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Can I still ask her out if she has a date?

Feel like my whole world just shattered before me. I was literally just about to ask her out on a date today, and within moments of getting ready to ask she brought up that a guy has invited her out for a meal and was asking me whether I thought it was a date or not. I actually can’t believe my luck. Is it still worth asking her out, or should I just leave it and move on.

Why does the universe just like to **** on me sometimes. Anyone have any similar experiences so I know that I’m not the only one with god awful luck? Is it worth still trying to pursue this?

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Leave it. She's interested enough in this guy to have accepted an invitation to go out with him. Even if it doesn't work out between them, she didn't turn him down because she'd rather spend time with you.

Reply 2

well, most people date multiple people in the initial stages so go ahead

Reply 3

Original post by Surnia
Leave it. She's interested enough in this guy to have accepted an invitation to go out with him. Even if it doesn't work out between them, she didn't turn him down because she'd rather spend time with you.

I suppose that’s a good point actually. I just wish I’d asked a few days earlier. Do you reckon if things don’t work out I should then shoot my shot, or should I just leave it completely?

Reply 4

Original post by Anonymous
Feel like my whole world just shattered before me. I was literally just about to ask her out on a date today, and within moments of getting ready to ask she brought up that a guy has invited her out for a meal and was asking me whether I thought it was a date or not. I actually can’t believe my luck. Is it still worth asking her out, or should I just leave it and move on.
Why does the universe just like to **** on me sometimes. Anyone have any similar experiences so I know that I’m not the only one with god awful luck? Is it worth still trying to pursue this?

Just rock up to her (jacket over shoulder), flash your cheekiest grin, then say, "Why you dating a zero, when you could be with a hero?", , kick the jukebox to play N*Sync- Girlfriend and she'll drop him like a hot potato and be yours in a second. Job done 😎

OK, serious answer now, I think the important lesson to take is that hot / desirable girls are noticed by everyone... and if you like her, you can bet that there are at least 1-2 other guys who've also clocked her. Therefore, it's a better idea to show your interests early on, so you don't give another guy a chance to get in before you (yes, I've had this before, so I know how much it sucks). The other thing is, if you ask her out quickly, then it's not so bad if she says "No" (for whatever reason), as you haven't built it up in your head so much.

Well that's a lesson to take from this... what should you do about this girl now? One date doesn't exactly equate to a marriage proposal. At least wait until they've had their date before trying anything... it may not work out, in which case you can approach her again. On the other hand, if she does seem to like him, then yes, move on (but bear in mind what I said about moving quicker next time).

Original post by Surnia
Leave it. She's interested enough in this guy to have accepted an invitation to go out with him. Even if it doesn't work out between them, she didn't turn him down because she'd rather spend time with you.

TBF, did she know that the OP was interested in her? We don't know how excited she was about the date... after all, her saying "yes" can mean anything from "You'll do for now" to "You're the one I want to be with".

Reply 5

Great advice from Ciel and Old Skool Freak about being positive and going for it and not procrastinating.

To which I'd add: don't live with a scarcity mindset, live with an abundance mindset.

You shouldn't feel like your whole world has shattered because of 1 setback with 1 potential girlfriend. You should be aiming to set up an active dating sales funnel. Where you're breaking the ice with lots of women you're attracted to.

There are a lot of wonderful women out there. Don't get fixated on one till one is very much fixated on you.

It also seems that you're taking yourself and your life too seriously. Especially the negative stuff. Lighten up! Take yourself less seriously, especially the bad things and the things that stress and worry you. This is a change you can make overnight. By simply taking a very zoomed out look at your life and deciding that from now on you'll be a lot less serious.
In doing so you will make yourself more attractive to women.

Reply 6

Original post by Old Skool Freak
Just rock up to her (jacket over shoulder), flash your cheekiest grin, then say, "Why you dating a zero, when you could be with a hero?", , kick the jukebox to play N*Sync- Girlfriend and she'll drop him like a hot potato and be yours in a second. Job done 😎
OK, serious answer now, I think the important lesson to take is that hot / desirable girls are noticed by everyone... and if you like her, you can bet that there are at least 1-2 other guys who've also clocked her. Therefore, it's a better idea to show your interests early on, so you don't give another guy a chance to get in before you (yes, I've had this before, so I know how much it sucks). The other thing is, if you ask her out quickly, then it's not so bad if she says "No" (for whatever reason), as you haven't built it up in your head so much.
Well that's a lesson to take from this... what should you do about this girl now? One date doesn't exactly equate to a marriage proposal. At least wait until they've had their date before trying anything... it may not work out, in which case you can approach her again. On the other hand, if she does seem to like him, then yes, move on (but bear in mind what I said about moving quicker next time).
TBF, did she know that the OP was interested in her? We don't know how excited she was about the date... after all, her saying "yes" can mean anything from "You'll do for now" to "You're the one I want to be with".

Thanks for this! Yeah, I’ll just watch how things play out for the time being as I don’t want to interfere with anything. It just feels like a massive kick to the balls because we actually had a decent thing going and I expected that she’d say yes if I did ask her out. That’s just life I guess though.

I’m terms of how excited she felt about the date - not very from what I can tell. Found it a bit odd but I suppose it might play more into my favour.

Reply 7

Original post by Dunnig Kruger
Great advice from Ciel and Old Skool Freak about being positive and going for it and not procrastinating.
To which I'd add: don't live with a scarcity mindset, live with an abundance mindset.
You shouldn't feel like your whole world has shattered because of 1 setback with 1 potential girlfriend. You should be aiming to set up an active dating sales funnel. Where you're breaking the ice with lots of women you're attracted to.
There are a lot of wonderful women out there. Don't get fixated on one till one is very much fixated on you.
It also seems that you're taking yourself and your life too seriously. Especially the negative stuff. Lighten up! Take yourself less seriously, especially the bad things and the things that stress and worry you. This is a change you can make overnight. By simply taking a very zoomed out look at your life and deciding that from now on you'll be a lot less serious.
In doing so you will make yourself more attractive to women.

Thank you, I’m definitely trying to change my outlook on life as I get older as I’ve always taken it pretty seriously. Just really cared about this one but it is what it is.

Reply 8

Don't be passive, don't sit on the sidelines. Be proactive. Go for what you want. Preferably in ways that maximise your chances of success.

From her point of view, it will be a nice situation to be in, if she has a choice of 2 guys to go on dates with.

The inner you should be confident that you're a much better man to be her boyfriend than the other chap. With this being something you don't boast about. You just have that inner confidence.

Reply 9

Original post by Dunnig Kruger
Don't be passive, don't sit on the sidelines. Be proactive. Go for what you want. Preferably in ways that maximise your chances of success.
From her point of view, it will be a nice situation to be in, if she has a choice of 2 guys to go on dates with.
The inner you should be confident that you're a much better man to be her boyfriend than the other chap. With this being something you don't boast about. You just have that inner confidence.

So you think I should still ask her out? Her date is in a couple of days time so I could always see if she’s free before or after that. I was gonna to see how things go and then ask her out if it wasn’t great.

Reply 10

Yes, ask her to go on a low pressure non-date date with you. Coffee and chat, or a drink and chat. Maybe a little get together with a few friends of yours. At a time that's convenient for you and her.

Reply 11

Original post by Anonymous
Feel like my whole world just shattered before me. I was literally just about to ask her out on a date today, and within moments of getting ready to ask she brought up that a guy has invited her out for a meal and was asking me whether I thought it was a date or not. I actually can’t believe my luck. Is it still worth asking her out, or should I just leave it and move on.
Why does the universe just like to **** on me sometimes. Anyone have any similar experiences so I know that I’m not the only one with god awful luck? Is it worth still trying to pursue this?

Yes you can, one of the unfortunate (though not in your case) features of modern dating is that many women do date multiple men.

Make sure your date is before his however and make it pretty clear that you won't tolerate her dating other people men if she wants another date (basically, shove the other guy out of the way in her head).

Be prepared for rejection though if she has enough calibre not to be dating multiple people and also be prepared for rejection in the sense that she may already be more invested in the other guy, there's no guarantee you can win.
(edited 7 months ago)

Reply 12

The original poster will have more chance of success if he takes a mildly amused stance at the thought of this woman dating someone else. Trying to make it clear to her that he won't tolerate her dating other people would be a recipe for failure.

A George Clooney or a Brad Pitt wouldn't be worried at all about the competition. So why should the original poster?
Original post by Anonymous
Thanks for this! Yeah, I’ll just watch how things play out for the time being as I don’t want to interfere with anything. It just feels like a massive kick to the balls because we actually had a decent thing going and I expected that she’d say yes if I did ask her out. That’s just life I guess though.
I’m terms of how excited she felt about the date - not very from what I can tell. Found it a bit odd but I suppose it might play more into my favour.

So why didn't you date her to find out more about her, rather than the other way round? When i first met my now-boyfriend we were dating after 4 days. Plus you know what they say about treatment of service staff revealing someone's character...

Reply 14

Original post by Old Skool Freak
Just rock up to her (jacket over shoulder), flash your cheekiest grin, then say, "Why you dating a zero, when you could be with a hero?", , kick the jukebox to play N*Sync- Girlfriend and she'll drop him like a hot potato and be yours in a second. Job done 😎
OK, serious answer now, I think the important lesson to take is that hot / desirable girls are noticed by everyone... and if you like her, you can bet that there are at least 1-2 other guys who've also clocked her. Therefore, it's a better idea to show your interests early on, so you don't give another guy a chance to get in before you (yes, I've had this before, so I know how much it sucks). The other thing is, if you ask her out quickly, then it's not so bad if she says "No" (for whatever reason), as you haven't built it up in your head so much.
Well that's a lesson to take from this... what should you do about this girl now? One date doesn't exactly equate to a marriage proposal. At least wait until they've had their date before trying anything... it may not work out, in which case you can approach her again. On the other hand, if she does seem to like him, then yes, move on (but bear in mind what I said about moving quicker next time).
TBF, did she know that the OP was interested in her? We don't know how excited she was about the date... after all, her saying "yes" can mean anything from "You'll do for now" to "You're the one I want to be with".

This is such beautiful advice - But if I look hideous, how do you suspect I change myself? Focusing on academic life right now, but I just want advice for a headstart :biggrin: :pizza:

Reply 15

Original post by Rakas21
Yes you can, one of the unfortunate (though not in your case) features of modern dating is that many women do date multiple men.
Make sure your date is before his however and make it pretty clear that you won't tolerate her dating other people men if she wants another date (basically, shove the other guy out of the way in her head).
Be prepared for rejection though if she has enough calibre not to be dating multiple people and also be prepared for rejection in the sense that she may already be more invested in the other guy, there's no guarantee you can win.

Unfortunately I didn’t realise until now that a date before isn’t going to be possible, so my only option is that I ask her out after she’s had her date. I’m assuming that I should wait a couple of days, and I’ll be doing it in person too so hopefully she’s receptive to the idea!

Reply 16

Original post by Anonymous
Thanks for this! Yeah, I’ll just watch how things play out for the time being as I don’t want to interfere with anything. It just feels like a massive kick to the balls because we actually had a decent thing going and I expected that she’d say yes if I did ask her out. That’s just life I guess though.
I’m terms of how excited she felt about the date - not very from what I can tell. Found it a bit odd but I suppose it might play more into my favour.

It is what it is.:dontknow:

I think all you can do is play this one by ear, and let her know that you do think she's attractive. I'm not talking about declaring undying love or anything like that... but a couple of (well placed and classy) compliments about how she looks should plant the seed.

Thinking about it, you'd be better off going through her friends on finding out how excited she is about the date (if you know them well enough); it's bound to have come up in one of her girly chats... to you, she may just be playing it cool?

Original post by Surnia
So why didn't you date her to find out more about her, rather than the other way round? When i first met my now-boyfriend we were dating after 4 days. Plus you know what they say about treatment of service staff revealing someone's character...

By the tone of his replies, I think he's learnt his lesson now, and will move quicker and more decisively in future. I think we're all a bit guilty or procrastinating from time to time.

Original post by Dunnig Kruger
The original poster will have more chance of success if he takes a mildly amused stance at the thought of this woman dating someone else. Trying to make it clear to her that he won't tolerate her dating other people would be a recipe for failure.
A George Clooney or a Brad Pitt wouldn't be worried at all about the competition. So why should the original poster?

I'll never forget reading about George Clooney getting blown out by a café waitress once, because she agreed to go home with someone else earlier... so if an "A" list Hollywood celebrity can get blown out, then it's proof it can happen to anyone.
(edited 6 months ago)

Reply 17

Original post by Dunnig Kruger
The original poster will have more chance of success if he takes a mildly amused stance at the thought of this woman dating someone else. Trying to make it clear to her that he won't tolerate her dating other people would be a recipe for failure.
A George Clooney or a Brad Pitt wouldn't be worried at all about the competition. So why should the original poster?

Well being compared to them has made my day! But I fully agree. I wouldn’t want to go the angle of not tolerating anything. She’s her own person and can do what she wants!

Reply 18

Original post by Old Skool Freak
It is what it is.:dontknow:
I think all you can do is play this one by ear, and let her know that you do think she's attractive. I'm not talking about declaring undying love or anything like that... but a couple of compliments about how she looks should plant the seed.
Thinking about it, you'd be better off going through her friends on finding out how excited she is about the date (if you know them well enough); it's bound to have come up in one of her girly chats... to you, she may just be playing it cool?
By the tone of his replies, I think he's learnt his lesson now, and will move quicker and more decisively in future. I think we're all a bit guilty or procrastinating from time to time.
I'll never forget reading about George Clooney getting blown out by a café waitress once, because she agreed to go home with someone else earlier... so if an "A" list Hollywood celebrity can get blown out, then it's proof it can happen to anyone.

Very true, unfortunately I don’t know her friends well enough to ask them something like that, it would most likely end up backfiring. My friends all thought she was interested in me though. It is what it is though, like you say I’ll play it by ear. If she doesn’t end up having a great time, or if I don’t hear anything about the guy for a few days, then I’ll probably just ask her out so I don’t have any regrets.

While she didn’t seem that excited about the date to me, she obviously likes him enough to actually go on a date with him, and so I think I might just have to put this one down to experience sadly.

Reply 19

Original post by Mr_Pizza
This is such beautiful advice - But if I look hideous, how do you suspect I change myself? Focusing on academic life right now, but I just want advice for a headstart :biggrin: :pizza:

With these kind of things, I personally take the Yin Yan philosophy; as in I don't believe anyone is truly hideous (apart from possibly extreme cases like burns / acid attack victims or they have a condition like Proetus syndrome... but even some of these people still find someone who can love them for who they are). Assuming you don't have anything like this, there will be something you can work with. Likewise, even the most beautiful people on earth have something about their appearance they're not happy about (even if they never actually say so, or no one else ever picks up on it).

However, if your face is really is that bad, then do what you can to divert attention away from it. Dress in a style that suits you (N.B. you can go to a clothes store and get the assistants to pick up some outfits for you). What's more, if you can find a style or outfit that really does you justice, it's worth spending a bit of money on it (think of it like an investment). If you can, style your hair so it somewhat distracts from your face; if you can't, maybe think about getting a head accessory like a hat, cap or something.

The other thing is that these days, I think having a good physique accounts for slightly more than a pretty face... and if you're able-bodied then this is definitely something you can do. Now just to be clear, I'm NOT, I repeat NOT saying that you have to be 6' with washboard abs, and biceps like tree trunks (with a "douchebag" hair cut lol) to get anywhere. Most girls aren't actually looking for that; they just like someone who takes reasonable care of themselves. In fact, being seen with someone with an Adonis type figure, will only make her acutely aware of her own physical flaws. Rather than trying to compete with all the "Chads" or "Tyrones" (N.B. Tyrone is Chad's black brother / wingman ... and I'm not making this up LMAO) out there, work on becoming a better version of "you". Another incentive, you say you're 'focusing on your academic life right now'... exercising (particularly cardiovascular) will help you think clearer and sharper; as well as the obvious health / fitness benefits (there are reasons people go for a swim / run in the morning before going to work, class etc.). Another motivation to get started sooner rather than later :p: :dumbells: :biggrin:

A guy at the gym I go to once said, "There's no such thing as ugly people, just lazy people". (think about it).

I know some people here will say "It's the personality that counts" (which is true to an extent), but the fact of the matter is when we meet someone, we (as human beings) make an initial judgement based purely on how someone looks, and then decide whether or not we'll give them the time of day (again, you don't have to be Mr Universe, just have the right look for the right girl / occasion). It's only once you've crossed that initial hurdle that you'll get a chance to put your personality across... and you do need a personality to back it up. Please note, when I say personality, I mean you actually have to have one; it's NOT something I'm saying so less attractive guys can feel better about themselves.
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