University Local appeal rejected and I just don't know what to do...
I have been informed my local appeal has been rejected. I believe I have very good reasons why I had to submit an appeal and I am devastated that it has been rejected. I am lost and don't know what to do... Is there anybody who has ever been successful at a 2nd stage appeal or that can give me some advice? My future is ruined...
Original post by Freida
I have been informed my local appeal has been rejected. I believe I have very good reasons why I had to submit an appeal and I am devastated that it has been rejected. I am lost and don't know what to do... Is there anybody who has ever been successful at a 2nd stage appeal or that can give me some advice? My future is ruined...
What's a "local appeal"? Regarding what?
Original post by ageshallnot
What's a "local appeal"? Regarding what?
It was a university appeal. I couldn't sit 2 of my last year's exams. I submitted extenuating circumstances, the university was aware of everything, that's the only good thing I did. Unfortunately, because I had already received supplementary years they said the regulations don't allow for another one (to allow me to sit the last 2 exams) so I am stuck with a 3rd class degree.
Original post by Freida
It was a university appeal. I couldn't sit 2 of my last year's exams. I submitted extenuating circumstances, the university was aware of everything, that's the only good thing I did. Unfortunately, because I had already received supplementary years they said the regulations don't allow for another one (to allow me to sit the last 2 exams) so I am stuck with a 3rd class degree.
This sounds complicated. Perhaps @Admit-One might be able to point you in the right direction?
Original post by Freida
if there is anybody knowledgable on appeals and can offer advice on what to do that would be amazing.
Have you spoken to your student union about this? They should be familiar with your university's policies and processes around this.
Original post by martin7
Have you spoken to your student union about this? They should be familiar with your university's policies and processes around this.
I have! They've been helping me with it. I sent them drafts of my appeal. I submitted all the evidence. I sent them an email today to say it was rejected together with the letter and I'm just don't know what else to do....
Original post by Freida
I have been informed my local appeal has been rejected. I believe I have very good reasons why I had to submit an appeal and I am devastated that it has been rejected. I am lost and don't know what to do... Is there anybody who has ever been successful at a 2nd stage appeal or that can give me some advice? My future is ruined...
Original post by ageshallnot
This sounds complicated. Perhaps @Admit-One might be able to point you in the right direction?
Unfortunately this ia bit out of my wheelhouse so I can only give generic advice and I can see that the threadstarter is already engaging with their SU.
If it is a uni-wide regulation that a second supplementary year is not permitted, there may not be much that can be done, (even if there were mitigating circumstances for both requests - although I would hope the uni would be pragmatic where possible).
If they ultimately stick to their guns, it may be worth looking into whether a transfer of credit to another uni might be possible. Although there may be some restrictions in receiving more than one award with the same credits.
Original post by Admit-One
Unfortunately this ia bit out of my wheelhouse so I can only give generic advice and I can see that the threadstarter is already engaging with their SU.
If it is a uni-wide regulation that a second supplementary year is not permitted, there may not be much that can be done, (even if there were mitigating circumstances for both requests - although I would hope the uni would be pragmatic where possible).
If they ultimately stick to their guns, it may be worth looking into whether a transfer of credit to another uni might be possible. Although there may be some restrictions in receiving more than one award with the same credits.
If it is a uni-wide regulation that a second supplementary year is not permitted, there may not be much that can be done, (even if there were mitigating circumstances for both requests - although I would hope the uni would be pragmatic where possible).
If they ultimately stick to their guns, it may be worth looking into whether a transfer of credit to another uni might be possible. Although there may be some restrictions in receiving more than one award with the same credits.
Hi, thank you so much for your answer. So basically I had 2 supplementary years, both were because I had very strong extenuating circumstances. Evidence included multiple GP, consultant letters, hospital tests, police reports etc. At some point I realised that despite pushing through I wasn't going to cope well. I reached out to suspend my studies but I got told it wasn't possible because of the supplementary years.
During my 3rd year I even wrote email saying that I was going to quit because I couldn't keep going.
I reached out and submitted mitigating circumstances like I was told But I couldn't finish my last assessments before finishing my degree. I only had 2 left.
Now they're saying that they can't allow me to finish them in May next year because they can't do more supplementary years so I'm stuck...
I submitted info from the OIA that specified that is not good procedure to have absolute limits on the year of study if there is sufficient mitigating circumstances but it hasn't worked.
The only think I can do moving forwards is to ask why wasn't allowed to suspend my studies if I was doing unwell?
Is there anything else I can do?
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Original post by Freida
Hi, thank you so much for your answer. So basically I had 2 supplementary years, both were because I had very strong extenuating circumstances. Evidence included multiple GP, consultant letters, hospital tests, police reports etc. At some point I realised that despite pushing through I wasn't going to cope well. I reached out to suspend my studies but I got told it wasn't possible because of the supplementary years.
During my 3rd year I even wrote email saying that I was going to quit because I couldn't keep going.
I reached out and submitted mitigating circumstances like I was told But I couldn't finish my last assessments before finishing my degree. I only had 2 left.
Now they're saying that they can't allow me to finish them in May next year because they can't do more supplementary years so I'm stuck...
I submitted info from the OIA that specified that is not good procedure to have absolute limits on the year of study if there is sufficient mitigating circumstances but it hasn't worked.
The only think I can do moving forwards is to ask why wasn't allowed to suspend my studies if I was doing unwell?
Is there anything else I can do?
During my 3rd year I even wrote email saying that I was going to quit because I couldn't keep going.
I reached out and submitted mitigating circumstances like I was told But I couldn't finish my last assessments before finishing my degree. I only had 2 left.
Now they're saying that they can't allow me to finish them in May next year because they can't do more supplementary years so I'm stuck...
I submitted info from the OIA that specified that is not good procedure to have absolute limits on the year of study if there is sufficient mitigating circumstances but it hasn't worked.
The only think I can do moving forwards is to ask why wasn't allowed to suspend my studies if I was doing unwell?
Is there anything else I can do?
Unfortunately I don't deal with appeals or enrolled students so there is not much more I can add.
It sounds like a suspended year due to ill health would have been considered as another supplementary year. It is not very pragmatic of them, but if that is the uni's policy then I don't know how useful it will be to challenge it. All they can tell you is that it isn't permitted regardless of circumstances.
@gjd800 is very good on this topic but is only around infrequently. They might be able to chip in.
Original post by Admit-One
Unfortunately I don't deal with appeals or enrolled students so there is not much more I can add.
It sounds like a suspended year due to ill health would have been considered as another supplementary year. It is not very pragmatic of them, but if that is the uni's policy then I don't know how useful it will be to challenge it. All they can tell you is that it isn't permitted regardless of circumstances.
@gjd800 is very good on this topic but is only around infrequently. They might be able to chip in.
It sounds like a suspended year due to ill health would have been considered as another supplementary year. It is not very pragmatic of them, but if that is the uni's policy then I don't know how useful it will be to challenge it. All they can tell you is that it isn't permitted regardless of circumstances.
@gjd800 is very good on this topic but is only around infrequently. They might be able to chip in.
Thank you for your help!
Just to chip in briefly (thanks for the tag @Admit-One ) - I suspect this is an issue because it is your 3rd year. My own dept does not allow, unless there are some vanishingly unlikely, super-specific reasons, 3rd year resits or supplements.
This is not that unusual - lots of places will not allow a second pop at third year. What would usually happen instead is that where mitigation has been accepted and applied for certain units in that final year (has it..?), measures would be taken to lessen the impact of affected units upon your average and so classification.
For example, my students would not be allowed to retake 2x 3rd year exams either. But if they had mitigation, and it was accepted, the exam board might remove the two exams from the average calculation so that they did not negatively impact the final degree classification.
Of course, the upshot is that there is no opportunity to positively impact it, either.
Have you had mitigation accepted for the two exams in question?
If not, why not?
If so, how has mitigation been applied?
This is not that unusual - lots of places will not allow a second pop at third year. What would usually happen instead is that where mitigation has been accepted and applied for certain units in that final year (has it..?), measures would be taken to lessen the impact of affected units upon your average and so classification.
For example, my students would not be allowed to retake 2x 3rd year exams either. But if they had mitigation, and it was accepted, the exam board might remove the two exams from the average calculation so that they did not negatively impact the final degree classification.
Of course, the upshot is that there is no opportunity to positively impact it, either.
Have you had mitigation accepted for the two exams in question?
If not, why not?
If so, how has mitigation been applied?
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Original post by gjd800
Just to chip in briefly (thanks for the tag @Admit-One ) - I suspect this is an issue because it is your 3rd year. My own dept does not allow, unless there are some vanishingly unlikely, super-specific reasons, 3rd year resits or supplements.
This is not that unusual - lots of places will not allow a second pop at third year. What would usually happen instead is that where mitigation has been accepted and applied for certain units in that final year (has it..?), measures would be taken to lessen the impact of affected units upon your average and so classification.
For example, my students would not be allowed to retake 2x 3rd year exams either. But if they had mitigation, and it was accepted, the exam board might remove the two exams from the average calculation so that they did not negatively impact the final degree classification.
Of course, the upshot is that there is no opportunity to positively impact it, either.
Have you had mitigation accepted for the two exams in question?
If not, why not?
If so, how has mitigation been applied?
This is not that unusual - lots of places will not allow a second pop at third year. What would usually happen instead is that where mitigation has been accepted and applied for certain units in that final year (has it..?), measures would be taken to lessen the impact of affected units upon your average and so classification.
For example, my students would not be allowed to retake 2x 3rd year exams either. But if they had mitigation, and it was accepted, the exam board might remove the two exams from the average calculation so that they did not negatively impact the final degree classification.
Of course, the upshot is that there is no opportunity to positively impact it, either.
Have you had mitigation accepted for the two exams in question?
If not, why not?
If so, how has mitigation been applied?
Hi,
Thanks for your answer. So what happened it's that I never sat them I asked to postpone them to the next sitting. We have a "fit to sit" policy which is why I asked to postpone them.
You are right that they applied mitigation so that I could graduate however I believe this is unfair as I had reached out multiple times to express that I was struggling and perhaps I should suspend my studies.
I am appealing in the basis that I did not received support despite having medical evidence.
The murky bit is that they applied mitigation, presumably in.line with protocol, and it seems (I could be wrong, I'm just basing this on prior experience) that interrupting in final year is not feasible for one reason or another.
The point as they see it might look something like this:
On the face of things, this looks fair. I'm not familiar enough with the precise regulations and how they are usually interpreted in your institution so I can't really judge more than that. In my institution, any appeal would very likely fail on the basis that procedure had been followed fairly.
BUT
You should try anyway, because these things sometimes shake out in unexpected ways.
The point as they see it might look something like this:
•
there are no resits or supplementary options available in final year
•
Student (you) has legitimate MCs
•
Student has already taken supplementary year(s)
•
Student would like interruption, but protocol says it is not possible in final year
•
University instead applies MC procedure so that student can graduate
BUT
You should try anyway, because these things sometimes shake out in unexpected ways.
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