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How can I make a strong application for architecture without a level art?

hi i’m in year 12 and im doing a levels maths, physics and english literature. i want to apply to architecture (i’ve been considering cambridge, ucl, bath, sheffield, loughborough and liverpool but my main requirement is that the degree is RIBA accredited) but i don’t do a level art since i didn’t do gcse art. i know a portfolio is required for all of these universities (except liverpool and bath but they still prefer art a level) but i really don’t know where to begin and how to make a good portfolio that will strengthen my chances. on average im okay at art, but i’ve seen incredible standards of art from accepted portfolios at these universities and really don’t know how ill be able to compete. if it’s relevant, i don’t have a level predicted grades yet and my gcses were 9999888776. any advice would help thanks
Original post by ramisha08
hi i’m in year 12 and im doing a levels maths, physics and english literature. i want to apply to architecture (i’ve been considering cambridge, ucl, bath, sheffield, loughborough and liverpool but my main requirement is that the degree is RIBA accredited) but i don’t do a level art since i didn’t do gcse art. i know a portfolio is required for all of these universities (except liverpool and bath but they still prefer art a level) but i really don’t know where to begin and how to make a good portfolio that will strengthen my chances. on average im okay at art, but i’ve seen incredible standards of art from accepted portfolios at these universities and really don’t know how ill be able to compete. if it’s relevant, i don’t have a level predicted grades yet and my gcses were 9999888776. any advice would help thanks


Around 50% of an architecture degree is design modules, so if you are 'on average ok at art' do you think you will be able to cope with the degree course itself? You have picked some of the most competitive courses. Bath doesn't ask for a portfolio but prefers art/design at A level. Cambridge also prefers art/design and 90% of succesful applicants take it. UCL is probably the most creative architecture course available and probably the most competitive - the portfolio plays a key part in its application process.

You could consider a gap year and take an Art & Design Foundation Diploma (FAD) at a local college. This would help you put together a portfolio and help you decide if a design-based degree is right for you. More info here:

https://www.thestudentroom.co.uk/showthread.php?t=5017684

Have a look at the following thread too. The advice on developing a portfolio is from an architecture lecturer:

https://www.thestudentroom.co.uk/showthread.php?p=96239577
Consider doing a 1-year Art and Design Foundation Diploma course after Year 13 - you'd get a good grounding in all art/design areas, and the best possible resources/advice about compiling a portfolio : Art & Design Foundation Diplomas (Art foundation)
Original post by McGinger
Consider doing a 1-year Art and Design Foundation Diploma course after Year 13 - you'd get a good grounding in all art/design areas, and the best possible resources/advice about compiling a portfolio : Art & Design Foundation Diplomas (Art foundation)

Unfortunately that article has a number of inaccuracies and repeatedly conflates a foundation year with a FAD course :frown:

"Many universities prefer you to complete an Art Foundation Diploma before applying for a degree. " - the number of universities that prefer a FAD is very small.
"If you study in England or Wales, you can take it as a stand-alone course or as part of an undergraduate art degree." a FAD cannot be taken as part of an undergraduate degree
" If you study art and design in Scotland, the Arts Foundation Diploma is usually built into a four-year degree. " this isn't true - a number of scottish FE colleges offer a FAD
"FE college cons"..."There isn’t the option to apply for a combined course if you want to study for a full undergraduate degree afterwards, you must go through the UCAS application process while studying for the diploma" again this isn't true. A FAD is always freestanding and universities contracts with UCAS require all entrants to BA courses to be through UCAS
"University pros You get the university experience of living away from home" - there's no maintenance loan for FAD courses and so few students live away from home
"You can apply for a course with an integrated foundation year, meaning you only need to go through the UCAS application process once –this almost guarantees progression to a full undergraduate course after successfully completing the foundation year" - a FAD isn't an integrated foundation year. The 2 are completely different
"Most universities offer a fee-waiver for the diploma year if you're under 19 years of age" - this isn't accurate. a FAD is an FE course and is eligible for ESFA funding for under 19 year olds which means there is no fee. This isn't the same as a fee waiver
"If you’re over 19, you’ll probably have to pay the full tuition fee" - again as a regulated ESFA funded course 19+ students pay a fee but are eligible for an Advanced Learner Loan to cover this (and it's ~£5k not the same as a degree tuition fee)
"Where ever you choose to study, you’ll usually need an A Level or AS in art design or a BTEC National Diploma in fine art, plus a portfolio of your work." a lot of colleges and universities are happy to consider applicants without a creative L3 qualification. And those that do require one are more likely to be interested in a UALAB or RSL or VTCT course than a BTEC national
"If you’ve opted for the university route, the deadline for application is mid-January. The process of applying differs depending on whether you’re studying in England, Wales, Northern Ireland or Scotland. " Universities set their own deadlines for FAD courses.
"Ulster University is the only university in Northern Ireland that offers an Art Foundation Diploma. You apply for the course through UCAS." UU doesn't offer a FAD.
"There's no standard method of applying for an Art foundation course in Wales. Some institutions use UCAS, and others accept direct applications. Check the application section on course details pages on university websites for more information." all FADs are direct applications. A FAD is not a foundation year
Unfortunately that article has a number of inaccuracies and repeatedly conflates a foundation year with a FAD course :frown:
"Many universities prefer you to complete an Art Foundation Diploma before applying for a degree. " - the number of universities that prefer a FAD is very small.
"If you study in England or Wales, you can take it as a stand-alone course or as part of an undergraduate art degree." a FAD cannot be taken as part of an undergraduate degree
" If you study art and design in Scotland, the Arts Foundation Diploma is usually built into a four-year degree. " this isn't true - a number of scottish FE colleges offer a FAD
"FE college cons"..."There isn’t the option to apply for a combined course if you want to study for a full undergraduate degree afterwards, you must go through the UCAS application process while studying for the diploma" again this isn't true. A FAD is always freestanding and universities contracts with UCAS require all entrants to BA courses to be through UCAS
"University pros You get the university experience of living away from home" - there's no maintenance loan for FAD courses and so few students live away from home
"You can apply for a course with an integrated foundation year, meaning you only need to go through the UCAS application process once –this almost guarantees progression to a full undergraduate course after successfully completing the foundation year" - a FAD isn't an integrated foundation year. The 2 are completely different
"Most universities offer a fee-waiver for the diploma year if you're under 19 years of age" - this isn't accurate. a FAD is an FE course and is eligible for ESFA funding for under 19 year olds which means there is no fee. This isn't the same as a fee waiver
"If you’re over 19, you’ll probably have to pay the full tuition fee" - again as a regulated ESFA funded course 19+ students pay a fee but are eligible for an Advanced Learner Loan to cover this (and it's ~£5k not the same as a degree tuition fee)
"Where ever you choose to study, you’ll usually need an A Level or AS in art design or a BTEC National Diploma in fine art, plus a portfolio of your work." a lot of colleges and universities are happy to consider applicants without a creative L3 qualification. And those that do require one are more likely to be interested in a UALAB or RSL or VTCT course than a BTEC national
"If you’ve opted for the university route, the deadline for application is mid-January. The process of applying differs depending on whether you’re studying in England, Wales, Northern Ireland or Scotland. " Universities set their own deadlines for FAD courses.
"Ulster University is the only university in Northern Ireland that offers an Art Foundation Diploma. You apply for the course through UCAS." UU doesn't offer a FAD.
"There's no standard method of applying for an Art foundation course in Wales. Some institutions use UCAS, and others accept direct applications. Check the application section on course details pages on university websites for more information." all FADs are direct applications. A FAD is not a foundation year

Thanks PQ - please can you email them and tell them?
Original post by McGinger
Thanks PQ - please can you email them and tell them?


I have a few times and they don’t seem interested in improving the article. That was one of the main reasons for putting together the FAD FAQ thread on TSR to try to balance the misinformation :frown:
I have a few times and they don’t seem interested in improving the article. That was one of the main reasons for putting together the FAD FAQ thread on TSR to try to balance the misinformation :frown:

Can you post the link for this?
Original post by McGinger
Can you post the link for this?

Normaw posted it above: https://www.thestudentroom.co.uk/showthread.php?t=5017684

And it’s stuck at the top of the art and design forum :smile:
Join a life drawing or art group ! Quickest way to get good 👍🏻 keep a sketchbook, a5 or a5 and draw in it loads. Drawings of everyday things and people- also draw buildings.

Most architecture courses will make you keep a sketchbook anyway.

Maybe apply to an insurance as lots of the universities mentioned love art students and -particularly the Bartlett ( UCL ) - are very competitive
Original post by ramisha08
hi i’m in year 12 and im doing a levels maths, physics and english literature. i want to apply to architecture (i’ve been considering cambridge, ucl, bath, sheffield, loughborough and liverpool but my main requirement is that the degree is RIBA accredited) but i don’t do a level art since i didn’t do gcse art. i know a portfolio is required for all of these universities (except liverpool and bath but they still prefer art a level) but i really don’t know where to begin and how to make a good portfolio that will strengthen my chances. on average im okay at art, but i’ve seen incredible standards of art from accepted portfolios at these universities and really don’t know how ill be able to compete. if it’s relevant, i don’t have a level predicted grades yet and my gcses were 9999888776. any advice would help thanks

Hi Ramisha!

Doing an Architecture degree without an A-Level in Art is definitely possible. At the University of Nottingham, we do prefer students to take art and design subjects, but a strong portfolio can compensate for this.

The good news is that since you're in Year 12, you have plenty of time to improve your art skills - whether that is through taking classes or independent study.

We have some really insightful guidance on our website about what we expect from a portfolio. We also have some advice from students and examples of previous portfolio submissions.

Hope this helps!

Ella
UoN Official Rep
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Original post by ramisha08
hi i’m in year 12 and im doing a levels maths, physics and english literature. i want to apply to architecture (i’ve been considering cambridge, ucl, bath, sheffield, loughborough and liverpool but my main requirement is that the degree is RIBA accredited) but i don’t do a level art since i didn’t do gcse art. i know a portfolio is required for all of these universities (except liverpool and bath but they still prefer art a level) but i really don’t know where to begin and how to make a good portfolio that will strengthen my chances. on average im okay at art, but i’ve seen incredible standards of art from accepted portfolios at these universities and really don’t know how ill be able to compete. if it’s relevant, i don’t have a level predicted grades yet and my gcses were 9999888776. any advice would help thanks

hello!
I would say to definitely do a lot of drawings, paintings and maybe 3D models during the summer. It’s important to build a strong portfolio as it’s something they will like to have you talk them though during the interview. Try to stick to a theme and develop an idea whilst using different mediums as they want to see how an idea progressed and changed through your work. You have a lot of time till you have to apply so i definitely think you can do it!
Good luck!
Original post by ramisha08
hi i’m in year 12 and im doing a levels maths, physics and english literature. i want to apply to architecture (i’ve been considering cambridge, ucl, bath, sheffield, loughborough and liverpool but my main requirement is that the degree is RIBA accredited) but i don’t do a level art since i didn’t do gcse art. i know a portfolio is required for all of these universities (except liverpool and bath but they still prefer art a level) but i really don’t know where to begin and how to make a good portfolio that will strengthen my chances. on average im okay at art, but i’ve seen incredible standards of art from accepted portfolios at these universities and really don’t know how ill be able to compete. if it’s relevant, i don’t have a level predicted grades yet and my gcses were 9999888776. any advice would help thanks
I'm year 12 and also considering most of those universities for architecture haha
I got an 8 in GCSE Art last year but didn't take it for A level as its just not worth it imo; from my experience i know a good portfolio should display experiments with different media (e.g. pencil, crayons, charcoal, pastels, pen) which by no means have to be brilliant either because you're just showing what you've tried! In terms of what you draw it doesn't have to be just architectural plans as its mainly to show the university what art styles and general features interest you!
Original post by ramisha08
hi i’m in year 12 and im doing a levels maths, physics and english literature. i want to apply to architecture (i’ve been considering cambridge, ucl, bath, sheffield, loughborough and liverpool but my main requirement is that the degree is RIBA accredited) but i don’t do a level art since i didn’t do gcse art. i know a portfolio is required for all of these universities (except liverpool and bath but they still prefer art a level) but i really don’t know where to begin and how to make a good portfolio that will strengthen my chances. on average im okay at art, but i’ve seen incredible standards of art from accepted portfolios at these universities and really don’t know how ill be able to compete. if it’s relevant, i don’t have a level predicted grades yet and my gcses were 9999888776. any advice would help thanks

Hi! I'm a Year 13 student and have applied for Architecture for 25/26 entry (4 offers so far)!

My background as a fan-artist and in GCSE and A-Level Art & Design: 3D Design strengthened my portfolio, however for some (but not all) unis allow you to put some photography in your portfolio, which is a great way to get started on your portfolio, note that the unis that do allow this particularly look at your composition skills and how your photos reflect how you perceive the world around you.

Some Unis also allow you to add in some computer models (e.g. Sketchup, etc.) into your portfolio! This can be a relatively good way to produce work to add to your portfolio if you familiarise yourself with these programs (SketchUp has a free online version!). Also, if you have any time to complete work experience at an Architecture firm, it could also lead to a piece of work you could add too, I personally did work experience where I produced a computer model after working on a mock brief which I added into my portfolio.

Also, I have applied to Liverpool (University of Liverpool), and I just wanted to let you know that they do request a portfolio!

I also have applied for Bath and Sheffield, so lmk if you have any questions about our shared choices, or about portfolios or applying for Architecture in general :smile:

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