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Applying for a Law llb

hi, I'm an international student applying with A levels. Im currently taking Greek, History, and physics. My predicted grades are either A*A*C or A*A*B, as the phyisics grade hasn't been finalized yet. I want to study law in the UK and specifically a russel group. What would my chances for admission be when applying to the following unis?(Considering I have a strong LNAT score, strong reference, and good personal statement with loads of extracurriculars) My IGCSEs are 8888777.How accurate is the UCAS percent of success under every course?

Bristol, Durham, Nottingham, Warwick, Exeter, Cardiff (5 of these if I get A*A*B)

Nottingham, Cardiff, Southampton, Liverpool, Exeter, Newcastle, Leeds (5 of these If i get A*A*C)

Thanks in advance!
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Original post by spirosk
hi, I'm an international student applying with A levels. Im currently taking Greek, History, and physics. My predicted grades are either A*A*C or A*A*B, as the phyisics grade hasn't been finalized yet. I want to study law in the UK and specifically a russel group. What would my chances for admission be when applying to the following unis?(Considering I have a strong LNAT score, strong reference, and good personal statement with loads of extracurriculars) My IGCSEs are 8888777.How accurate is the UCAS percent of success under every course?
Bristol, Durham, Nottingham, Warwick, Exeter, Cardiff (5 of these if I get A*A*B)
Nottingham, Cardiff, Southampton, Liverpool, Exeter, Newcastle, Leeds (5 of these If i get A*A*C)
Thanks in advance!

How many of those unis require AAA or higher?
Reply 2
Original post by ageshallnot
How many of those unis require AAA or higher?

well, they all say their "typical offers" arw A*AA or AAA, however on ucas it shows that bristol for example has accepted ABB before
Original post by spirosk
well, they all say their "typical offers" arw A*AA or AAA, however on ucas it shows that bristol for example has accepted ABB before

Was that for contextual offers? If so, that won't apply to you and your B could be a major problem.
Original post by spirosk
well, they all say their "typical offers" arw A*AA or AAA, however on ucas it shows that bristol for example has accepted ABB before
I may be wrong but I believe that the tool on UCAS shows the proportion accepted in the summer. Those individuals may have had high predicted grades and then missed their offers but were still allowed in - I don't think it is an indicator that those with those predicted grades got in necessarily. Also, as has been mentioned, those students may have had contextual offers. Therefore while applying to maybe one or two above your predicted might be okay as reaches, I wouldn't personally only apply there if my grades were below. However, it is totally up to you to make your decision!
Reply 5
Original post by ageshallnot
Was that for contextual offers? If so, that won't apply to you and your B could be a major problem.

no, the contextual offer was AAB
Reply 6
Original post by lawofducks123
I may be wrong but I believe that the tool on UCAS shows the proportion accepted in the summer. Those individuals may have had high predicted grades and then missed their offers but were still allowed in - I don't think it is an indicator that those with those predicted grades got in necessarily. Also, as has been mentioned, those students may have had contextual offers. Therefore while applying to maybe one or two above your predicted might be okay as reaches, I wouldn't personally only apply there if my grades were below. However, it is totally up to you to make your decision!

well if I have 2 A*s won't it average out ?
Original post by spirosk
no, the contextual offer was AAB

ok, but the key point is that A*A*B does not meet requirements of AAA or better.
Original post by spirosk
well if I have 2 A*s won't it average out ?

Not automatically.
Reply 9
Original post by ageshallnot
ok, but the key point is that A*A*B does not meet requirements of AAA or better.

so then what RG unis can i apply to?
Original post by spirosk
so then what RG unis can i apply to?

I don't know offhand but there will be some. You need to do some research and whether some unis will treat your grades as equivalent. You also need to look at non RG unis.
Reply 11
Original post by ageshallnot
I don't know offhand but there will be some. You need to do some research and whether some unis will treat your grades as equivalent. You also need to look at non RG unis.

the 2 A*s dont count for anything even if I have a B?
Original post by spirosk
the 2 A*s dont count for anything even if I have a B?

Yes if they're flexible, no if the minimum standard is A in every subject.
Original post by spirosk
the 2 A*s dont count for anything even if I have a B?

The problem which you face is that most competitive universities may be looking for a similar level of performance across three subjects, as an indication of ability to handle workload and of the presence of more than one or two intellectual arrows in your intellectual quiver. The latter may have significance if, for example, you have to wrestle simultaneously with the law of offences against the person and the law of constructive trusts, which are very different things.

Also, being over subscribed, the most competitive universities get to be picky. Every year universities do admit people who fell short of the target grades in one subject, but, at the offer stage, when working on predictions, some universities may hang tough and call for at least three As.

If you can push the B to an A, then applying with achieved grades and taking a gap year may be the way ahead. There is a lot to be said for gap years. If you finish sixth form with three As or better, you could then look at Oxford and other popular RG places.
Reply 14
Original post by Stiffy Byng
The problem which you face is that most competitive universities may be looking for a similar level of performance across three subjects, as an indication of ability to handle workload and of the presence of more than one or two intellectual arrows in your intellectual quiver. The latter may have significance if, for example, you have to wrestle simultaneously with the law of offences against the person and the law of constructive trusts, which are very different things.
Also, being over subscribed, the most competitive universities get to be picky. Every year universities do admit people who fell short of the target grades in one subject, but, at the offer stage, when working on predictions, some universities may hang tough and call for at least three As.
If you can push the B to an A, then applying with achieved grades and taking a gap year may be the way ahead. There is a lot to be said for gap years. If you finish sixth form with three As or better, you could then look at Oxford and other popular RG places.

Unfortunately, I dont have the option of a gap year. Ucas states that these universities have taken lower grades than they claim to take. Even for durham, for example, it is stated that theyve even accepted AAB (not contextual as stated per ucas). If some people have already received such lower offers, why couldnt I?
Why isn't a gap year an option?

You can but try, but it might be that those who are accepted with AAB etc can put forward individual circumstances.
Original post by spirosk
hi, I'm an international student applying with A levels. Im currently taking Greek, History, and physics. My predicted grades are either A*A*C or A*A*B, as the phyisics grade hasn't been finalized yet. I want to study law in the UK and specifically a russel group. What would my chances for admission be when applying to the following unis?(Considering I have a strong LNAT score, strong reference, and good personal statement with loads of extracurriculars) My IGCSEs are 8888777.How accurate is the UCAS percent of success under every course?
Bristol, Durham, Nottingham, Warwick, Exeter, Cardiff (5 of these if I get A*A*B)
Nottingham, Cardiff, Southampton, Liverpool, Exeter, Newcastle, Leeds (5 of these If i get A*A*C)
Thanks in advance!

Hi @spirosk

I note that you have stated you may be interested in applying to Newcastle University!

Our typical entry requirements for our Law LLB programme are AAA excluding General Studies. At Newcastle, our offers are based on grades in three A Levels, rather than cumulative UCAS Tariff points.

As such, if you would like to check your eligibility, please fill out our Enquiries form including details of all the qualifications that you have achieved so far or are currently taking, including:

The name of the qualification (e.g. A level, BTEC, GCSE)
The subjects/units covered
Any grades/marks obtained/predicted, and the year of award

At this stage we do not need you to send copies of your certificates, please just provide a brief summary.

Lydia 😊
Reply 17
Original post by Newcastle University
Hi @spirosk
I note that you have stated you may be interested in applying to Newcastle University!
Our typical entry requirements for our Law LLB programme are AAA excluding General Studies. At Newcastle, our offers are based on grades in three A Levels, rather than cumulative UCAS Tariff points.
As such, if you would like to check your eligibility, please fill out our Enquiries form including details of all the qualifications that you have achieved so far or are currently taking, including:
The name of the qualification (e.g. A level, BTEC, GCSE)
The subjects/units covered
Any grades/marks obtained/predicted, and the year of award
At this stage we do not need you to send copies of your certificates, please just provide a brief summary.
Lydia 😊

I've already filled out an enquiry form and the university got back to me with information that didn't seem to be relevant to my situation
Original post by spirosk
I've already filled out an enquiry form and the university got back to me with information that didn't seem to be relevant to my situation

Hi @spirosk

I'm sorry that you didn't receive the information that you were looking for.

If you would like further advice about your eligibility to apply to Newcastle University, please get in touch by emailing [email protected] and we shall be able to help you further or direct your query to the correct place.

Elliott :smile:
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