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LSE law contextual offer grades?

Hi so im predicted AAC was predicted unfairly imo for maths C but i can change it after mocks to a B and possibly A if i do rlly well. LSE law contextual offer is AAB so do i have a chance of getting in with AAB or AAA predicted?
Original post by mnbvowmv
Hi so im predicted AAC was predicted unfairly imo for maths C but i can change it after mocks to a B and possibly A if i do rlly well. LSE law contextual offer is AAB so do i have a chance of getting in with AAB or AAA predicted?

At AAB, possibly not. But you stand a (slim) chance at AAA predicted.

According to UCAS (here) the lowest grades the LSE have accepted for Law in recent years were AAA, although only 33% of candidates who received an offer and then achieved AAA were accepted.

(Note that UCAS ignore the top and bottom 5% of candidates when compiling these statistics.)
Reply 2
Original post by DataVenia
At AAB, possibly not. But you stand a (slim) chance at AAA predicted.
According to UCAS (here) the lowest grades the LSE have accepted for Law in recent years were AAA, although only 33% of candidates who received an offer and then achieved AAA were accepted.
(Note that UCAS ignore the top and bottom 5% of candidates when compiling these statistics.)

i read the further details about the UCAS tool and it said that it doesn't include contextual data so the lowest offer of AAA was to a non-contextual student but i am contextual. thanks for the reply anyways :smile:
Original post by mnbvowmv
i read the further details about the UCAS tool and it said that it doesn't include contextual data so the lowest offer of AAA was to a non-contextual student but i am contextual. thanks for the reply anyways :smile:

I think perhaps you've misinterpreted what they've said. To quote:

"Providers can make contextual offers to students who have faced any circumstances or challenges that may have impacted education or qualifications. These types of offers are not flagged into the tool."

So contextual offers are included. They're just not flagged such that you can distinguish them from standard offers.

They also say:

""We remove the top/bottom 5% of students from our course data before making our calculations on course data. This is to exclude any extraordinary circumstances that we cannot represent within the data. As such the data is based on 90% of the 18 year old student (or younger) population in England, Wales and Northern Ireland with the relevant qualifications."

We can probably assume that the top 5% of offers (excluded as per the above) are not contextual offers, although some or all of the bottom 5% (also excluded) likely are. We know that of those who received offers and went on to obtain AAA, 33% were accepted. So there's clearly a chunk of AAA candidates (probably contextual) in the bottom 5% too. The chance of there being a AAB candidate in there is almost nil.

How likely a contextual AAA candidate is to receive and offer, or a place, is difficult to determine. But the odds don't look good to me.
UCL does AAB contextual offers and I'm not convinced an LSE degree is substantially better
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Original post by Academic007
UCL does AAB contextual offers and I'm not convinced an LSE degree is substantially better

ucl changed their contextual requirement i think so im not eligible unfortunately but thanks :smile:
Reply 6
Original post by DataVenia
I think perhaps you've misinterpreted what they've said. To quote:
"Providers can make contextual offers to students who have faced any circumstances or challenges that may have impacted education or qualifications. These types of offers are not flagged into the tool."
So contextual offers are included. They're just not flagged such that you can distinguish them from standard offers.
They also say:
""We remove the top/bottom 5% of students from our course data before making our calculations on course data. This is to exclude any extraordinary circumstances that we cannot represent within the data. As such the data is based on 90% of the 18 year old student (or younger) population in England, Wales and Northern Ireland with the relevant qualifications."
We can probably assume that the top 5% of offers (excluded as per the above) are not contextual offers, although some or all of the bottom 5% (also excluded) likely are. We know that of those who received offers and went on to obtain AAA, 33% were accepted. So there's clearly a chunk of AAA candidates (probably contextual) in the bottom 5% too. The chance of there being a AAB candidate in there is almost nil.
How likely a contextual AAA candidate is to receive and offer, or a place, is difficult to determine. But the odds don't look good to me.

I read what the page said about the tool and it said
"When a university or college consider an application, it helps them to know if students have faced any circumstances or challenges that may have impacted education or qualifications, and in these cases they may make students contextual offers. This data is not given to UCAS so is not reflected in our tool. However, directly above the data there is a contextual admissions field where providers may signpost to more information in their policies."
so i dont think that the tool includes contextual offers.
Original post by mnbvowmv
I read what the page said about the tool and it said
"When a university or college consider an application, it helps them to know if students have faced any circumstances or challenges that may have impacted education or qualifications, and in these cases they may make students contextual offers. This data is not given to UCAS so is not reflected in our tool. However, directly above the data there is a contextual admissions field where providers may signpost to more information in their policies."
so i dont think that the tool includes contextual offers.

Well, it appears that we've read the same explanation and reached different conclusions then.
Original post by DataVenia
Well, it appears that we've read the same explanation and reached different conclusions then.

Every time I've read that I've reached your conclusion - if ucas don't know what offers are contextual how can they remove them from the tool....
Original post by mnbvowmv
Hi so im predicted AAC was predicted unfairly imo for maths C but i can change it after mocks to a B and possibly A if i do rlly well. LSE law contextual offer is AAB so do i have a chance of getting in with AAB or AAA predicted?

You can get in tbf with AAB, but your lnat will need to be pretty good too as well as personal statement!
Original post by mnbvowmv
ucl changed their contextual requirement i think so im not eligible unfortunately but thanks :smile:

Have they? As far as I know UCL and Kings have the same contextual requirements.

I would look into this, if you qualify for LSE contextual you will certainly qualify at UCL or Kings.
Reply 11
Original post by AmIReallyHere
You can get in tbf with AAB, but your lnat will need to be pretty good too as well as personal statement!

okay thanks!
Reply 12
Original post by DataVenia
Well, it appears that we've read the same explanation and reached different conclusions then.

i emailed them and you are right but they said that the proportion of contextual students is usually quite low so doesnt affect the average grade and also like you said the bottom 5% of grades are removed since majoirty of students using the tool are not contextual. with AAA predicted as a contextual student with a strong ps and LNAT do i have a chance? since alr 1 in 3 students with AAA who prob arent contextual were accepted
Reply 13
Original post by Academic007
Have they? As far as I know UCL and Kings have the same contextual requirements.
I would look into this, if you qualify for LSE contextual you will certainly qualify at UCL or Kings.

yeah im eligible through free school meals but ucl and kcl dont take that into consideration for contextual
Original post by mnbvowmv
i emailed them and you are right but they said that the proportion of contextual students is usually quite low so doesnt affect the average grade and also like you said the bottom 5% of grades are removed since majoirty of students using the tool are not contextual. with AAA predicted as a contextual student with a strong ps and LNAT do i have a chance? since alr 1 in 3 students with AAA who prob arent contextual were accepted

If you manage to secure an AAA prediction, then yes - you stand a chance of an offer. Assuming, as you say, you have a strong personal statement and LNAT result.
Reply 15
Original post by DataVenia
If you manage to secure an AAA prediction, then yes - you stand a chance of an offer. Assuming, as you say, you have a strong personal statement and LNAT result.

do you reckon theyd take AAB with a strong personal statement and LNAT? cause AAB meets their contextual requirements and I saw people with 4 A* rejected but people who just met the standard entry requirement being accepted
Original post by mnbvowmv
do you reckon theyd take AAB with a strong personal statement and LNAT? cause AAB meets their contextual requirements and I saw people with 4 A* rejected but people who just met the standard entry requirement being accepted

Perhaps, but from the data available on the UCAS site, I'd say it's unlikely. I reckon the lowest they'd go is AAA (predicted). But hey, I might be wrong.
(edited 2 weeks ago)

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