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Universal Credit?

I'm 18m and I'm not going to uni. I am hoping to pass some music exams in the summer next year which will let me either join an army band or actually teach music theory/the flute (self-employed).
According to UK government calculators I should be eligible for £72 a week Universal Credit whilst I'm currently unemployed. And £53 when I'm teaching music for example.

My question is:
Will they give me the UC if I explain I'm studying fulltime for my flute exams to set myself up or will they force me to accept any random jobs they offer me?

If anyone can help, I really appreciate it!!! Thanks

Reply 1

There's no way I will have time to get a job before I take the exams because I have to practice the flute, and care for a family member a couple of hours a day.

Apparently they assign you a work coach and say you have to search for jobs 4hrs a week, but I don't know if I will be able to do that.

Reply 2

The income replacement part of universal credit is for people who are available and looking for work, and because of your age they will be even more intent to get you into a job or training quickly, like 1-2 weeks.

Asking to be giving funding while you stay home and learn the flute for months is just not realistic IMO, most people would call that a luxury. The fact it's self study with no accreditation or defined job at the end doesn't help either. When push comes to shove, everyone with a job is expected to fit their hobbies, development and family responsibilities around that, you can't walk into a jobcentre and say you've no time for a job.

Reply 3

Original post by StriderHort
The income replacement part of universal credit is for people who are available and looking for work, and because of your age they will be even more intent to get you into a job or training quickly, like 1-2 weeks.
Asking to be giving funding while you stay home and learn the flute for months is just not realistic IMO, most people would call that a luxury. The fact it's self study with no accreditation or defined job at the end doesn't help either. When push comes to shove, everyone with a job is expected to fit their hobbies, development and family responsibilities around that, you can't walk into a jobcentre and say you've no time for a job.

Ok that's what I thought, thanks.

Reply 4

Original post by StriderHort
The income replacement part of universal credit is for people who are available and looking for work, and because of your age they will be even more intent to get you into a job or training quickly, like 1-2 weeks.
Asking to be giving funding while you stay home and learn the flute for months is just not realistic IMO, most people would call that a luxury. The fact it's self study with no accreditation or defined job at the end doesn't help either. When push comes to shove, everyone with a job is expected to fit their hobbies, development and family responsibilities around that, you can't walk into a jobcentre and say you've no time for a job.

I'll just apply once I've set myself up as self-employed.

Reply 5

Original post by StriderHort
The income replacement part of universal credit is for people who are available and looking for work, and because of your age they will be even more intent to get you into a job or training quickly, like 1-2 weeks.
Asking to be giving funding while you stay home and learn the flute for months is just not realistic IMO, most people would call that a luxury. The fact it's self study with no accreditation or defined job at the end doesn't help either. When push comes to shove, everyone with a job is expected to fit their hobbies, development and family responsibilities around that, you can't walk into a jobcentre and say you've no time for a job.

I should probably add though that it's a Level 4 qualification in music so equivalent to the first year of a degree. It's not like I'm staying at home to get a Grade 3.

But you're right about it not being realistic.

Reply 6

Original post by Anonymous
I should probably add though that it's a Level 4 qualification in music so equivalent to the first year of a degree. It's not like I'm staying at home to get a Grade 3.
But you're right about it not being realistic.

Yeah I get you're saying the exams you want to sit at the end would give you a qualification, but the DWP likely wouldn't consider self study beforehand to be be the same as structured and assessed study like an enrolled student, not that they would pay unemployment related UC for either of them.

Is working part time not an option? Plenty of places hiring for winter part timers and anything around the 16-24 hour mark tends to keep the DWP off your back if you still wanted to claim, plus you get to keep some of the UC payments on top of wages.

Reply 7

Original post by StriderHort
Yeah I get you're saying the exams you want to sit at the end would give you a qualification, but the DWP likely wouldn't consider self study beforehand to be be the same as structured and assessed study like an enrolled student, not that they would pay unemployment related UC for either of them.
Is working part time not an option? Plenty of places hiring for winter part timers and anything around the 16-24 hour mark tends to keep the DWP off your back if you still wanted to claim, plus you get to keep some of the UC payments on top of wages.

Yeah I understand. I might consider working part time, thanks for your help!

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