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Is self-studying AS Latin in 2 years feasible/worth it?

For context I already bio, chem, maths, fm and am managing ok so far. I wanted to switch from chem to Latin but missed the deadline to change. I really enjoyed it at GCSE and got a 9, and honestly I just miss doing it.

Languages come to me quite easily so I don't think the language and vocab parts will be too big of a hassle. I had a look at the literature for AS and it didn't look that much longer than GCSE.

I don't know how well analysing the texts by myself would go, because my Latin teacher was just amazing with this last year and made spotting techniques way easier, as well as learning how to do extended response questions. However, I'm still at the same school I was at last year, so I can probably ask her for help/resources.

I figured that doing AS over 2 years would make for a lighter workload, but I'm still not sure if it would leave me enough time for supercurriculars and work experience. Do you think it's worth doing/me asking my Latin teacher if she can help? Also, does anyone know any resources if they're self-studying as well?
I did the SQCF Higher Latin, A+

I have an old book called Hayes and Masom’s Tutorial Latin Grammar I would swear by, particularly the mnemonics/rhymes.

Loeb Classical Library for the texts.

If you’re doing Maths and Further Maths, I wonder if there’s a student edition of the Principia Mathematica? Napier’s work on logarithms? I was always a bit of a holy Joe and it helped to bring Latin to life by talking in the language with the local RC priest, a very elderly man who could remember the Latin services before 1969. He lent me a book called the Breviary, the old Latin church office, so I taught myself some of the hymns. If you’re not a Classicist by interest (I’m not), tying Latin into your interests brings a “dead” language to life.

But yes, talk to your teacher. You’re certainly driven, which is a great help. It’s a massive help in Biology, so is Greek come to that, as it’s much easier to tie in what terms mean if you know their etymologies to take an example you probably already know, the British birches are pubescens, alba and nana, which is enough to pick them out.
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Original post by Lophocolea
I did the SQCF Higher Latin, A+
I have an old book called Hayes and Masom’s Tutorial Latin Grammar I would swear by, particularly the mnemonics/rhymes.
Loeb Classical Library for the texts.
If you’re doing Maths and Further Maths, I wonder if there’s a student edition of the Principia Mathematica? Napier’s work on logarithms? I was always a bit of a holy Joe and it helped to bring Latin to life by talking in the language with the local RC priest, a very elderly man who could remember the Latin services before 1969. He lent me a book called the Breviary, the old Latin church office, so I taught myself some of the hymns. If you’re not a Classicist by interest (I’m not), tying Latin into your interests brings a “dead” language to life.
But yes, talk to your teacher. You’re certainly driven, which is a great help. It’s a massive help in Biology, so is Greek come to that, as it’s much easier to tie in what terms mean if you know their etymologies to take an example you probably already know, the British birches are pubescens, alba and nana, which is enough to pick them out.

thank youu the resources seem really good so far
I'm already interested in classics by itself but that sounds really good for further reading.
Also if you don't mind me asking, what did you go on to study at uni? I picked bio and chem at the start of the year because I thought I wanted to do medicine, would only having AS Latin put me at a disadvantage if applying for classics? (I probably won't do it in the UK tbh because I want to do a dual degree in cs and classics)
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yh you can totally teach yourself. i can send you the cambridge pre term learning pack if u like - it has a condensed version of like all the a level language content. I think Latin is something that's actually more fun to self study cos it's fun escape, and then you can read loads of cool stuff in the original
Original post by truthful-pottery
thank youu the resources seem really good so far
I'm already interested in classics by itself but that sounds really good for further reading.
Also if you don't mind me asking, what did you go on to study at uni? I picked bio and chem at the start of the year because I thought I wanted to do medicine, would only having AS Latin put me at a disadvantage if applying for classics? (I probably won't do it in the UK tbh because I want to do a dual degree in cs and classics)


Of course you can ask, though I am not there yet ! Delayed by personal and family illness, applicant for Biology at 2 Scottish unis as a young mature student for the 2025 admissions cycle. Planning on Plant Sciences, dream goal the RBGE Biodiversity and Plant Taxonomy MSc)

I’m *not* a Classicist but I suspect Oxford, Cambridge would favour a full A Level for Classics. Russell Group I simply don’t know. That said, I know there’s a slower Classics stream at some unis for those who have no Latin or Greek at all.
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best yt channel for grammar: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zA0CPJZfoI4&list=PLI76N29qybf-o5U6tvD-8VPILacttSaM3
latin summer camp if ur rly keen (you basically read texts the whole 2 weeks): https://latincamp.co.uk/
i think you can apply for funding from ur local authority for it
great page of resources from cambridge latin and greek teacher and prof (has the pre term language pack): https://www.charlieslanguagepage.com/
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Original post by truthful-pottery
thank youu the resources seem really good so far
I'm already interested in classics by itself but that sounds really good for further reading.
Also if you don't mind me asking, what did you go on to study at uni? I picked bio and chem at the start of the year because I thought I wanted to do medicine, would only having AS Latin put me at a disadvantage if applying for classics? (I probably won't do it in the UK tbh because I want to do a dual degree in cs and classics)

at cambridge you can apply for the 4 year course which is for ppl studying latin and greek from scratch or who have AS level or less (you spend the first year just learning latin).
Original post by blowseph
yh you can totally teach yourself. i can send you the cambridge pre term learning pack if u like - it has a condensed version of like all the a level language content. I think Latin is something that's actually more fun to self study cos it's fun escape, and then you can read loads of cool stuff in the original

omg please send that i will love u forever <3
Also I agree that was my whole reason for choosing it lmao, I loved doing the set texts last year Aeneid was so fun!! I really like the classics dept at my school though and I'm friends with like 90% of the people doing Latin and classics though so I'm a bit biased lolol
Original post by blowseph
best yt channel for grammar: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zA0CPJZfoI4&list=PLI76N29qybf-o5U6tvD-8VPILacttSaM3
latin summer camp if ur rly keen (you basically read texts the whole 2 weeks): https://latincamp.co.uk/
i think you can apply for funding from ur local authority for it
great page of resources from cambridge latin and greek teacher and prof (has the pre term language pack): https://www.charlieslanguagepage.com/

thank uu that channel looks really good
Original post by blowseph
at cambridge you can apply for the 4 year course which is for ppl studying latin and greek from scratch or who have AS level or less (you spend the first year just learning latin).

yess I'd really like to apply for that but I don't know if it would reflect on me badly because my school do offer latin and classics A level, I just didn't choose it because I thought I wanted to do something else at the start of the year. Idk if that would end up just being auto reject then?? I'm hoping that this would be enough to show my interest along with supercurriculars, because I already did latin and classical greek gcse anyway
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Original post by truthful-pottery
yess I'd really like to apply for that but I don't know if it would reflect on me badly because my school do offer latin and classics A level, I just didn't choose it because I thought I wanted to do something else at the start of the year. Idk if that would end up just being auto reject then?? I'm hoping that this would be enough to show my interest along with supercurriculars, because I already did latin and classical greek gcse anyway

no I know ppl who did the 4 year course even tho their school offered latin a level (including ppl from independent schools). ik that would probs be an issue with further maths if you were applying for maths, but in the case of latin cambridge rly just want ppl who love latin and classics and will be super happy if you have self studied
Original post by blowseph
no I know ppl who did the 4 year course even tho their school offered latin a level (including ppl from independent schools). ik that would probs be an issue with further maths if you were applying for maths, but in the case of latin cambridge rly just want ppl who love latin and classics and will be super happy if you have self studied

oh ok that's actually really cool ty for telling me I thought classics was a lost cause for me!! dyk any supercurriculars your friends did for that (apart from reading)?
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Original post by truthful-pottery
oh ok that's actually really cool ty for telling me I thought classics was a lost cause for me!! dyk any supercurriculars your friends did for that (apart from reading)?

actually most of the ppl i know who did the 4 year course did almost nothing classics related before applying. But the girl who came top of tripos (cambridge exams) like every year was a 4 year student and i think she studied classical civilisation a level so could be worth looking at the content for that (you'd defo find it interesting anyway) cos that gives you a rly good overview of lots of classical stuff. and she won some classics essay competitions (run by like cambridge and oxford colleges). Anyone in year 12 can apply so you could too if you have time probs.

Also stuff like volunteering running the Minimus programme (an initiative to teach latin in primary school and write a latin play for them to perform) if there's any primary schools in your area that do that. You can actually help teach minimus with rly limited latin knowledge yourself.

In terms of events and stuff to go to you can see if there's any public lectures run by universities, just check the classics page on their websites in the news section. And UCL put on a Greek play every year I think.

But yh reading and discussing as much raw classical content (as in the text itself, not a commentary, preferably in latin) as you can would prepare you best for the course.

Also just explore around as much as you can and have a look at the papers offered in each year of the course for cam/oxford or wherever you like to get ideas of what to read. It isn't just literature tbf - you study linguistics, philosophy, art and archaeology, and ancient history as well at cambridge anyway.
Original post by blowseph
actually most of the ppl i know who did the 4 year course did almost nothing classics related before applying. But the girl who came top of tripos (cambridge exams) like every year was a 4 year student and i think she studied classical civilisation a level so could be worth looking at the content for that (you'd defo find it interesting anyway) cos that gives you a rly good overview of lots of classical stuff. and she won some classics essay competitions (run by like cambridge and oxford colleges). Anyone in year 12 can apply so you could too if you have time probs.
Also stuff like volunteering running the Minimus programme (an initiative to teach latin in primary school and write a latin play for them to perform) if there's any primary schools in your area that do that. You can actually help teach minimus with rly limited latin knowledge yourself.
In terms of events and stuff to go to you can see if there's any public lectures run by universities, just check the classics page on their websites in the news section. And UCL put on a Greek play every year I think.
But yh reading and discussing as much raw classical content (as in the text itself, not a commentary, preferably in latin) as you can would prepare you best for the course.
Also just explore around as much as you can and have a look at the papers offered in each year of the course for cam/oxford or wherever you like to get ideas of what to read. It isn't just literature tbf - you study linguistics, philosophy, art and archaeology, and ancient history as well at cambridge anyway.

oh ok thank youu ur literally saving my life here

do you think it would look bad because I have no essay subjects apart from latin either?
also can u send me that pre term learning pack when you have time
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Original post by truthful-pottery
oh ok thank youu ur literally saving my life here
do you think it would look bad because I have no essay subjects apart from latin either?
also can u send me that pre term learning pack when you have time

hmm I'm not totally sure how it would look, i guess it would be unusual tbh but i do know like 3 ppl who did maths, further maths, physics and latin as their a level and did classics no problem. I think if you entered some essay competitions to show you can write various kinds of essay it'd be no prob. also some colleges ask u to send in examples of essays you've written when you apply.
sure the language pack (updatd for 2024 and everything) is actually on charlie weiss's language page: https://www.charlieslanguagepage.com/ under the latin column. its titled 'cambridge language pack'
Delighted to see the OP has so many good resources now here’s the grammar book I found easier to use than Kennedy:

https://archive.org/details/in.ernet.dli.2015.6478/page/n21/mode/1up

In case they, too, prefer it
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Original post by blowseph
yh you can totally teach yourself. i can send you the cambridge pre term learning pack if u like - it has a condensed version of like all the a level language content. I think Latin is something that's actually more fun to self study cos it's fun escape, and then you can read loads of cool stuff in the original

I just joined TSR, so can't send messages yet, but would love the learning pack if you don't mind sharing. Thanks.
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Original post by abbalew
I just joined TSR, so can't send messages yet, but would love the learning pack if you don't mind sharing. Thanks.

Nm, didn't read to the end of the thread. 😂 Just got it, thanks.

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