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Girl thinks I’m a virgin but I’m not

So me and the girl I’m dating was talking about body counts and she told me how many people she’s had sex with then she asked what my body count was.

I made a joke and was like “none I’m a virgin” but she took it quite seriously and then I kept joking about it like “Yeah, I’ve never had a gf in my life” but I was saying it in a joking / sarcastic way planning to be like “haha kidding not really, I’ve slept with X girls before” but she took it so seriously that I felt it would be awkward for me to say it was a joke.. so just kept quiet and figured it would pass and forget about it

However it’s now been over a month and she regularly talks about how happy she is that I’ve only slept with her etc and she was so super serious about it that if I tell her I was joking it wouldn’t be funny anymore.. I actually feel it could cause a massive argument if I tell her.

Not sure what to do? Should I just forget about it and go along with it? Or just tell her I was joking in the future once we’re in an official relationship?

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Reply 1

The third option, that you missed, is that you tell this girl now. Otherwise, that wouldn't be great way to start a relationship, basing it on a lie.

If she decides to leave you over it, you'll learn that honesty, trust and communication are key.

Reply 2

how can she prove if you’re a virgin or not??? just lie bro

Reply 3

When she thought you were being serious you should have told her straight away - now she’s run with the idea, and you can either keep up the lie or tell her, which could upset her.

Reply 4

Original post by Anonymous
So me and the girl I’m dating was talking about body counts and she told me how many people she’s had sex with then she asked what my body count was.
I made a joke and was like “none I’m a virgin” but she took it quite seriously and then I kept joking about it like “Yeah, I’ve never had a gf in my life” but I was saying it in a joking / sarcastic way planning to be like “haha kidding not really, I’ve slept with X girls before” but she took it so seriously that I felt it would be awkward for me to say it was a joke.. so just kept quiet and figured it would pass and forget about it
However it’s now been over a month and she regularly talks about how happy she is that I’ve only slept with her etc and she was so super serious about it that if I tell her I was joking it wouldn’t be funny anymore.. I actually feel it could cause a massive argument if I tell her.
Not sure what to do? Should I just forget about it and go along with it? Or just tell her I was joking in the future once we’re in an official relationship?

Mate man up and be honest and just tell the truth

Reply 5

Keep schtum. Previous sexual history is no one else’s business unless you choose to share it

Reply 6

Original post by Zarek
Keep schtum. Previous sexual history is no one else’s business unless you choose to share it

She asked. He lied.

Reply 7

Original post by zennynyny
how can she prove if you’re a virgin or not??? just lie bro

Well it's the way you having sex can be the telltale sign of you being a virgin or not...

Reply 8

Original post by Surnia
She asked. He lied.

You have a point. Although perhaps he was a tad ambushed with the question. If it has no material relevance to the here and now I think it’s acceptable to let the moment pass

Reply 9

I agree with @Surnia , you should tell her the truth as soon as possible.
Even explain what you wrote here. She might be disappointed but the sooner you tell her the better chances you have for her forgiving you and even maybe she won't even count it as a lie, but just as an awkward moment. If you want to build a good relationship with her you should be honest with her.

Reply 10

Original post by Surnia
She asked. He lied.

Have you ever said something in jest that was taken seriously?

Did you feel particularly guilty about that particular example of your humour?
Or was any guilt relatively minor compared to you feeling either exasperated at the reaction of your listener(s) or in you seeing the comedy in the whole situation?

Do you think that injecting humour into conversations is a good thing? Or do you think that it's better to be 100% straight and direct and serious at all times?

If you think that humour is a good thing, do you think it's better to use multiple types of humour, with this sometimes including kidding-type humour or sarcasm?

Do you think that when using humour in conversations, it's fine if this is a natural, spur of the moment thing, where funny things are blurted out automatically by the brain because of the underlying mood of the person saying it?
Do you think that spontaneous humour is fine to throw into conversations?

Context is everything. The original poster said something that wasn't true and was therefore a lie in the broadest definition of the word. However the context was that he was in a relaxed social situation and he was joking and using spontaneous humour, that then got out of hand.

I've been in that situation a few times.

There was one time: Social Circle Friend A told Social Circle Friend B that I had chatted up his girlfriend as a joke. B took it seriously. When B confronted me about it I told him directly that I hadn't chatted up his girlfriend. B didn't believe me. I gave up trying to convince him.

It's easier to fool someone in the first place than it is to convince them they've been fooled.

For the original poster: your girlfriend might not believe you when you tell her your body count.
If she were to dump you because of this whole episode, she's not the girl for you.
If you handle this the right way, this whole episode will increase her attraction to you.
A good principle to have is that you will be a positive challenge. There's 3 types of guys: typical nice guys, negative challenges and positive challenges. Most men are in the typical nice guy category. Negative challenges are the bad boys.
Positive challenges are the small minority of men that treat the women they love right, but they never let the girl conquer their humour, their reactions nor their time.

This means that you will continue to use your spontaneous humour. Liberally.
You won't bring up the subject of your body count. The next time she brings it up you'll say something like "Well, actually." in a humourous tone. And if it then gets into a serious conversation you will maintain your good mood regardless of the mood she gets into. You won't apologise for what you did, because you're not going to let her conquer your humour. You should show empathy towards how she feels about it. But it should be empathy with a core of assertiveness from you. You enjoy throwing humour into conversations. It's just the way that you are. So that you may well give her a warm and gently hug as she tells you what a rotter you are.

Don't let her conquer your reaction by you falling into her frame that you've done something wrong. Maintain your frame that you've just been you. And that all this is just one of those things. No big deal in the grand scheme. And that similar episodes may happen in the future.
Original post by Dunnig Kruger
You won't bring up the subject of your body count. The next time she brings it up you'll say something like "Well, actually." in a humourous tone. And if it then gets into a serious conversation you will maintain your good mood regardless of the mood she gets into. You won't apologise for what you did, because you're not going to let her conquer your humour. You should show empathy towards how she feels about it. But it should be empathy with a core of assertiveness from you. You enjoy throwing humour into conversations. It's just the way that you are. So that you may well give her a warm and gently hug as she tells you what a rotter you are.

Don't let her conquer your reaction by you falling into her frame that you've done something wrong. Maintain your frame that you've just been you. And that all this is just one of those things. No big deal in the grand scheme. And that similar episodes may happen in the future.

I could potentially see the merit in this if it wasn't for the fact that, according to the OP, she is regularly bringing up how happy she is that he has only slept with her. He's also said that she's so "super serious" about it that if he tells her he was joking it wouldn't be funny anymore. In other words, whether we call it a lie, a misunderstanding, or an attempt at humour that missed the target, the problem is that the OP has allowed this to build up in her mind to the point where it's now an important feature of their relationship for her. Even if don't think the initial joke is an issue, which I could understand, him allowing her misunderstanding of the situation to perpetuate is an issue. The whole "if she reacts badly she's not the girl for you" thing is such a poor excuse. He is actively allowing a situation to be maintained that is ultimately damaging the trust between them. A month is nothing in the grand scheme of things and it may well be that they aren't ultimately compatible. But that doesn't avoid the fact that he has handled this poorly, and if he likes this woman and wants to pursue things further with her, he needs to correct this misunderstanding as soon as he can.

Reply 12

Original post by Crazy Jamie
I could potentially see the merit in this if it wasn't for the fact that, according to the OP, she is regularly bringing up how happy she is that he has only slept with her. He's also said that she's so "super serious" about it that if he tells her he was joking it wouldn't be funny anymore. In other words, whether we call it a lie, a misunderstanding, or an attempt at humour that missed the target, the problem is that the OP has allowed this to build up in her mind to the point where it's now an important feature of their relationship for her. Even if don't think the initial joke is an issue, which I could understand, him allowing her misunderstanding of the situation to perpetuate is an issue. The whole "if she reacts badly she's not the girl for you" thing is such a poor excuse. He is actively allowing a situation to be maintained that is ultimately damaging the trust between them. A month is nothing in the grand scheme of things and it may well be that they aren't ultimately compatible. But that doesn't avoid the fact that he has handled this poorly, and if he likes this woman and wants to pursue things further with her, he needs to correct this misunderstanding as soon as he can.

There are issues here. More than 1 issue.

The listening skills of the girlfriend.
The gullibility of the girlfriend. Although the spin I'd put on it is that's she's been endearingly sweet with how gullible she's been.
The girlfriend making a big deal of his fictional virginity.
The original poster not correcting things when the joke has gone on longer than a week.

These are all quite sweet, minor issues. The sorts of things on which a wonderful long term relationship can be built.
They are the sort of issues on which neither of them should apologise to the other. And they are issues which each of them should forgive each other for having and should totally tolerate the other person for having.

There are other things in their relationship that are far more important when it comes to whether they should stay together than this joke getting out of hand issue.

You have distorted what I said when you said "The whole "if she reacts badly she's not the girl for you" thing is such a poor excuse"
What is said was "If she were to dump you because of this whole episode, she's not the girl for you."

And as for damaging the trust between them. It's all down to being a positive challenge.
Typical nice guys make the mistake of avoiding upsetting their girlfriends during the early stages of their relationships. And they make the mistake of going out of their way to convince their girlfriends that they should trust them.

A positive challenge guy accepts that their girlfriends may well get upset sometimes by their humour and the jokes that they make. Along with the odd misunderstanding that arises as a result. They also accept that their girlfriends may get upset when positive challenge guy doesn't fall into their frame - eg in this case "I'm upset that you made this joke and carried on this joke for week and didn't tell me the truth (I expect you to be upset and apologetic too)"
And the positive challenge guy accepts that their girlfriends will be upset when they fail to conquer his time. EG she wants a date on a Saturday evening, but that's his regular 5 a side football time, so he re-arranges for another day.

The original poster has behaved like he's a positive challenge so far. That's handling things just fine. That's NOT handling things poorly.

No he doesn't need to correct this misunderstanding as soon as he can. He should wait for her to bring up the subject. Because it really isn't a big deal. This is nothing that needs any sort of priority from the original poster.

One tactic he could use when she brings it up is to make another joke. This time where he exaggerates how many women he's slept with.
EG "Well actually... The number's nearer to (spend a few seconds counting on his fingers etc) ... 42. Depending on what you count as sex. I've got 6 children by 6 different mothers. That's why I'm free to see you on Sundays. It's my 1 day off a week." etc etc.
And then, maybe, make that the new running joke. For a while. Before telling her the true amount in all seriousness.
Original post by Dunnig Kruger
You have distorted what I said when you said "The whole "if she reacts badly she's not the girl for you" thing is such a poor excuse"
What is said was "If she were to dump you because of this whole episode, she's not the girl for you."

Presumably we can agree that her dumping him would be a bad reaction, in which case I'm not sure what you're driving at. Even taking your original wording, my original point stands that the whole "if she dumps you, she's not the one for you" is making excuses, as frankly is the suggestion that she's made mistakes here too. She's misunderstood something. He knows she has. She doesn't. The power to remedy this lies with him, not her. Suggesting that some of the issues lie with her (the majority of them, no less) is, again, an attempt to make excuses.

People can choose to continue with or move on from relationships at an early stage for a whole host of reasons. It's not about whether they're each other's true love at this stage, and we all make mistakes. But if the OP has done something wrong the way to remedy it is to deal with it, not be blasé about it and then say that it's effectively her problem if she dumps him for it. If he wants to continue this relationship, he should correct something that has clearly become a reasonably significant thing to her.

Again, I know that you don't think it's important. But for all the talk of strategy and tactics when dealing with issues, and this quite weird desire to put one of three different labels on every single guy, the fact is that if you know something that you have done is going to bother your other half when they find out about it, the correct thing to do is to address it. Not because it's important to you. Because it's important to them. That is how things work in actual, established, successful relationships. If the OP thinks he might want one of those with this woman, it's probably best to start acting like it now by addressing this.
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Reply 14

Original post by Zarek
You have a point. Although perhaps he was a tad ambushed with the question. If it has no material relevance to the here and now I think it’s acceptable to let the moment pass

Ambushed? That's the kind of question which comes up. The girl has been open and honest the OP is perpetuating a lie, which means he doesn't have communication skills and doesn't take the relationship seriously if it's taken him several weeks to think what he's done is a bad idea.

Reply 15

it's not that deep. seriously, just don't tell her. why would you if the lie makes her so happy? just get over your silly guilt.
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Reply 16

Original post by Crazy Jamie
Presumably we can agree that her dumping him would be a bad reaction, in which case I'm not sure what you're driving at. Even taking your original wording, my original point stands that the whole "if she dumps you, she's not the one for you" is making excuses, as frankly is the suggestion that she's made mistakes here too. She's misunderstood something. He knows she has. She doesn't. The power to remedy this lies with him, not her. Suggesting that some of the issues lie with her (the majority of them, no less) is, again, an attempt to make excuses.
People can choose to continue with or move on from relationships at an early stage for a whole host of reasons. It's not about whether they're each other's true love at this stage, and we all make mistakes. But if the OP has done something wrong the way to remedy it is to deal with it, not be blasé about it and then say that it's effectively her problem if she dumps him for it. If he wants to continue this relationship, he should correct something that has clearly become a reasonably significant thing to her.
Again, I know that you don't think it's important. But for all the talk of strategy and tactics when dealing with issues, and this quite weird desire to put one of three different labels on every single guy, the fact is that if you know something that you have done is going to bother your other half when they find out about it, the correct thing to do is to address it. Not because it's important to you. Because it's important to them. That is how things work in actual, established, successful relationships. If the OP thinks he might want one of those with this woman, it's probably best to start acting like it now by addressing this.

"the fact is that if you know something that you have done is going to bother your other half when they find out about it, the correct thing to do is to address it. Not because it's important to you. Because it's important to them. That is how things work in actual, established, successful relationships."

Wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong wrong!
Going back to the Saturday evening example. The Positive Challenge guy knows that their girlfriend wants to be with them on Saturday. And that it is important to the girlfriend. And that she will be bothered that he's off playing 5 a side instead of going out with her.
Should he address it? No! Not on your Nellly!
He should stick to his guns, play football as usual and see her some other time.
Should he be apologetic about it? Only very minimally so.

Will this make any woman (worth being with) love him any less? No!
It will actually make her more interested in him and more attracted to him.
Because of human nature.

The same principles apply to the original poster being the sort of guy that uses spontaneous humour. That sometimes gets misinterpreted. Should he stop coming out with those sorts of jokes? NO!
Should he apologise about the whole thing? Only minimally.
Original post by Dunnig Kruger
"the fact is that if you know something that you have done is going to bother your other half when they find out about it, the correct thing to do is to address it. Not because it's important to you. Because it's important to them. That is how things work in actual, established, successful relationships."

Wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong wrong!
Going back to the Saturday evening example. The Positive Challenge guy knows that their girlfriend wants to be with them on Saturday. And that it is important to the girlfriend. And that she will be bothered that he's off playing 5 a side instead of going out with her.
Should he address it? No! Not on your Nellly!
He should stick to his guns, play football as usual and see her some other time.
Should he be apologetic about it? Only very minimally so.

Will this make any woman (worth being with) love him any less? No!
It will actually make her more interested in him and more attracted to him.
Because of human nature.

The same principles apply to the original poster being the sort of guy that uses spontaneous humour. That sometimes gets misinterpreted. Should he stop coming out with those sorts of jokes? NO!
Should he apologise about the whole thing? Only minimally.

Your five a side football example is completely different to this situation, and a completely different issue within relationships, but if you can't see that there's no a lot I can do to help you.

Reply 18

Original post by Crazy Jamie
Your five a side football example is completely different to this situation, and a completely different issue within relationships, but if you can't see that there's no a lot I can do to help you.

How are the PRINCIPLES completely different?

They are different in that one is in not letting his time be conquered. The other is in not letting his humour and his reactions be conquered.
However the general guiding principle is that he should never let his time, humour nor reactions be conquered.

Reply 19

Original post by Surnia
Ambushed? That's the kind of question which comes up. The girl has been open and honest the OP is perpetuating a lie, which means he doesn't have communication skills and doesn't take the relationship seriously if it's taken him several weeks to think what he's done is a bad idea.

I see your point. I do think it is a sensitive question that someone is not honour bound to answer. For me it would best to see if a new partner chooses to volunteer such information

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