I think it rather rude to be so utterly dismissive of my son’s degree, his university and many cohorts of graduates. I think you will find that AIRBUS currently run their 40 month degree apprenticeship in collaboration with Swansea University (part of their blurb posted below). The degree that is awarded at the end of the apprenticeship is the exact same BEng (Hons) Aerospace Engineering degree that my son earned. The AIRBUS. degree apprentices (I gather they travel from sites in Bristol and N Wales) and the regular Aerospave students use the same facilities, labs and receive the same lectures.
My son also completed his final year project in collaboration with ROLLS ROYCE and was mentored through his entire third year by a Swansea alumni, a man who is a current employee at ROLLS ROYCE.
The current Professor of Aerospace at Swansea is one of the lead engineers on the Bloodhound project. I also understand that Swansea is one of the few universities in the country to currently offer a rotorcraft module. This has been useful to my son when applying for and completing internships. It is obviously not only about the university you attend but the internships that you complete and your extra curricular activities, for example, Formula Student and Rocketry Society seem to serve one well when it comes to the example questions on grad recruitment online applications. Both AWE and MBDA put my son through several selection rounds (so clearly a Swansea qualification did not lead to any automatic discrimination ), but ultimately, he has decided that another year of more specific study at Cranfield University is his preference.
Current blurb on the Airbus degree apprenticeship site:
About us:
The Airbus Engineering Degree Apprenticeship gives you the “university experience” with 3 whole years of invaluable industry experience. Achieve a BEng (Hons) Aerospace Engineering from Swansea University whilst earning a full-time salary and paying ZERO fees to do so.
This unique 40 month programme not only offers you a degree from one of the most highly-recognised engineering institutes in the country, but together with vocational training and placements in design, manufacturing and quality engineering, you will develop excellent engineering skills recognised across the globe.
My son also had offers from other universities including Loughborough, Sheffield, and Southampton Uni but chose Swansea for cost of living reasons. The costs are very different to those incurred by previous generations. I studiedcat Durham University in the ‘90s for free. My son and daughter (Exeter uni) both have student loan debt of over £50k. This year’s students will be expected to pay their loans back over 40 years with interest rates of circa 6 to 7%. The sky high cost of accommodation in cities like London and Nottingham, can be exceptionally prohibitive to some 18 year-olds and to their parents.
My son was also offered a Propulsion MSc at Southampton Uni. I believe this university is currently top three for Aerospace in the country, (offers are A*AA for undergrads) but has again chosen another uni, Cranfield, for a variety of reasons.
Anyway, Ivan. I would suggest you visit everywhere that you plan to place on your UCAS form and talk to the lecturers and current students at length. Where you end up might very much depend on the grades that you achieve, your interests and hobbies or affordability. This is three to four years of your early adult life that you will hopefully enjoy and remember forever. The overall university experience, the societies, the campus, the quality of the life that you will be able to lead there, are also important factors in your decision making.