your application went on for cambridge?
do u remember any general ideas of the questions they asked you?

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zenopu

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Original post by el168

thank you so so much for this! i just wanted to ask how your application went on for cambridge?
do u remember any general ideas of the questions they asked you?

my application status is in the first line of my reply.

and second, i cannot disclose my exact questions - and you'd be better off researching on youtube anyway - i found jesus college oxford's law mock interview to be the most accurate (and publicly accessible) representation thus far.

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mike23mike

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Original post by Stiffy Byng

Here is one such comment. The various ranking systems are thrown together without any reliable methodology. They sometimes present as qualitative measurements which are quantitative, and they include a lot of subjective opinion. They're worthless.

I struggle to agree with your interpretation. For example, Guardian good university guide uses criteria such as 'satisfaction with teaching', 'satisfaction with feedback' and 'staff-student ratio' which are all factually collected from reliable data sources like the National Student Survey (NSS) and from universities directly. The Guardian has a small army of researchers spending months gathering this information - its not just 'made up'.

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Stiffy Byng

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Original post by mike23mike

I struggle to agree with your interpretation. For example, Guardian good university guide uses criteria such as 'satisfaction with teaching', 'satisfaction with feedback' and 'staff-student ratio' which are all factually collected from reliable data sources like the National Student Survey (NSS) and from universities directly. The Guardian has a small army of researchers spending months gathering this information - its not just 'made up'.

The first two headings you mention are simply reports of subjective opinions by self-selecting datasets of students (those who bother to reply to surveys), and the third is just a number.

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mike23mike

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Original post by Stiffy Byng

The first two headings you mention are simply reports of subjective opinions by self-selecting datasets of students (those who bother to reply to surveys), and the third is just a number.

Ok, lets agree to disagree.

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Stiffy Byng

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Original post by mike23mike

Ok, lets agree to disagree.

There's a poster here who bangs on about the "research quality" scores in one of the rankings. It turns out that "research quality" (a thing hardly measurable) is calculated by counting papers. In other words, it's a meaningless number. My point is that if you look behind the headings you may see that was is supposedly being measured hasn't been measured in any meaningful way. It is easy to tell which is the most successful football team and who is the most successful Grand Prix driver by looking at the tables which are based on winning matches and races. There is no equivalent for universities.

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