Uclan physician associate September 2025 entry

I'm happy with my university and I'm happy with the course I'm doing.
It really doesn't concern you unless you are on the course and from the questions you are asking I can assume you are not. You can wait until the leng review is published and read it yourself to see what the future of PAs will hold instead of coming out with arbitrary statements based on speculation of what the outcome of the review will be. You have no direct input into the future of the role or the leng review itself.

The course I am on is a 4 year integrated Masters course, I, like anyone else going to university in this day and age did my research before applying.
Yes THEY DO TEACH TO THE MEDICAL MODEL. I do the first 2 years of medical school (so we have the SAME pre clinical years as medical students) and then join with the 2 year Msc PA students for my 3rd and 4th year, whilst the medical students go on to do their clinical years 3-5)
In the FIRST 2 YEARS (preclinical years for med students):

I spoke on a panel myself as a student when the GMC came to visit the university when they were preparing for regulation and the outcome just shows that they are happy with the course and the PA profession as they decided to regulate them. Like I said everything doesn't get fixed overnight, yes PAs have been used in the past to cover jobs that aren't within their competencies and this is why regulation came into place. To help standardise this.
Courses that don't meet the requirements will obviously be given guidance on what they should change to meet these. Just like any medical school has to produce a 5 year cohort to become GMC accredited. If a medical school didn't meet these criteria you think they would just stop their medicine course? Of course not. You seem to just make assumptions instead of educating yourself on the actual process of how things work in these institutions. Those universities have stopped intake for the current academic year, they haven't stopped the course altogether and some of these universities are new to providing the course. My university has no intention of stopping the course. if they knew something that would imply that the future of PAs would be negative then they would've stopped it. But they haven't. Those universities that have put a pause on their intake are waiting for the review to be published as ,of course, you can't know anything else about the future of PAs without the outcome of the review. There are still plenty of courses that are well established and have produced many cohorts of practicing PAs that are still running the course. Also anyone who graduates the course can't just get a job they have to pass the PA national exam - the PARA just like medical students have to pass the MLA.
Warned me about what?😂 I currently work part time whilst doing the degree as a Band 3. PAs won't be Band 3/4 they'd be too overqualified. They don't even accept those with a BSc for my job as they are overqualified so why would you think that someone holding a Master's qualification would be a band 3. A band 3 is entry level. In the NHS the starting salary for those with a BSc is band 5. Like in any profession it is up to the newly graduate to have built up a portfolio which will make them stand out and to make connections when applying to competitive jobs. Those who have newly graduated from my course made connections on placement and were offered jobs there and then so obviously there are opportunities there that aren't publicly advertised on NHS job websites. No one would want to be a PA or a Dr for the money that is a ridiculous thing to say, especially in the UK 😂 healthcare professionals are going abroad to get paid more. And no it's not just a vocational course, like with a medicine degree not everyone who has one becomes a doctor. You're not doing the course and you're not a PA so you need to stop spreading false information.

You don't know what the medical model means in terms of PAs so you can't have done much research. It isn't anything to do with medicine or teaching medicine. Find out what the US PAs used it to describe. I has been adopted from them.
When you did your research into a vocational course that only leads to one job did you also do any research into how many jobs were being advertised. Can I suggest that you do that research now while you still have time to transfer to a course that will improve your employment prospects?
There are currently a lot of unemployed PAs. They are unemployed because the numbers of jobs has reduced and because the universities have been running courses with more people studying on them than there are jobs for them. That wouldn't matter if the course was not a vocational course leading to only one job but PA studies is a vocational course leading to only one job so if you can't get that job the qualifications are worthless. However you already know this because you researched this course before you started it?

Yes it is to do with the training the university provides - which is the teaching of the medicine content 🤦🏽*♀️
Physician associates train using the medical model, similar to doctors but with a shorter and more focused curriculum, which means they focus on the testing, diagnosis, and treatment of the DISEASE that the patient has. So that they are able to diagnose, treat, and manage patients under the supervision of a physician.
Nurses train on the nursing model, which means they focus on the testing, diagnosis, and treatment of the PATIENT with the disease.
Why would anyone who decided to do the course want to transfer? It may surprise you but we actually want to become physician associates 😯 who would've thought?
So would you say the same thing to those studying medicine or nursing, to drop out or transfer, because many of them are struggling to get jobs too?
Yes I'm happy with the research I have done and I know there are job opportunities in my local area 👍🏻😊 sounds like you're the one who's unhappy.

Yes it is to do with the training the university provides - which is the teaching of the medicine content 🤦🏽*♀️
Physician associates train using the medical model, similar to doctors but with a shorter and more focused curriculum, which means they focus on the testing, diagnosis, and treatment of the DISEASE that the patient has. So that they are able to diagnose, treat, and manage patients under the supervision of a physician.
Nurses train on the nursing model, which means they focus on the testing, diagnosis, and treatment of the PATIENT with the disease.
Why would anyone who decided to do the course want to transfer? It may surprise you but we actually want to become physician associates 😯 who would've thought?
So would you say the same thing to those studying medicine or nursing, to drop out or transfer, because many of them are struggling to get jobs too?
Yes I'm happy with the research I have done and I know there are job opportunities in my local area 👍🏻😊 sounds like you're the one who's unhappy.

The course I am on is a 4 year integrated Masters course, I, like anyone else going to university in this day and age did my research before applying.
Yes THEY DO TEACH TO THE MEDICAL MODEL. I do the first 2 years of medical school (so we have the SAME pre clinical years as medical students) and then join with the 2 year Msc PA students for my 3rd and 4th year, whilst the medical students go on to do their clinical years 3-5)
In the FIRST 2 YEARS (preclinical years for med students):

I spoke on a panel myself as a student when the GMC came to visit the university when they were preparing for regulation and the outcome just shows that they are happy with the course and the PA profession as they decided to regulate them. Like I said everything doesn't get fixed overnight, yes PAs have been used in the past to cover jobs that aren't within their competencies and this is why regulation came into place. To help standardise this.
Courses that don't meet the requirements will obviously be given guidance on what they should change to meet these. Just like any medical school has to produce a 5 year cohort to become GMC accredited. If a medical school didn't meet these criteria you think they would just stop their medicine course? Of course not. You seem to just make assumptions instead of educating yourself on the actual process of how things work in these institutions. Those universities have stopped intake for the current academic year, they haven't stopped the course altogether and some of these universities are new to providing the course. My university has no intention of stopping the course. if they knew something that would imply that the future of PAs would be negative then they would've stopped it. But they haven't. Those universities that have put a pause on their intake are waiting for the review to be published as ,of course, you can't know anything else about the future of PAs without the outcome of the review. There are still plenty of courses that are well established and have produced many cohorts of practicing PAs that are still running the course. Also anyone who graduates the course can't just get a job they have to pass the PA national exam - the PARA just like medical students have to pass the MLA.
Warned me about what?😂 I currently work part time whilst doing the degree as a Band 3. PAs won't be Band 3/4 they'd be too overqualified. They don't even accept those with a BSc for my job as they are overqualified so why would you think that someone holding a Master's qualification would be a band 3. A band 3 is entry level. In the NHS the starting salary for those with a BSc is band 5. Like in any profession it is up to the newly graduate to have built up a portfolio which will make them stand out and to make connections when applying to competitive jobs. Those who have newly graduated from my course made connections on placement and were offered jobs there and then so obviously there are opportunities there that aren't publicly advertised on NHS job websites. No one would want to be a PA or a Dr for the money that is a ridiculous thing to say, especially in the UK 😂 healthcare professionals are going abroad to get paid more. And no it's not just a vocational course, like with a medicine degree not everyone who has one becomes a doctor. You're not doing the course and you're not a PA so you need to stop spreading false information.

You did your research 4+ years ago 🤣. Grow up. I did mine last year and was happy. Now, within a year of being on the course, everything has changed about the prospect of the role lmao. Its not looking good

Yes it is to do with the training the university provides - which is the teaching of the medicine content 🤦🏽*♀️
Physician associates train using the medical model, similar to doctors but with a shorter and more focused curriculum, which means they focus on the testing, diagnosis, and treatment of the DISEASE that the patient has. So that they are able to diagnose, treat, and manage patients under the supervision of a physician.
Nurses train on the nursing model, which means they focus on the testing, diagnosis, and treatment of the PATIENT with the disease.
Why would anyone who decided to do the course want to transfer? It may surprise you but we actually want to become physician associates 😯 who would've thought?
So would you say the same thing to those studying medicine or nursing, to drop out or transfer, because many of them are struggling to get jobs too?
Yes I'm happy with the research I have done and I know there are job opportunities in my local area 👍🏻😊 sounds like you're the one who's unhappy.

Honestly, there’s no point engaging with these people. I tried defending the profession, but the same few accounts just kept repeating the same arguments over and over. We’re not going to get through to them and we don’t even need to. All they do is sit behind a screen attacking PAs instead of letting people make their own informed decisions.

GP's are worried about hiring PAs due to concerns about insurance and indemnity, especially regarding supervision and delegation. GPs are ultimately responsible for the actions of PAs they supervise, including delegation of tasks.While NHS Resolution provides indemnity for clinical negligence, it may not cover all aspects of PA supervision, such as non-clinical advice or regulatory matters. Some GPs may need to seek additional insurance or medical defence organization (MDO) cover to fully protect themselves against potential legal risks. There's a potential risk of legal action against GPs if a PA makes a mistake or causes harm to a patient.Some insurance companies may not offer comprehensive coverage for supervising PAs, or may increase premiums to reflect the added risk. The lack of clarity regarding the role of PAs and the extent of GP supervision may lead to uncertainty about insurance coverage, causing some GPs to be reluctant to hire them

The university accepted you onto one of its masters courses so it should be possible for you to transfer to a different masters at the same university with much better prospects for a job.

You would think that... but the only options we were given is to : leave with no compensation, defer , or to go onto non medical related courses such as Law or join the Aldi graduate scheme !

I am an MPAS student at uclan, the uni is actually saying they are getting positive vibes from the leng review and less than 12 months ago their employability rate from graduates was 100%. They are submitting evidence towards the leng review to show how robust and rigourous the course is and so is every other PA school. Last year I also attended a meeting when with members of the GMC before regulation when they came to visit uclan and they were very impressed about the structure of the course. Yes you might get placed far on your placements but this is a possibility at any university and on any course.
The university was giving us options on what we could do IF WE wanted to leave the course such as getting a clinical science Bsc or diploma however. They emphasised that they believe it is best if we stay on the course (and finish this current academic year) and wait for the outcome of the leng review before we decide what we'd like to do & again they said from discussions they've has with other universities and this conducting the leng review the future of PAs is looking positive for the next few years. Yes, at the minute job prospects arent the best but this is expected during a time of limbo like this, once this has all blown over there will be an increase in jobs because the GMC wouldn't have regulated PAs if they weren't needed. At the end of the end it's YOUR own decision if you want to do the course, if your bright enough to secure a place then you're more than capable of making a decision based on everything you've seen or heard.