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Reply 60

That’s fair! I was working off of a statement from Oxford which indicated that they would look at the application components of non-test takers and make decisions assuming they would’ve gotten a decent score. Overall I really think the weighting should just be minimized—it saves people who may have done poorly and works against those who may have excelled and been a shoo in.

Reply 61

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by Eg3756
I see your point very clearly. Though, they’d surely make an active effort not too discard those that hadn’t taken the test and then as a result, have to be more critical of those that did take the test…
Though this is terribly speculative. Maybe if a few of us were to enquire, we’d know more.

This. Frankly for those who are willing I think we ought to reach out especially if we want to express that they should minimize (if not erase) consideration for the entrance exam—it would suck for those who spent months prepping, but that’s a sunk cost at this point and those whose exams were cancelled are dealing with the same frustration. I expect that several queries in their inbox is likely the only way to prompt a response from the department.

Reply 62

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by Anonymous
That’s fair! I was working off of a statement from Oxford which indicated that they would look at the application components of non-test takers and make decisions assuming they would’ve gotten a decent score. Overall I really think the weighting should just be minimized—it saves people who may have done poorly and works against those who may have excelled and been a shoo in.


Could you send a link to said statement? I’m interested in reading it fully :smile:

Reply 63

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by Anonymous
This. Frankly for those who are willing I think we ought to reach out especially if we want to express that they should minimize (if not erase) consideration for the entrance exam—it would suck for those who spent months prepping, but that’s a sunk cost at this point and those whose exams were cancelled are dealing with the same frustration. I expect that several queries in their inbox is likely the only way to prompt a response from the department.


I may, perhaps call rather than email tomorrow. It seems more personal and less like spam. I feel bad for the department, it’s not an easy position to be put in at all, yet I’m still interested to see the outcome.

Reply 64

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by Anonymous
I may, perhaps call rather than email tomorrow. It seems more personal and less like spam. I feel bad for the department, it’s not an easy position to be put in at all, yet I’m still interested to see the outcome.

Let me know how it goes!

Reply 65

The University's lawyers are probably half way through writing Pearson a fairly grumpy letter. I've done a lot of litigation about IT projects, and have a somewhat jaded view of IT contractors. They tend to string things out when sued, just as some of them string things out when working on projects.

I am told by Oxford Dons that, each January, and again each August they are deluged with threats of litigation (and sometimes worse) by irate parents of students who have been rejected or who failed to achieve the requisite grades, but very few people make claims. It seems to me that, to avoid litigation this year, the best thing to do would be to disregard the HAT and assess candidates on the other information contained in an application.

Reply 66

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by Stiffy Byng
The University's lawyers are probably half way through writing Pearson a fairly grumpy letter. I've done a lot of litigation about IT projects, and have a somewhat jaded view of IT contractors. They tend to string things out when sued, just as some of them string things out when working on projects.
I am told by Oxford Dons that, each January, and again each August they are deluged with threats of litigation (and sometimes worse) by irate parents of students who have been rejected or who failed to achieve the requisite grades, but very few people make claims. It seems to me that, to avoid litigation this year, the best thing to do would be to disregard the HAT and assess candidates on the other information contained in an application.

I’m of the same opinion. Thank you for the professional insight!

Reply 67

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by Stiffy Byng
The University's lawyers are probably half way through writing Pearson a fairly grumpy letter. I've done a lot of litigation about IT projects, and have a somewhat jaded view of IT contractors. They tend to string things out when sued, just as some of them string things out when working on projects.
I am told by Oxford Dons that, each January, and again each August they are deluged with threats of litigation (and sometimes worse) by irate parents of students who have been rejected or who failed to achieve the requisite grades, but very few people make claims. It seems to me that, to avoid litigation this year, the best thing to do would be to disregard the HAT and assess candidates on the other information contained in an application.

I see, that is very interesting. The fact that parents sue the university simply because they child did not get an offer is quite absurd. Also a quick note to all the people arguing under my thread - everything happens for a reason, and in particular, ones definition of whether something is considered “fair” or not is effectively subjective. If the HAT is disregarded and you are like me (you have to do the TSA as well), will you be purely based on that?

Reply 68

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by Anonymous
Let me know how it goes!


I didn’t get round to it today, I didn’t have the time. If there’s been no correspondence after tomorrow, I may call on Friday.

Reply 69

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by Anonymous
I didn’t get round to it today, I didn’t have the time. If there’s been no correspondence after tomorrow, I may call on Friday.

It seems that there hasn't been any just yet. Keep me updated :smile:

Reply 70

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by Anonymous
It seems that there hasn't been any just yet. Keep me updated :smile:


Their X Account says they will be considering those who couldn’t take the test without it. I also read elsewhere, in the past, where similar situations have arisen, they considered whether the evidence on a UCAS form, indicates whether they’d have done well.

Reply 71

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by Eg3756
Their X Account says they will be considering those who couldn’t take the test without it. I also read elsewhere, in the past, where similar situations have arisen, they considered whether the evidence on a UCAS form, indicates whether they’d have done well.

I know! I think the confusion (which is what I was asking about) moreso lies in how the HAT is going to be weighted more broadly for applicants who managed to take the exam, given that some are wondering whether they will be put under more scrutiny for their performance since those who didn’t, by no fault of their own, will only be judged off of good marks and references without that extra hurdle. Our situation definitely isn’t unprecedented and cancellations were not on the scale of the ELAT, but I think many of us would like to hear colleges share their piece about how the technical issues will impact the broader applicant pool.

Reply 72

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by Anonymous
I know! I think the confusion (which is what I was asking about) moreso lies in how the HAT is going to be weighted more broadly for applicants who managed to take the exam, given that some are wondering whether they will be put under more scrutiny for their performance since those who didn’t, by no fault of their own, will only be judged off of good marks and references without that extra hurdle. Our situation definitely isn’t unprecedented and cancellations were not on the scale of the ELAT, but I think many of us would like to hear colleges share their piece about how the technical issues will impact the broader applicant pool.


Well I’ve emailed my application college. I’d advise you to do the same.

Reply 73

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by Eg3756
Well I’ve emailed my application college. I’d advise you to do the same.

Have you heard from your application college yet? Have heard nothing here from the college, including about the written work etc. HAT went fine with no tech issues here.

Reply 74

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by Anonymous
Have you heard from your application college yet? Have heard nothing here from the college, including about the written work etc. HAT went fine with no tech issues here.


I have literally just received an email from my college confirming my application and informing me of details about written work, though no mention of the HAT troubles.

Reply 75

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by Eg3756
Well I’ve emailed my application college. I’d advise you to do the same.

I likely will today. What'd you specifically ask?

Reply 76

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by Anonymous
I have literally just received an email from my college confirming my application and informing me of details about written work, though no mention of the HAT troubles.

Oh great, thanks for replying. Hopefully all the emails are on their way then. I hoped that might be the case when there was the post about hearing allocation from an open application 👍

Reply 77

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by Anonymous
I likely will today. What'd you specifically ask?


How the HAT was going to be considered.

Reply 78

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by Eg3756
How the HAT was going to be considered.

Great! Would you be open to posting their response here? I’m planning on asking anyway but it may help to compare statements from colleges on the issue.

Reply 79

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by Anonymous
Great! Would you be open to posting their response here? I’m planning on asking anyway but it may help to compare statements from colleges on the issue.


Apologies, but i’m not comfortable sharing email correspondence’s between myself and the college. I’d imagine that it’s the same situation for all colleges, though if you are in doubt, I’d say to get in touch with yours.

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