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a level subject regret

I started yr 12 6 weeks ago, with subjects physics chemistry maths further maths. i think I want to go into materials science and engineering/chemical physics/physics. however I can't find the energy to do much outside of school in the subjects. I don't feel inspired during lessons. i only sometimes like maths but the other two i find so dead a lot of time. chemistry is vaguely interesting but only when i self study. idk what to do . i have a bunch of tests coming up and i can't revise. i feel so useless procrastinating. writing this im procrastinating too. idk what i would switch to even if i could. i liked german and art but i can't get a decent degree with those two+ maths and physics or smth similar. i really don't know what to do.

Reply 1

You could drop Chemistry. Maths, Physics, and Further Maths would equip you to apply to study Engineering. If you were to add (say) German or Art you could apply for a wide range of degrees. STEM, humanities, and social sciences degrees are all worthwhile, and all can lead to interesting careers. But you don't really need to do four A levels.

If you were to drop Physics and do (say) Maths, German, and one other subject, you wouldn't be able to study Engineering at the most competitive universities, but would be able to study all sorts of interesting subjects.

An example of changing paths: My daughter did the IB. She entered year 12 intending to become a scientist. She changed her mind, and has recently started reading Law at university.
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Reply 2

Math and Physics is a strong combination for a lot of courses. Chemistry won't be as helpful unless you're planning into go into something like chemical engineering. Your uni applications for European unis for example would be stronger if you also did humanities along with that, as a lot of them like when you have variety in your subjects (due to how most school leaving qualifications in EU work). Can definitely relate to not feeling motivated by your subject content, but if you know what you want to do and you enjoy the subjects outside of the A-level curriculum, all you can do is keep persevering and it will be worth it in the end.

Reply 3

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by Stiffy Byng
You could drop Chemistry. Maths, Physics, and Further Maths would equip you to apply to study Engineering. If you were to add (say) German or Art you could apply for a wide range of degrees. STEM, humanities, and social sciences degrees are all worthwhile, and all can lead to interesting careers. But you don't really need to do four A levels.
If you were to drop Physics and do (say) Maths, German, and one other subject, you wouldn't be able to study Engineering but would be able to study all sorts of interesting subjects.
An example of changing paths: My daughter did the IB. She entered year 12 intending to become a scientist. She changed her mind, and has recently started reading Law at university.

Thank you so much! sorry I haven't had time to reply in the past few days. My school wouldn't let me drop one, it would either be replacing an a level or doing epq but it's really late now to do epq I think. I am currently finding chemistry the most interesting though so I don't know whether I would like to drop it, although it is also quite difficult so I guess the workload would decrease without it. I'll consider your points in my decision, thank you!

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by F!n411Yv!C!0u51Y
Math and Physics is a strong combination for a lot of courses. Chemistry won't be as helpful unless you're planning into go into something like chemical engineering. Your uni applications for European unis for example would be stronger if you also did humanities along with that, as a lot of them like when you have variety in your subjects (due to how most school leaving qualifications in EU work). Can definitely relate to not feeling motivated by your subject content, but if you know what you want to do and you enjoy the subjects outside of the A-level curriculum, all you can do is keep persevering and it will be worth it in the end.

Thank you! I don't really want to go into european unis apart from in the UK because it's easier for me to say in the uk, but I will maybe try to self learn more at home and just do revision in lessons or something like that, thanks!

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by Eloctron
I started yr 12 6 weeks ago, with subjects physics chemistry maths further maths. i think I want to go into materials science and engineering/chemical physics/physics. however I can't find the energy to do much outside of school in the subjects. I don't feel inspired during lessons. i only sometimes like maths but the other two i find so dead a lot of time. chemistry is vaguely interesting but only when i self study. idk what to do . i have a bunch of tests coming up and i can't revise. i feel so useless procrastinating. writing this im procrastinating too. idk what i would switch to even if i could. i liked german and art but i can't get a decent degree with those two+ maths and physics or smth similar. i really don't know what to do.


Hi, I can't help with your decision much but I just wanna tell you that I'm doing the same A levels as you and I'm feeling exactly the same about revision. I haven't got any grades yet but I think I might have an E in chemistry. I've got some exams coming up that I need to do good on.
Your A levels are perfect choices for material science and it's not too late for an EPQ. You'll just need to do about a couple hours of catch up which is nothing over an entire year.
Sorry I can't provide much advice, but just know that no matter what subjects you pick, you'll need to get to work and revise.

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by Eloctron
I started yr 12 6 weeks ago, with subjects physics chemistry maths further maths. i think I want to go into materials science and engineering/chemical physics/physics. however I can't find the energy to do much outside of school in the subjects. I don't feel inspired during lessons. i only sometimes like maths but the other two i find so dead a lot of time. chemistry is vaguely interesting but only when i self study. idk what to do . i have a bunch of tests coming up and i can't revise. i feel so useless procrastinating. writing this im procrastinating too. idk what i would switch to even if i could. i liked german and art but i can't get a decent degree with those two+ maths and physics or smth similar. i really don't know what to do.

not to be really harsh, but if you arent enjoying physics and maths at the moment why would you take it at university?

but in response to the procrastination, sometimes you have to pretend you arent completely hating your alevels and just sit yourself down and try to do some work. discipline is the most important part of revising - the kick that you will get from feeling proud of yourself afterwards will also help with future motivation !

i also really hate alevel physics and would do anything to swap it for a different subject - perseverance is key.

art and german are good subjects that can lead you too a good degree - just not a degree in engineering.

maybe look into some other degree options that involve subjects that you enjoy - chemistry, art or german!

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by Eloctron
Thank you so much! sorry I haven't had time to reply in the past few days. My school wouldn't let me drop one, it would either be replacing an a level or doing epq but it's really late now to do epq I think. I am currently finding chemistry the most interesting though so I don't know whether I would like to drop it, although it is also quite difficult so I guess the workload would decrease without it. I'll consider your points in my decision, thank you!

Your school cannot compel you to take an A level.

Reply 8

By the way, OP, you appear to have fallen for the common myth that degrees in humanities are useless. They're not.

Reply 9

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by stony-earthling
Hi, I can't help with your decision much but I just wanna tell you that I'm doing the same A levels as you and I'm feeling exactly the same about revision. I haven't got any grades yet but I think I might have an E in chemistry. I've got some exams coming up that I need to do good on.
Your A levels are perfect choices for material science and it's not too late for an EPQ. You'll just need to do about a couple hours of catch up which is nothing over an entire year.
Sorry I can't provide much advice, but just know that no matter what subjects you pick, you'll need to get to work and revise.

hello, thank you for the response, sorry that I am responding so late, I have been really busy recently. You have been really reassuring, thank you so much!! I think that you'll do great in chemistry, don't worry, even if you do bad in a few tests now they aren't really as important. good luck!

Reply 10

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by belladees
not to be really harsh, but if you arent enjoying physics and maths at the moment why would you take it at university?
but in response to the procrastination, sometimes you have to pretend you arent completely hating your alevels and just sit yourself down and try to do some work. discipline is the most important part of revising - the kick that you will get from feeling proud of yourself afterwards will also help with future motivation !
i also really hate alevel physics and would do anything to swap it for a different subject - perseverance is key.
art and german are good subjects that can lead you too a good degree - just not a degree in engineering.
maybe look into some other degree options that involve subjects that you enjoy - chemistry, art or german!

thank you so much for the response- I'll try that technique for procrastination. For physics and maths, physics I find really interesting when listening to lectures etc. and it's not the same in lessons, and maths I like more outside of school than in school- I find the classroom I'm in all the time to be really aggravating too now which probably doesn't help. I just need to find a way to deal with it until it gets to degree level maybe? also art I see as more of a hobby, same for german- I can't see myself drawing 24/7, and ik I'd definitely get bored analysing german texts just as I do english texts after a while. thank you!

Reply 11

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by Stiffy Byng
Your school cannot compel you to take an A level.

I don't think I'd have the grounds to remove one, plus I don't really want to because I think my ones open up my options

Reply 12

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by Stiffy Byng
By the way, OP, you appear to have fallen for the common myth that degrees in humanities are useless. They're not.

But I don't really enjoy studying humanities so for me personally I wouldn't want to pursue a humanity degree

Reply 13

Hey,

I study materials science, and those 4 A levels are the perfect combination for an easier time at uni... however, they can be very dull at times, especially non-applied theory...

but I would ask, is it the subjects boring you or the environment, often highly academic individuals get tired and fed up during A levels, they know what they want to do at uni, they have already gone through that discovery path and they are just sort of waiting for time to pass to get there 😅

often the lack of project work also doesn't help, having no short-term goals to drive your commitment... hence procrastination,

I did 4 A levels and EPQ and ended up so busy it killed my procrastination and I was actually very productive, no idea how I did that looking back tbh, but still, procrastination can be a phase, sometimes you just need a kick of motivation to get you out of it

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by Eloctron
I started yr 12 6 weeks ago, with subjects physics chemistry maths further maths. i think I want to go into materials science and engineering/chemical physics/physics. however I can't find the energy to do much outside of school in the subjects. I don't feel inspired during lessons. i only sometimes like maths but the other two i find so dead a lot of time. chemistry is vaguely interesting but only when i self study. idk what to do . i have a bunch of tests coming up and i can't revise. i feel so useless procrastinating. writing this im procrastinating too. idk what i would switch to even if i could. i liked german and art but i can't get a decent degree with those two+ maths and physics or smth similar. i really don't know what to do.

Hey i've literally applied for exactly the same subjects for my a levels but the only reason i picked chemistry is because they force you to take a 4th subject if taking further maths incase you want to drop it and then after you are completely sure you are going to take it or do well in it then you can drop that 4th subject. I wanted to ask if Further maths is really that hard because im getting around an 8 in maths and some people say its really hard. I want to get a A or A* to do finance or economics at UCL or something like that.

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by MaterialsEng
Hey,
I study materials science, and those 4 A levels are the perfect combination for an easier time at uni... however, they can be very dull at times, especially non-applied theory...
but I would ask, is it the subjects boring you or the environment, often highly academic individuals get tired and fed up during A levels, they know what they want to do at uni, they have already gone through that discovery path and they are just sort of waiting for time to pass to get there 😅
often the lack of project work also doesn't help, having no short-term goals to drive your commitment... hence procrastination,
I did 4 A levels and EPQ and ended up so busy it killed my procrastination and I was actually very productive, no idea how I did that looking back tbh, but still, procrastination can be a phase, sometimes you just need a kick of motivation to get you out of it

Hello,
Thank you for replying! Honestly what you're saying might be correct for me, I feel like maybe it's also because I'm bored of my school now.. I'm taking part in a lot of projects, so that has decreased procrastination a bit.. I'll probably keep the a levels if they're the best combination for materials. If you don't mind me asking, where do you study materials? How are you finding it? Any advice?

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by Student0gm
Hey i've literally applied for exactly the same subjects for my a levels but the only reason i picked chemistry is because they force you to take a 4th subject if taking further maths incase you want to drop it and then after you are completely sure you are going to take it or do well in it then you can drop that 4th subject. I wanted to ask if Further maths is really that hard because im getting around an 8 in maths and some people say its really hard. I want to get a A or A* to do finance or economics at UCL or something like that.

Hello, further maths isn't as hard currently, but I did do gcse FSMQ (basically AS maths), so it was mostly repetition. In my school at least they didn't let you take further maths if you got an 8, so I'm not really sure about that- however people in general did struggle quite a lot, especially at the start. Also you have to be prepared for A LOT of maths every day- it's at least 2 hours in school + about 1 hour after school for me. Economics however sometimes has a hidden requirement of further maths so you need to check that. Also why do you want to do both physics and chemistry as well - why don't you do 2 maths and economics + something else if you want to study economics?

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by Eloctron
Hello, further maths isn't as hard currently, but I did do gcse FSMQ (basically AS maths), so it was mostly repetition. In my school at least they didn't let you take further maths if you got an 8, so I'm not really sure about that- however people in general did struggle quite a lot, especially at the start. Also you have to be prepared for A LOT of maths every day- it's at least 2 hours in school + about 1 hour after school for me. Economics however sometimes has a hidden requirement of further maths so you need to check that. Also why do you want to do both physics and chemistry as well - why don't you do 2 maths and economics + something else if you want to study economics?

I do FM as gcse rn and the min requirement for fm a level is 8 which im at right now quite stably. My current school doesn't offer economics for some absurd reason but they have a great maths department. I don't want to do both physics and chem but im forced to take chem due to needing 4 a levels if taking FM incase you want to drop it later on. I still intend of keeping physics because i heard it was a good subject for finance and for economics even if it didn't seem like it and is highly respectable. There is another school which im going to apply to which also offer economics so those 4 options of physics maths FM and economics will be my pick if i get accepted because their system is to randomly select students using a computer if grade requirements are met so its complete luck if you get it. I understand that whatever course i take ill need to do revision and im totally fine with doing maths in free periods or after school because it doesn't bother me that much about doing maths everyday because i want minimum A's.

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by Student0gm
I do FM as gcse rn and the min requirement for fm a level is 8 which im at right now quite stably. My current school doesn't offer economics for some absurd reason but they have a great maths department. I don't want to do both physics and chem but im forced to take chem due to needing 4 a levels if taking FM incase you want to drop it later on. I still intend of keeping physics because i heard it was a good subject for finance and for economics even if it didn't seem like it and is highly respectable. There is another school which im going to apply to which also offer economics so those 4 options of physics maths FM and economics will be my pick if i get accepted because their system is to randomly select students using a computer if grade requirements are met so its complete luck if you get it. I understand that whatever course i take ill need to do revision and im totally fine with doing maths in free periods or after school because it doesn't bother me that much about doing maths everyday because i want minimum A's.

If you are stably at an 8 I would suggest still trying to bring that up to a 9, as it might make you feel more confident about your skills, but otherwise just practise a little bit of maths during the summer holidays so that you don't forget how to do it. Have you considered maybe doing an essay subject as a 4th at your school? I've heard economics as a degree has quite a lot of essays so this might prepare you? But yeah you seem to have a solid plan, I would suggest not wasting free study periods at school as you'll feel much less motivated after school for next year. otherwise good luck!

Reply 19

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by Eloctron
If you are stably at an 8 I would suggest still trying to bring that up to a 9, as it might make you feel more confident about your skills, but otherwise just practise a little bit of maths during the summer holidays so that you don't forget how to do it. Have you considered maybe doing an essay subject as a 4th at your school? I've heard economics as a degree has quite a lot of essays so this might prepare you? But yeah you seem to have a solid plan, I would suggest not wasting free study periods at school as you'll feel much less motivated after school for next year. otherwise good luck!

Thats true but my current school has english in the same block as fm and business i do at gcse but i don't want to do it at A level since its not as respected by better universities like UCL or ICL so the only essay based thing i could do that isn't in the same block as fm maths or physics is physcology but that doesn't link to finance or economics so. Hopefully i get into the school im applying for since its well renowned for its reputation as is mine but there are more options so i could take econ as my 4th. Also is an EPQ worth it or hard im wondering if i should do one. Im also going to start revising a lot more around 2h 30 a day after school to try push myself to get those higher grades bc i think of it as a few years of suffering for many more years of success almost like an investment into a company you know is going to grow.

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