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Is anyone applying for the PA course this year . Do you think that things will settle down after GMC regulation?

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Reply 1

Original post by Blueberrypop
Is anyone applying for the PA course this year . Do you think that things will settle down after GMC regulation?

From my understanding - they are in the process (they have a plan) of resolving many of the issues that the PA profession currently has... however, how long this is gonna take is definitely up for debate.

Personally, If you want to do a PA course... you should do it, but just remember there is a lot of uncertainty at the moment.
(edited 9 months ago)

Reply 2

Original post by Blueberrypop
Is anyone applying for the PA course this year . Do you think that things will settle down after GMC regulation?


I’m applying for the course this year? Which unis are you applying to

Reply 3

I had to come on here to warn future applicants. Don't do it. Find another course. A lot of us PAs are now screwed. Royal College of GPs have withdrawn support. Soon ARRS scheme will be up for review and loads of PAs will lose their jobs in GP land. Royal College of Physicians are also turning back on PAs. And now GMC are being sued in the High Court... You will graduate like me with £XXk debt and no job security.
These universities are lying for money. False advertising.
I couldn't live with myself if I didn't warn you. I'm sorry.

Reply 4

Original post by PA screwed
I had to come on here to warn future applicants. Don't do it. Find another course. A lot of us PAs are now screwed. Royal College of GPs have withdrawn support. Soon ARRS scheme will be up for review and loads of PAs will lose their jobs in GP land. Royal College of Physicians are also turning back on PAs. And now GMC are being sued in the High Court... You will graduate like me with £XXk debt and no job security.
These universities are lying for money. False advertising.
I couldn't live with myself if I didn't warn you. I'm sorry.


When the gmc regulation will come into place in December 2024, things will start to improvise Don’t write messages like this please

Reply 5

Original post by selinaxo
When the gmc regulation will come into place in December 2024, things will start to improvise Don’t write messages like this please

Im sorry but you don't know what you are talking about. People deserve to know facts before spending tens of thousands of pounds. What I'm saying isnt conspiracy, its widely reported and verifiable facts.

Reply 6

Original post by PA screwed
Im sorry but you don't know what you are talking about. People deserve to know facts before spending tens of thousands of pounds. What I'm saying isnt conspiracy, its widely reported and verifiable facts.


Yh I know but that is because it wasn’t regulated. When it’s regulated by the gmc, then things will start to improve. You need to have faith trust me

Reply 7

Original post by Blueberrypop
Is anyone applying for the PA course this year . Do you think that things will settle down after GMC regulation?

Hi I currently study Physician associate studies. Things are definitely a lot more complicated at the moment so I would suggest thinking about it. However regulation has yet to come into play and that has already been passed by law so we will get regulated in December and hopefully by the time you graduate things will be better. That being said my course leads have not received anything about other pa's jobs being threatened since certain news has come out so I would be wary of the individual in the comments. But please do remember that there is a lot of backlash around PA's unfortunately but that's just the way it is until we get given a proper scope and proper regulation so be ready to kind of deal with this too. Good luck

Reply 8

I respect you have your own point of view. Im just sharing mine - and I wish someone had said what I'm saying now to me before i signed up.
Look at the number of PA job vacancies ... Zilch
Loads of my friends cant find jobs. But they have 30+k student debt.
At the end of the day, if PAs cost more than most resident drs, but have far less training and scope, it makes zero sense for an employer to take us on, GMC registration or not. And SAS doctors can provide the stability without rotating jobs.

To the comment above - obviously course leads aren't going to tell you this stuff even if they did know! ARRS is being reviewed next year and that puts jobs in threat in the future, as the PA role might be removed (https://www.rcgp.org.uk/News/college-welcomes-review-arrs-funding).

If people want to study PA then go ahead by all means. But at least you now have been warned. Good luck everyone.
(edited 9 months ago)

Reply 9

Original post by selinaxo
When the gmc regulation will come into place in December 2024, things will start to improvise Don’t write messages like this please

You should listen to what @PA screwed is saying, i get were you are coming from but as someone who did the undergraduate PA course, i am still in the same situation with the majority of people. The regulation happening in December does not garantee that there will be enough job for all of us. At the end of the day you do you. But atleast PA screwed said it. I only logged onto this app first time in a very long time to warn ppl. Good luck

Reply 10

Original post by PA screwed
I respect you have your own point of view. Im just sharing mine - and I wish someone had said what I'm saying now to me before i signed up.
Look at the number of PA job vacancies ... Zilch
Loads of my friends cant find jobs. But they have 30+k student debt.
At the end of the day, if PAs cost more than most resident drs, but have far less training and scope, it makes zero sense for an employer to take us on, GMC registration or not. And SAS doctors can provide the stability without rotating jobs.
To the comment above - obviously course leads aren't going to tell you this stuff even if they did know! ARRS is being reviewed next year and that puts jobs in threat in the future, as the PA role might be removed (https://www.rcgp.org.uk/News/college-welcomes-review-arrs-funding).
If people want to study PA then go ahead by all means. But at least you now have been warned. Good luck everyone.

The PA role is very unlikely to be removed. Jobs are something that all of you should have considered prior to doing the course itself. In my area there are still quite a few jobs and a lot of PA's employed in several areas so its unfortunate that its not the same elsewhere however I do understand your point about the of market being scarce at the moment. But things always tend to get worse before they get better. While I cant guarantee op will receive a job nobody can guarantee what the future will be like for PA's not until regulation happens and that will be happening.

Reply 11

Original post by Kawahi
You should listen to what @PA screwed is saying, i get were you are coming from but as someone who did the undergraduate PA course, i am still in the same situation with the majority of people. The regulation happening in December does not garantee that there will be enough job for all of us. At the end of the day you do you. But atleast PA screwed said it. I only logged onto this app first time in a very long time to warn ppl. Good luck
Most degrees don't necessarily guarantee a job the job market always changes. Yes I cant state what the future will be like for PA's and I'm sorry that the job market hasn't been very great for yourself but just because you have had a bad time does not mean somebody else will if that makes sense. The warning will be for op to decide whether they think its still a route to go down but obviously this is at everyone's own discretion. Course leads are usually very genuine well at least mine is. We were given plenty of options we could take and not every course lead is in it for money my course lead is a PA themselves so they understand better than anyone. Ultimately it just sounds like both of are you are stressed because you are unable to find jobs at the moment which is very understandable and I hope this situation gets better for you. We are all in similar boats at the moment but I would prefer to be hopeful instead.
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Reply 12

Original post by Kawahi
You should listen to what @PA screwed is saying, i get were you are coming from but as someone who did the undergraduate PA course, i am still in the same situation with the majority of people. The regulation happening in December does not garantee that there will be enough job for all of us. At the end of the day you do you. But atleast PA screwed said it. I only logged onto this app first time in a very long time to warn ppl. Good luck


What uni did you go and do you think doing the undergrad better prepared you for your role as a PA than doing a healthcare career

Reply 13

What uni did you go and do you think doing the undergrad better prepared you for your role as a PA than doing a healthcare career
i went to university of Reading. The undergrad is better interms of it’s fully funded by student finance and for the first 2 years you go over the medical science route with some clinical placement. Then the last 2 is more learning pathological conditions etc and more clinical placement.
I’m not sure what u mean by “doing a healthcare career” do u mean doing an undergrad in something else then a masters?
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Reply 14

Original post by Kawahi
i went to university of Reading. The undergrad is better interms of it’s fully funded by student finance and for the first 2 years you go over the medical science route with some clinical placement. Then the last 2 is more learning pathological conditions etc and more clinical placement.
I’m not sure what u mean by “doing a healthcare career” do u mean doing an undergrad in something else then a masters?


Yes for example doing an undergrad in nursing ,paramedics or biological sciences etc then doing the post grad for 2 years.Also would you have rather done an undergraduate course so that you’d have career to fall back on due to the confusion with PAs

Reply 15

Original post by PA screwed
I respect you have your own point of view. Im just sharing mine - and I wish someone had said what I'm saying now to me before i signed up.
Look at the number of PA job vacancies ... Zilch
Loads of my friends cant find jobs. But they have 30+k student debt.
At the end of the day, if PAs cost more than most resident drs, but have far less training and scope, it makes zero sense for an employer to take us on, GMC registration or not. And SAS doctors can provide the stability without rotating jobs.
To the comment above - obviously course leads aren't going to tell you this stuff even if they did know! ARRS is being reviewed next year and that puts jobs in threat in the future, as the PA role might be removed (https://www.rcgp.org.uk/News/college-welcomes-review-arrs-funding).
If people want to study PA then go ahead by all means. But at least you now have been warned. Good luck everyone.

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Reply 16

Original post by Blueberrypop
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Honestly they did the right thing, they are atleast honest as there are a lot of newly qualified PAs and experienced who are unemployed

Reply 17

Original post by Blueberrypop
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It isn't at the minute, Leeds have also stopped the course and my uni is doing a reduced intake for next year possibly also suspending the course for 2025. Things do tend to get worse before they get better but its something you really need to consider. However it's very likely that more unis will follow this stance so be very careful with your applications. Don't really know how the independent review will turn out but there are a lot of amazing PA's in primary and secondary care so its just a waiting game at the minute. But we were warned that everyone will be trying their best to make things difficult for us before we get regulated which also makes sense. Consider what you want for yourself.

Reply 18

Original post by Kawahi
Honestly they did the right thing, they are atleast honest as there are a lot of newly qualified PAs and experienced who are unemployed

Yes , it’s the right thing to do . The other unis should do the same , especially UEL

Reply 19

Original post by XenK12
It isn't at the minute, Leeds have also stopped the course and my uni is doing a reduced intake for next year possibly also suspending the course for 2025. Things do tend to get worse before they get better but its something you really need to consider. However it's very likely that more unis will follow this stance so be very careful with your applications. Don't really know how the independent review will turn out but there are a lot of amazing PA's in primary and secondary care so its just a waiting game at the minute. But we were warned that everyone will be trying their best to make things difficult for us before we get regulated which also makes sense. Consider what you want for yourself.

Which is your uni?

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