Nice guy syndrome

Girls usually pick lads who are muscular/look older than they are, but treat them horribly. But do any girls actually like the nice guys, who wants to give them the princess treatment and spoil them with love?

Girls usually pick lads who are muscular/look older than they are, but treat them horribly. But do any girls actually like the nice guys, who wants to give them the princess treatment and spoil them with love?

no because it's an act 99% of the time, and they always end up showing their ugly side in the end

The “nice guys” are the ones who end up treating you horribly. When I’ve liked one in the past and they find out, I become the joke. “Bad boys” usually have a nicer side behind the tougher exterior and I would rather get that than vice versa.

It is possible to be nice and muscular. These are not mutually incompatible traits.

Girls usually pick lads who are muscular/look older than they are, but treat them horribly. But do any girls actually like the nice guys, who wants to give them the princess treatment and spoil them with love?

Girls usually pick lads who are muscular/look older than they are, but treat them horribly. But do any girls actually like the nice guys, who wants to give them the princess treatment and spoil them with love?

You've gone for 2 extremes here. There is a whole range of guys and girls out there.
And you are even stereotyping princesses; our late Queen, at the age of 18, was driving and maintaining vehicles for the British Army!

In my experience, nobody's perfect, but most "typical nice guys" do tend to be "nicer" than "bad boys" in the long term.
"Typical nice guy mistakes" tend to decrease the attraction that women have for them.
Any nice guy should aim to cut out the typical nice guy mistakes and to be a "positive challenge" instead of a "negative challenge". The Chris Sixty youtube channel goes into this in depth.
About 1 in 50 men is a psychopath. I'm not sure what the figure is for narcissists. Both of these groups of men tend to come over as initially charming and charismatic.
Some psychopaths are "good psychopaths" with whom it's possible to have a good enough relationship.
The less good psychopaths should be watched out for.
There's a high proportion of bad boys that are nice as pie when they're getting what they want. Put them in a stressful situation and their bad side tends to comes out. The prisons in England and Wales are filled with this type of man.
Having a nice side isn't good enough. The true mark of a man is how they respond to pressure and setbacks.
Up to a point. There's only so far men get in the muscle department with working out. After that steroids come in, With their well publicised side effects.
My dad's 3rd wife was like that.
She was the bossiest woman I've ever come across.
She lived her life leaving behind a trail or people she'd rubbed up the wrong way. Stepsons, step-daughters, hotel receptionists, waiters, airport check-in staff, shop assistants, pupils, teachers etc etc etc.
Such women do exist.
For most women, if you give them the princess treatment and spoil them with love, it's not a recipe for long term success.
Having a healthy amount of self love and self respect, combined with some self discipline and treating your beloved as a close 2nd to yourself is a recipe for success.
This is something that would take a whole book or a series of videos to explain properly.
Win win is better than a win for her and a loss for you. For most women.
And then there was my dad's 2nd wife who was 13 years older than him, physically unattractive, a nice enough person, but with no particularly attractive skills or traits apart from being a nice enough person. She felt so lucky to be with my dad that she was never going to leave him, regardless of how he treated her, within reason. So his princessing her didn't drive her away.

Girls usually pick lads who are muscular/look older than they are, but treat them horribly. But do any girls actually like the nice guys, who wants to give them the princess treatment and spoil them with love?

As someone immersed in strength sports, I find it so amusing that some believe everyone turns into raging meatheads when they touch steroids. It’s just ignorant nonsense.
You also certainly don’t need steroids to put on enough muscle to make confer an advantage when it comes to dating.

I just want to highlight that not only is the premise of this thread not true (the fact that two extremes have been identified has already been highlighted) but it's also not true that giving girls "the princess treatment and spoiling them with love" is either practical or desirable. That sort of approach is one that you see from a lot of guys who end up not being successful in relationships, because they lock themselves into the mindset that because they have bought things for a girl, that girl owes them affection (and usually sex) in return. It makes relationships very transactional, and the vast majority of such relationships simply do not work. If you are of that mindset and are wondering why you don't have more success with women, questioning that assumption that what you're offering is what women should want and instead reflecting on why perhaps they aren't attracted to it would be a good place to start.

girls usually pick lads who are muscular/look older than they are, but treat them horribly. But do any girls actually like the nice guys, who wants to give them the princess treatment and spoil them with love?

Yep. It is the classic love bombing technique. Most women with something about them are wise to it.

In my experience, nobody's perfect, but most "typical nice guys" do tend to be "nicer" than "bad boys" in the long term.
"Typical nice guy mistakes" tend to decrease the attraction that women have for them.
Any nice guy should aim to cut out the typical nice guy mistakes and to be a "positive challenge" instead of a "negative challenge". The Chris Sixty youtube channel goes into this in depth.
About 1 in 50 men is a psychopath. I'm not sure what the figure is for narcissists. Both of these groups of men tend to come over as initially charming and charismatic.
Some psychopaths are "good psychopaths" with whom it's possible to have a good enough relationship.
The less good psychopaths should be watched out for.
There's a high proportion of bad boys that are nice as pie when they're getting what they want. Put them in a stressful situation and their bad side tends to comes out. The prisons in England and Wales are filled with this type of man.
Having a nice side isn't good enough. The true mark of a man is how they respond to pressure and setbacks.
Up to a point. There's only so far men get in the muscle department with working out. After that steroids come in, With their well publicised side effects.
My dad's 3rd wife was like that.
She was the bossiest woman I've ever come across.
She lived her life leaving behind a trail or people she'd rubbed up the wrong way. Stepsons, step-daughters, hotel receptionists, waiters, airport check-in staff, shop assistants, pupils, teachers etc etc etc.
Such women do exist.
For most women, if you give them the princess treatment and spoil them with love, it's not a recipe for long term success.
Having a healthy amount of self love and self respect, combined with some self discipline and treating your beloved as a close 2nd to yourself is a recipe for success.
This is something that would take a whole book or a series of videos to explain properly.
Win win is better than a win for her and a loss for you. For most women.
And then there was my dad's 2nd wife who was 13 years older than him, physically unattractive, a nice enough person, but with no particularly attractive skills or traits apart from being a nice enough person. She felt so lucky to be with my dad that she was never going to leave him, regardless of how he treated her, within reason. So his princessing her didn't drive her away.

It is possible to be nice and muscular. These are not mutually incompatible traits.

Girls usually pick lads who are muscular/look older than they are, but treat them horribly. But do any girls actually like the nice guys, who wants to give them the princess treatment and spoil them with love?