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Integrating parametric equations - Help A level Maths

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I've done a and b but need help with c and d

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Reply 1

could you please send us a picture of figure 6? Thanks

Reply 2

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by SamwiseNathenMay
could you please send us a picture of figure 6? Thanks
I've done that now

Reply 3

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by minicat101
I've done that now

Have you worked out the integrand? So y dx/dtheta dtheta? Or whats the problem?

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by mqb2766
Have you worked out the integrand? So y dx/dtheta dtheta? Or whats the problem?

I think dx/theta=-24sinthetha cos^2(thetha)
But then I don't know how to change the limits or rearrange it into the required form

Reply 5

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by minicat101
I think dx/theta=-24sinthetha cos^2(thetha)
But then I don't know how to change the limits or rearrange it into the required form

Sure, so multipy it by y and what are the limits for theta going from left to right.

Reply 6

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by mqb2766
Sure, so multipy it by y and what are the limits for theta going from left to right.

I think the limits are x=0 and then I made y=0 to get theta =0 and the subbed it into x to get x=8

Reply 7

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by minicat101
I think the limits are x=0 and then I made y=0 to get theta =0 and the subbed it into x to get x=8

Youre integrating wrt theta, not x. What are the limits for theta going from left to right

Reply 8

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by mqb2766
Youre integrating wrt theta, not x. What are the limits for theta going from left to right
I got pi/2 and 0 but I'm not sure if they're right

Reply 9

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by minicat101
I got pi/2 and 0 but I'm not sure if they're right

Looking at the ans, what might the 4 represent and why are they integrating between 0 and pi/3 - what do those points represent?

A fair bit of questions like this is to look at the ans and work back a bit. Theres a few questions you should be asking yourself

where does the negative part of dx/dtheta go? Why is there no sin^2 in the integrand as thats what y is / why is there the subtraction of two trig terms?

What does the 4 represent? Why the limits theta=0 and pi/3

If you can get a rough answer to those before you start writing, it should be fairly straightforward.

Reply 10

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by mqb2766
Looking at the ans, what might the 4 represent and why are they integrating between 0 and pi/3 - what do those points represent?
A fair bit of questions like this is to look at the ans and work back a bit. Theres a few questions you should be asking yourself

where does the negative part of dx/dtheta go? Why is there no sin^2 in the integrand as thats what y is / why is there the subtraction of two trig terms?

What does the 4 represent? Why the limits theta=0 and pi/3

If you can get a rough answer to those before you start writing, it should be fairly straightforward.

So the limits are pi/3 and 0
Then the negative part of the integral is added to the outside?
Do you have to use difference of two squares or trig identities
I don't know what the 4 represents

Reply 11

I've got that the integral between pi/3 and 0 = -144sin^3theta costheta

Reply 12

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by minicat101
I've got that the integral between pi/3 and 0 = -144sin^3theta costheta

Sure, so youre limits are the wrong way round and your integrand is negative so ....

Also you have a single term with sin^3 in, so is there an identity you could use to put it in the form they want?

Reply 13

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by mqb2766
Sure, so youre limits are the wrong way round and your integrand is negative so ....
Also you have a single term with sin^3 in, so is there an identity you could use to put it in the form they want?

Maybe sin^2theta +Cos^2theta=1

Reply 14

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by minicat101
Maybe sin^2theta +Cos^2theta=1

Its easier to simply try/do it rather than replying here?

Reply 15

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by mqb2766
Its easier to simply do it rather than replying here?

But I don't know how to do it or I would've done it myself

Reply 16

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by minicat101
But I don't know how to do it

sin^2 = 1 - cos^2
and sub it in and the integrand becomes ....

Reply 17

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by mqb2766
sin^2 = 1 - cos^2
and sub it in and the integrand becomes ....

-144sinthetha (1-cos^2theta) costheta
(edited 12 months ago)

Reply 18

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by minicat101
-144sinthetha (1-cos^dtheta) costheta

Youve lost a cos somewhere (as your original dx/dtheta was ^2) in your working and no idea what ^dtheta represents and why its in the middle.

Reply 19

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by mqb2766
Youve lost a cos somewhere (as your original dx/dtheta was ^2) in your working and no idea what ^dtheta represents and why its in the middle.

Should it be -144 sin theta (1-cos^2thetha) cos^2 theta
Then I've expanded and rearranged to get -144 sin theta + 144 cos^4 theta

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