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Reply 40

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by Stiffy Byng
OP, please disregard this. Thegeek888 has neither studied at nor applied to any university, let alone Oxford, and is is in no position to give reliable guidance about Oxford admissions. He certainly can't say why any candidate obtains an interview or an offer of a place, or is rejected pre or post interview. The process is not merely based on numbers or grades.
I am sorry for your disappointment, and for all those who are not invited to interview. As others have rightly said above, the UK has many good universities, and not obtaining a place at Oxford or Cambridge is not a sign of failure.
Oxford and Cambridge have a limited number of places available each year and more good candidates apply for those places than can be offered places. Please remember that even a good tennis player may be knocked out of Wimbledon in the first round. Good luck with your university applications.
Wow...you actually watch TV? and follow sports too? 🙂 I am impressed.

I will be less active on TSR university forums and much more 'active' in French and Spanish language threads next year, as I will start 'religiously' watching TV shows and movies in French and Spanish on various apps. So, we can chat in French or Spanish in future threads?! 😀 lol More importantly, also learning the vocabulary for both French and Spanish too with the many courses I have downloaded online. So, you will no longer see my posts on the university forums, so I hope you are happy Stiffy!!! ☹️ But I can share my study ideas and thoughts on the French and Spanish pages as well as the Maths forum.

I wake up for the "Tahujjud" prayer every morning around 3:30 to 04:30 as it is the most 'auspicious' time to pray (you should try it) and pray for success in exams, admissions tests and Oxford interview success, which is not far away now as 2024 has gone so quickly, and 2027 October will be here fast. But it all depends on me arranging law work shadow placements in the Summer of 2027 with A-Level Maths (achieved of course in 2026 at A* grade most likely with my efforts) and I have purchased every market-leading revision guide and textbooks. 😉

Reply 41

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by thegeek888
Wow...you actually watch TV? and follow sports too? 🙂 I am impressed.
I will be less active on TSR university forums and much more 'active' in French and Spanish language threads next year, as I will start 'religiously' watching TV shows and movies in French and Spanish on various apps. So, we can chat in French or Spanish in future threads?! 😀 lol More importantly, also learning the vocabulary for both French and Spanish too with the many courses I have downloaded online. So, you will no longer see my posts on the university forums, so I hope you are happy Stiffy!!! ☹️ But I can share my study ideas and thoughts on the French and Spanish pages as well as the Maths forum.
I wake up for the "Tahujjud" prayer every morning around 3:30 to 04:30 as it is the most 'auspicious' time to pray (you should try it) and pray for success in exams, admissions tests and Oxford interview success, which is not far away now as 2024 has gone so quickly, and 2027 October will be here fast. But it all depends on me arranging law work shadow placements in the Summer of 2027 with A-Level Maths (achieved of course in 2026 at A* grade most likely with my efforts) and I have purchased every market-leading revision guide and textbooks. 😉

Why would I not watch TV or follow sports? As for praying, I think that life is too short to waste time on imaginary friends, but you should of course chat to your imaginary friend as much as you wish.

Your posts never make me unhappy. They often add to the gaiety of life. I think, however, that you should stop pretending to be an authoritative source on things about which you have no first hand experience or knowledge, because doing that is not helpful to others.

If you don't obtain work experience in the summer of 2027, will you then postpone your application for another year? Is it your plan to be the oldest undergraduate in the history of Oxford?

You will have to compete with the late Mr Justice Oliver Popplewell (1927-2024). He studied Classics and Law at Cambridge in the late 1940s, but, after he retired from the Bench in 2003, he went to Harris Manchester College to study PPE. He was then aged seventy five. A Cambridge Cricket Blue, I do not suppose that he got an Oxford Cricket Blue as well.

Thread-drifting wildly, some Factoids (TL/DR - Oliver Popplewell was a dirty dog).


Oliver Popplewell was Stephen Fry's Godfather, and defended Fry in Court when he committed a credit card fraud at the age of eighteen.

Popplewell was obsessed with cricket, and was quite a lazy Judge, although he was always very pleasant to appear before. If appearing in a trial before Popplewell at the RCJ when there was a test match on at Lords or The Oval, you and your learned opponent would quickly find yourself invited into the Judge's room for tea, with your wigs in your lap, and a bit of "Ladies, gentlemen, can't we sort this out? There must be a possibility of settlement here, surely?" With luck, the Judge would be at the match before the second innings. These days we must call this "Alternative Dispute Resolution".

At the age of eighty, Popplewell ran off with Mrs Justice Elizabeth Gloster, then aged fifty four, who was at the time the wife of Stanley Brodie QC, then aged seventy four. Stanley, arguably the best trial lawyer of his generation, was younger, cleverer, richer, and more interesting than Oliver, but Liz (a dazzling legal talent who was at one time the highest earning woman at the Bar) preferred Oliver for some reason. Liz is retired now, having made it to the Court of Appeal but not to the Supreme Court (because the plodding Mary Arden was over-promoted there and blocked the brilliant Liz's advancement). Stanley died in 2022 and Oliver died earlier this year.

Law students everywhere have Stanley to thank for R v Cunningham [1957] 2 QB 396. Stanley was just three years call when he won that case in the Court of Appeal. I was very fond of Stanley. I was not over fond of Oliver. Everyone loves Liz.

Reply 42

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by Stiffy Byng
Why would I not watch TV or follow sports? As for praying, I think that life is too short to waste time on imaginary friends, but you should of course chat to your imaginary friend as much as you wish.
Your posts never make me unhappy. They often add to the gaiety of life. I think, however, that you should stop pretending to be an authoritative source on things about which you have no first hand experience or knowledge, because doing that is not helpful to others.
If you don't obtain work experience in the summer of 2027, will you then postpone your application for another year? Is it your plan to be the oldest undergraduate in the history of Oxford?
You will have to compete with the late Mr Justice Oliver Popplewell (1927-2024). He studied Classics and Law at Cambridge in the late 1940s, but, after he retired from the Bench in 2003, he went to Harris Manchester College to study PPE. He was then aged seventy five. A Cambridge Cricket Blue, I do not suppose that he got an Oxford Cricket Blue as well.
Thread-drifting wildly, some Factoids (TL/DR - Oliver Popplewell was a dirty dog).
Oliver Popplewell was Stephen Fry's Godfather, and defended Fry in Court when he committed a credit card fraud at the age of eighteen.
Popplewell was obsessed with cricket, and was quite a lazy Judge, although he was always very pleasant to appear before. If appearing in a trial before Popplewell at the RCJ when there was a test match on at Lords or The Oval, you and your learned opponent would quickly find yourself invited into the Judge's room for tea, with your wigs in your lap, and a bit of "Ladies, gentlemen, can't we sort this out? There must be a possibility of settlement here, surely?" With luck, the Judge would be at the match before the second innings. These days we must call this "Alternative Dispute Resolution".
At the age of eighty, Popplewell ran off with Mrs Justice Elizabeth Gloster, then aged fifty four, who was at the time the wife of Stanley Brodie QC, then aged seventy four. Stanley, arguably the best trial lawyer of his generation, was younger, cleverer, richer, and more interesting than Oliver, but Liz (a dazzling legal talent who was at one time the highest earning woman at the Bar) preferred Oliver for some reason. Liz is retired now, having made it to the Court of Appeal but not to the Supreme Court (because the plodding Mary Arden was over-promoted there and blocked the brilliant Liz's advancement). Stanley died in 2022 and Oliver died earlier this year.
Law students everywhere have Stanley to thank for R v Cunningham [1957] 2 QB 396. Stanley was just three years call when he won that case in the Court of Appeal. I was very fond of Stanley. I was not over fond of Oliver. Everyone loves Liz.
I am not going to be the oldest undergraduate fortunately so. 😛 lol Because I will still be in my early 40s when I am finally studying Law, whether it is at Oxford or London: LSE, UCL, KCL or even SOAS. I also have been having trouble with my old friends and it will be going to trial most likely at Snaresbrook Crown Court. But the main guy is in hiding and should serve 5 years at least with my evidence (since his teens he has harmed up to 100 different boys). But the fact, I was never physically harmed made it difficult to report. In recent times, I exposed the group of mostly fellow British Asians to the football mad hooligans (all Caucasians from the same Sixth Form) and they got scared and have not sent any messages online. I even walked past one of them in the centre of London, but he did not recognise me. So, that is the reason why, I might have to finally submit a UCAS application in October 2028 with the court case being supported by my future employer. ☹️ It has not been an easy 2 decades, but I am hopeful of victory in the end.

Drug dealing and police car chase: 4 years

Attempted murder: sword used to cut a man and lots of blood. 6 years (but it could have been me)

Fraud by another. 18 months.

So, those who joined him got their comeuppance and served time. I did not want to choose that path. And this chap who harmed me is guilty of assault occasioning actual bodily harm and some other offences too. It is not how I intended my UCAS application to work out. But the jealousy from the group of former friends was immense. I have also put on muscle mass and now weigh 85kg and am a 34" waist and 41" chest and can defend myself, but I don't want to take the law into my hands in a revenge attack. Because I would risk a criminal record.

The disruptive candidate has committed all offences except murder and attempted murder and he should get 5 years minimum when he comes to stand trial at Snaresbrook Crown Court. 😀 Victory is inevitable. 😉 I can't explain everything here but I will do to the law firms and accounting firms who I am going to train with or gain a scholarship from. But I could message you privately the details of offences but it may upset you as it is very disturbing behaviour from the disruptive candidates.

PS: I love your insight on the judges and barristers but I first want to start an eCommerce company with my IT knowledge from the age of 7. 🙂

Reply 43

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by Anonymous
I know it sounds so dramatic but I feel empty like okay so I have depression and i have this emptiness, a sense of hopelessness 24/7, however it has been my to study at Oxford since year 5 when I discovered the university. I have always been academically tuned and I try my hardest, in the holiday I locked myself in my room and only did maths and managed to bring my grades up from a D to an A, I applied with A*A*A and A in epq , I read 6 books in 15 days during the holiday for my personal statement (I didn’t include them al) and I tried so so hard, I then applied to oxford and it gave me something to look forward to, even though it was like impending, I tried for the first time to harbour a positive mindset, the castles are so beautiful and it’s like the embodiment of academic success , I knew my gcses (999777765) may be a bit low but I really really put effort, I prayed, I’d have a flutter in my chest just thinking about it, it was so perfect, like the little reminant of my childhood as it was my dream and they rejected me, didn’t even call me to the interview, I really did try to believe they’d call me, now I have nothing to look forward to, to motivate me to try because it’s already hard enough with depression and ik it’s silly but the idea of studying at Oxford in a year allowed me to assign some purpose to carrying on and trying. I have 0 friends in school and I just sit in the library break and lunch either catching up on work or revising and I thought just maybe they’d call me so it would make these past 2 years worth it, but now it’s the end of a dream, purposelessness and the feeling of rejection. And they always say rejection is redirection, however, post Oxford, I saw rejection after rejection, I failed my driving test, slaughter and may didn’t accept my application to their law scheme, I don’t understand why I am never enough even though I pour blood sweat and tears into these things, I go above and beyond academically and then I am stuck in the position below those who don’t try as hard , and are happy with friends, while I’m alone always just out of reach of my aspirations. I am fully aware I could just study at Oxford for masters and I understand this is overly dramatic but it’s a bad feeling and I have revision to do today but I feel so demotivated , I have had my Oxford sticker from open evening stuck on my desk as a motivator but idk it just sucks like I don’t get it but it is what it is

Hey, i've been feeling similar after my rejection to read physics and philosophy. I think we just have to keep going and take it one day at a time until we feel better again- what I'm trying to remember is this: if you've applied to Oxford at all, you must be incredibly ambitious and the best thing we can do is remember those ambitions, because they're still there and can be fulfilled oxford or no. I would suggest looking at other unis, and holding on to those ambitions- no rejection can take that away from you.

Reply 44

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by thegeek888
I am not going to be the oldest undergraduate fortunately so. 😛 lol Because I will still be in my early 40s when I am finally studying Law, whether it is at Oxford or London: LSE, UCL, KCL or even SOAS. I also have been having trouble with my old friends and it will be going to trial most likely at Snaresbrook Crown Court. But the main guy is in hiding and should serve 5 years at least with my evidence (since his teens he has harmed up to 100 different boys). But the fact, I was never physically harmed made it difficult to report. In recent times, I exposed the group of mostly fellow British Asians to the football mad hooligans (all Caucasians from the same Sixth Form) and they got scared and have not sent any messages online. I even walked past one of them in the centre of London, but he did not recognise me. So, that is the reason why, I might have to finally submit a UCAS application in October 2028 with the court case being supported by my future employer. ☹️ It has not been an easy 2 decades, but I am hopeful of victory in the end.
Drug dealing and police car chase: 4 years
Attempted murder: sword used to cut a man and lots of blood. 6 years (but it could have been me)
Fraud by another. 18 months.
So, those who joined him got their comeuppance and served time. I did not want to choose that path. And this chap who harmed me is guilty of assault occasioning actual bodily harm and some other offences too. It is not how I intended my UCAS application to work out. But the jealousy from the group of former friends was immense. I have also put on muscle mass and now weigh 85kg and am a 34" waist and 41" chest and can defend myself, but I don't want to take the law into my hands in a revenge attack. Because I would risk a criminal record.
The disruptive candidate has committed all offences except murder and attempted murder and he should get 5 years minimum when he comes to stand trial at Snaresbrook Crown Court. 😀 Victory is inevitable. 😉 I can't explain everything here but I will do to the law firms and accounting firms who I am going to train with or gain a scholarship from. But I could message you privately the details of offences but it may upset you as it is very disturbing behaviour from the disruptive candidates.
PS: I love your insight on the judges and barristers but I first want to start an eCommerce company with my IT knowledge from the age of 7. 🙂

The criminal justice system is not an instrument for the pursuit of personal vendettas. No employer can "support" a criminal prosecution. Boasting online about setting up your ex-friends to be intimidated by football hooligans is not a good look.

You really need to snap out of the fantasy world in which you appear to live. Either apply to a university or get a non-graduate job. You are not going to become a zillionaire on the basis of your naive ideas about business. Perhaps you can get into a good university (or any university), but you keep moving the date for your proposed application back another year, and you will never get into any university unless you apply to at least one university.

On the assumption that you are not a troll (I am never sure about this), I suggest that you seek some professional counselling about your obsession with past grievances, your endless prevarication about applying to university, and your unrealistic ambitions. If you can stop being an angry version of Walter Mitty, you may be able to find a happier life.

OP, I am sorry for the thread drift.

Reply 45

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by Stiffy Byng
The criminal justice system is not an instrument for the pursuit of personal vendettas. No employer can "support" a criminal prosecution. Boasting online about setting up your ex-friends to be intimidated by football hooligans is not a good look.
You really need to snap out of the fantasy world in which you appear to live. Either apply to a university or get a non-graduate job. You are not going to become a zillionaire on the basis of your naive ideas about business. Perhaps you can get into a good university (or any university), but you keep moving the date for your proposed application back another year, and you will never get into any university unless you apply to at least one university.
On the assumption that you are not a troll (I am never sure about this), I suggest that you seek some professional counselling about your obsession with past grievances, your endless prevarication about applying to university, and your unrealistic ambitions. If you can stop being an angry version of Walter Mitty, you may be able to find a happier life.
OP, I am sorry for the thread drift.


This exchange is hilarious!

Reply 46

Original post
by Stiffy Byng
The criminal justice system is not an instrument for the pursuit of personal vendettas. No employer can "support" a criminal prosecution. Boasting online about setting up your ex-friends to be intimidated by football hooligans is not a good look.
You really need to snap out of the fantasy world in which you appear to live. Either apply to a university or get a non-graduate job. You are not going to become a zillionaire on the basis of your naive ideas about business. Perhaps you can get into a good university (or any university), but you keep moving the date for your proposed application back another year, and you will never get into any university unless you apply to at least one university.
On the assumption that you are not a troll (I am never sure about this), I suggest that you seek some professional counselling about your obsession with past grievances, your endless prevarication about applying to university, and your unrealistic ambitions. If you can stop being an angry version of Walter Mitty, you may be able to find a happier life.
OP, I am sorry for the thread drift.
The fact is it has been going on for two decades and Disruptive Candidate S belongs in prison for his role in disrupting my exams and Sixth Form applications. That's why, my GCSE and A-Level grades suffered and I severely underachieved academically.

Assault occasioning actual bodily harm, (he never got to harm me as a truck driver turned up in the alleyway)

Attempted theft of mobile phone (multiple counts)

Violent disorder (multiple counts)

Making death threats online via e-mail and social media (multiple counts)

Affray

Starting a fight almost outside a shop.

Being witness to other boys being victim too. (multiple counts)

There will be a court case inevitably so.

I am completely realistic about my goals, but it has not been easy with so much harm coming from my former friends.

Also, you don't understand nor know everything about my life and can't judge me completely.

Reply 47

giggling at this conversation 😭 I love TSR because you get life-saving college advice and then... this... LMAO

Reply 48

OMG I felt like that when Kamala lost.

Reply 49

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by Anonymous
I know it sounds so dramatic but I feel empty like okay so I have depression and i have this emptiness, a sense of hopelessness 24/7, however it has been my to study at Oxford since year 5 when I discovered the university. I have always been academically tuned and I try my hardest, in the holiday I locked myself in my room and only did maths and managed to bring my grades up from a D to an A, I applied with A*A*A and A in epq , I read 6 books in 15 days during the holiday for my personal statement (I didn’t include them al) and I tried so so hard, I then applied to oxford and it gave me something to look forward to, even though it was like impending, I tried for the first time to harbour a positive mindset, the castles are so beautiful and it’s like the embodiment of academic success , I knew my gcses (999777765) may be a bit low but I really really put effort, I prayed, I’d have a flutter in my chest just thinking about it, it was so perfect, like the little reminant of my childhood as it was my dream and they rejected me, didn’t even call me to the interview, I really did try to believe they’d call me, now I have nothing to look forward to, to motivate me to try because it’s already hard enough with depression and ik it’s silly but the idea of studying at Oxford in a year allowed me to assign some purpose to carrying on and trying. I have 0 friends in school and I just sit in the library break and lunch either catching up on work or revising and I thought just maybe they’d call me so it would make these past 2 years worth it, but now it’s the end of a dream, purposelessness and the feeling of rejection. And they always say rejection is redirection, however, post Oxford, I saw rejection after rejection, I failed my driving test, slaughter and may didn’t accept my application to their law scheme, I don’t understand why I am never enough even though I pour blood sweat and tears into these things, I go above and beyond academically and then I am stuck in the position below those who don’t try as hard , and are happy with friends, while I’m alone always just out of reach of my aspirations. I am fully aware I could just study at Oxford for masters and I understand this is overly dramatic but it’s a bad feeling and I have revision to do today but I feel so demotivated , I have had my Oxford sticker from open evening stuck on my desk as a motivator but idk it just sucks like I don’t get it but it is what it is

I am very sorry for your rejection from Oxford and Slaughter and May. Therefore, regarding Slaughter and May, I can only surmise that you wanted Oxford law. This is very, very hard to get into at the best of times, however there are many, many people applying, even with great LNAT scores and GCSE grades (and successful candidates tend to have 8 x 8/9s to get in for Oxford law). I also know someone who works for Slaughter and May, and it is the biggest and most successful law company in the UK, so it's virtually impossible to get into for that as well.

You seem to want to have the very, very best with these two options. If they are the best, they are also the most competitive. You are pushing yourself very hard. When my son was applying to medical school, I told him to apply to two really good ones, but also some that are "relatively" easier, so if the top ones rejected him, he could still become a doctor.

It's the same with law (where applicants do face a lot of rejection). However, presumably, you have applied to other law schools. If you get accepted at another one of your choices, you will still be a lawyer, won't you?

If I could show you the anguished private messages I get from people who are desperate to get into Oxford law and have failed both pre-and post interview stage, you will realise that you are not alone. Life does not stop because you have not got an interview. The sun still shines, you still have your family, and a whole bright future ahead of you (if you are clever enough to apply for law, you will still have a lot going for you.) You have study skills, you are driven and hard working. You just need to pick yourself up, start again and channel those skills into whatever works for you.

I do understand, as I was rejected from Durham modern languages when I was a sixth former. Years later, it matters so little, that I rarely think about it until I comment on threads like this.

Reply 50

Original post
by Stiffy Byng
Why would I not watch TV or follow sports? As for praying, I think that life is too short to waste time on imaginary friends, but you should of course chat to your imaginary friend as much as you wish.
Your posts never make me unhappy. They often add to the gaiety of life. I think, however, that you should stop pretending to be an authoritative source on things about which you have no first hand experience or knowledge, because doing that is not helpful to others.
If you don't obtain work experience in the summer of 2027, will you then postpone your application for another year? Is it your plan to be the oldest undergraduate in the history of Oxford?
You will have to compete with the late Mr Justice Oliver Popplewell (1927-2024). He studied Classics and Law at Cambridge in the late 1940s, but, after he retired from the Bench in 2003, he went to Harris Manchester College to study PPE. He was then aged seventy five. A Cambridge Cricket Blue, I do not suppose that he got an Oxford Cricket Blue as well.
Thread-drifting wildly, some Factoids (TL/DR - Oliver Popplewell was a dirty dog).
Oliver Popplewell was Stephen Fry's Godfather, and defended Fry in Court when he committed a credit card fraud at the age of eighteen.
Popplewell was obsessed with cricket, and was quite a lazy Judge, although he was always very pleasant to appear before. If appearing in a trial before Popplewell at the RCJ when there was a test match on at Lords or The Oval, you and your learned opponent would quickly find yourself invited into the Judge's room for tea, with your wigs in your lap, and a bit of "Ladies, gentlemen, can't we sort this out? There must be a possibility of settlement here, surely?" With luck, the Judge would be at the match before the second innings. These days we must call this "Alternative Dispute Resolution".
At the age of eighty, Popplewell ran off with Mrs Justice Elizabeth Gloster, then aged fifty four, who was at the time the wife of Stanley Brodie QC, then aged seventy four. Stanley, arguably the best trial lawyer of his generation, was younger, cleverer, richer, and more interesting than Oliver, but Liz (a dazzling legal talent who was at one time the highest earning woman at the Bar) preferred Oliver for some reason. Liz is retired now, having made it to the Court of Appeal but not to the Supreme Court (because the plodding Mary Arden was over-promoted there and blocked the brilliant Liz's advancement). Stanley died in 2022 and Oliver died earlier this year.
Law students everywhere have Stanley to thank for R v Cunningham [1957] 2 QB 396. Stanley was just three years call when he won that case in the Court of Appeal. I was very fond of Stanley. I was not over fond of Oliver. Everyone loves Liz.

Imaginary friends, lol

Reply 51

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by harikrishsomu
There is a life beyond academics, and most people learn this the hard way. Dedicating your high school days to studying isn't wrong, but you should know that the world isn't just full of Ivy-league and Oxbridge graduates. You're young and have so many years ahead to achieve something remarkable. At the end, all this does is prepare you for the harsh reality. There is nothing I can do to make you feel better since I have no personal experience, and your pain is justified. But trust me, everything gets better

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Reply 52

Original post
by thegeek888
The fact is it has been going on for two decades and Disruptive Candidate S belongs in prison for his role in disrupting my exams and Sixth Form applications. That's why, my GCSE and A-Level grades suffered and I severely underachieved academically.

Assault occasioning actual bodily harm, (he never got to harm me as a truck driver turned up in the alleyway)

Attempted theft of mobile phone (multiple counts)

Violent disorder (multiple counts)

Making death threats online via e-mail and social media (multiple counts)

Affray

Starting a fight almost outside a shop.

Being witness to other boys being victim too. (multiple counts)

There will be a court case inevitably so.
I am completely realistic about my goals, but it has not been easy with so much harm coming from my former friends.
Also, you don't understand nor know everything about my life and can't judge me completely.

You tell us that you are in your late thirties, but you are still blaming some events which you say happened (mainly to other people, not to you) almost two decades ago for your lack of progress in life. You appear to be obsessed with one alleged offender. If he's such a big crim, leave him to the police, the CPS, and the courts to sort out. That's not your job.

You post here about your plans to go to Oxford, qualify in multiple professions, and become super rich through business ideas which you consider to be innovative (but which are bog standard and not remotely original). You appear unwilling to take the first step in your master plan (namely, actually apply to Oxford - the date of your notional application keeps on going back a year). You tell us elsewhere that you have written a "report" to persuade Oxford to change its law course (a report which, if it exists, Oxford wll throw straight in to the bin). You are apparently still living with your parents and dependent on them financially.

You are perhaps unware who Walter Mitty was, but you come across as Walter Mitty.

I mean this kindly: go and talk to a therapist about getting your life out of a rut and actually achieving something. There is more to life than dreaming about the dreaming spires. Ask Jude the Obscure about that.

Reply 53

Original post
by Anonymous
I know it sounds so dramatic but I feel empty like okay so I have depression and i have this emptiness, a sense of hopelessness 24/7, however it has been my to study at Oxford since year 5 when I discovered the university. I have always been academically tuned and I try my hardest, in the holiday I locked myself in my room and only did maths and managed to bring my grades up from a D to an A, I applied with A*A*A and A in epq , I read 6 books in 15 days during the holiday for my personal statement (I didn’t include them al) and I tried so so hard, I then applied to oxford and it gave me something to look forward to, even though it was like impending, I tried for the first time to harbour a positive mindset, the castles are so beautiful and it’s like the embodiment of academic success , I knew my gcses (999777765) may be a bit low but I really really put effort, I prayed, I’d have a flutter in my chest just thinking about it, it was so perfect, like the little reminant of my childhood as it was my dream and they rejected me, didn’t even call me to the interview, I really did try to believe they’d call me, now I have nothing to look forward to, to motivate me to try because it’s already hard enough with depression and ik it’s silly but the idea of studying at Oxford in a year allowed me to assign some purpose to carrying on and trying. I have 0 friends in school and I just sit in the library break and lunch either catching up on work or revising and I thought just maybe they’d call me so it would make these past 2 years worth it, but now it’s the end of a dream, purposelessness and the feeling of rejection. And they always say rejection is redirection, however, post Oxford, I saw rejection after rejection, I failed my driving test, slaughter and may didn’t accept my application to their law scheme, I don’t understand why I am never enough even though I pour blood sweat and tears into these things, I go above and beyond academically and then I am stuck in the position below those who don’t try as hard , and are happy with friends, while I’m alone always just out of reach of my aspirations. I am fully aware I could just study at Oxford for masters and I understand this is overly dramatic but it’s a bad feeling and I have revision to do today but I feel so demotivated , I have had my Oxford sticker from open evening stuck on my desk as a motivator but idk it just sucks like I don’t get it but it is what it is

OP you’ve received a lot of kind words and advice on here (as well as being exposed to some harsh truths) but I’ll add my two cents on this.

I was rejected from Cambridge pre-interview for law recently. Unlike you, I did not have all my hopes and dreams set on Cambridge, partially because I knew that one aspect of my application was incredibly weak, despite having extenuating circumstances. I applied not because I simply had the grades, but because I felt that I would thrive in the learning environment and well, other than that I liked the course and the student life (which is more than enough reason to apply anywhere). The rejection was more so a relief to me as it meant I could firstly, snap out of the momentary Oxbridge fantasy and secondly, get back to what was more important - my A levels. I took the rejection well in comparison to some other stories I’ve seen online about being rejected, but that came down to the rationale I had when applying to university in the first place. I don’t know which other universities you’ve applied to but I hope, for your mental health’s sake that they are not the most competitive universities to get into for law. I say this because you have five choices for a reason, and I’d hope that those other four are universities that you are somewhat okay with going to and are realistically places that you can get into grades-wise. Having the interview burden taken away felt like a weight lifted off my shoulders. Amidst winter mocks, learning harder, new content and figuring out how and when to start the final A levels preparation, not having to think about interviews, wait on another decision in January and stress about having to meet the conditions of that offer if worst comes to worst has definitely helped to keep me on track mentally. It’s also not worth dwelling too much on why you were rejected.

Oxford as you know, tend to shortlist fewer people for interview than Cambridge, but this does not mean you were not good enough to go there. Some of the smartest most capable people I know didn’t even apply to Oxbridge, not because they thought they couldn’t get in, but because they realised that for all that effort, it wasn’t worth it. I was fortunate enough to gain a scholarship from a top commercial law firm and while I was not discouraged from applying to Oxbridge, I wasn’t encouraged either. This is because they had faith in my abilities either way. I didn’t and don’t need to go to Oxbridge to be successful and neither do you. Going to Oxbridge doesn’t guarantee you success and it may well not even boost your chances of success, because success is dependent on your actions as an individual. The other day I heard about an MIT CS graduate who’s been homeless and jobless for 14 months post-graduation. On the other hand, I know people who graduated from non-RG universities and have made their way to senior associate status at silver circle law firms.

Not to be too harsh, but it sounds to me like a lot of your life seems to revolve around studying. The issue with this that you’ll slowly start to see in time is that you neglect the things in life that make us human. Social interaction, hobbies, silly gossip and banter and humour. Once you step away from the books, you may see that there is much more to life than simply getting the best grades. Merely seeking academic validation is a slippery slope to burnout and depression that so many students, particularly those admitted to top universities like Oxbridge, find themselves going through. I encourage you to, over the next few months, do some things outside of school that make you happy. That may be anything from sports to volunteering to expressing your creativity. If you don’t feel comfortable doing so inside school, you may wish to build connections with people outside of school. Reach out to students and applicants at other universities that you’re interested in. Assuming you get or have already received some offers, attend some offer holder days and converse with people on your course. University isn’t meant to be all about studying and life isn’t meant to be all about work. If it were then we’d be wage slaves with no free will (whether we are or aren’t currently is a discussion for another day).

Just to reiterate because this is getting quite long, Oxbridge is certainly not the end all be all, nor is it right for everyone. Admissions can’t admit everyone who’s capable and talented. They sometimes admit the wrong people and don’t admit the right ones. The hardest workers often get rejected but the brightest people will be successful no matter where they go and what they do in life. Rejection might not always be a relief as it was for me, but despite all the nos you’ll face in life, it only takes one yes to potentially change everything. Stay positive, reach out to people for support and keep working hard. Slaughter and May might not want you now but if you’re smart about how you use your time, energy and dedication, they may be ready for you later down the line. Wishing you the best of luck in all that you do and take care of your mental health :smile:

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by Stiffy Byng
You tell us that you are in your late thirties, but you are still blaming some events which you say happened (mainly to other people, not to you) almost two decades ago for your lack of progress in life. You appear to be obsessed with one alleged offender. If he's such a big crim, leave him to the police, the CPS, and the courts to sort out. That's not your job.
You post here about your plans to go to Oxford, qualify in multiple professions, and become super rich through business ideas which you consider to be innovative (but which are bog standard and not remotely original). You appear unwilling to take the first step in your master plan (namely, actually apply to Oxford - the date of your notional application keeps on going back a year). You tell us elsewhere that you have written a "report" to persuade Oxford to change its law course (a report which, if it exists, Oxford wll throw straight in to the bin). You are apparently still living with your parents and dependent on them financially.
You are perhaps unware who Walter Mitty was, but you come across as Walter Mitty.
I mean this kindly: go and talk to a therapist about getting your life out of a rut and actually achieving something. There is more to life than dreaming about the dreaming spires. Ask Jude the Obscure about that.
Wow...I can't believe I missed such a great movie before. So, now I will watch "The Secret Life of Walter Milly" 🙂 lol

I have already seen in a dream I had multiple offers for Law from Oxford, LSE, UCL, KCL and SOAS. Probably because I have gathered every past paper and book and revision guide for my subjects and will learn beyond the specifications. Also, I am using "Lingo Pie" for Spanish and French and therefore will be highly effective for mastering the languages. 😉

Somebody has to tell Oxford Law department they need to offer more optional papers as there is such a great range and arguably the best in the world, better than Harvard and Yale Law School. Furthermore, I have had all my e-mails read by whoever I emailed at Oxford University, so they will read my report. 😀

My heroes are Bill Gates, Mark Zuckerburg, Warren Buffett, Larry Ellison, Sergey Brin, Larry Page, Micheal Dell, Jeff Bezos and Elon Musk, I have got so many books on them and will one day be acquired by some of them perhaps?!. Because I have had two decades to plan and learn about technologies and unlike you I have grown up with Internet/WWW and the 'rapid' paced advancements in computer hardware and software.

Who knows I might see you at the Wadham College, Oxford Open Day in September 2027 and show you my results too?!
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Reply 55

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by thegeek888
Wow...I can't believe I missed such a great movie before. So, now I will watch "The Secret Life of Walter Milly" 🙂 lol
I have already seen in a dream I had multiple offers for Law from Oxford, LSE, UCL, KCL and SOAS. Probably because I have gathered every past paper and book and revision guide for my subjects and will learn beyond the specifications. Also, I am using "Lingo Pie" for Spanish and French and therefore will be highly effective for mastering the languages. 😉
Somebody has to tell Oxford Law department they need to offer more optional papers as there is such a great range and arguably the best in the world, better than Harvard and Yale Law School. Furthermore, I have had all my e-mails read by whoever I emailed at Oxford University, so they will read my report. 😀
My heroes are Bill Gates, Mark Zuckerburg, Warren Buffett, Larry Ellison, Sergey Brin, Larry Page, Micheal Dell, Jeff Bezos and Elon Musk, I have got so many books on them and will one day be acquired by some of them perhaps?!. Because I have had two decades to plan and learn about technologies and unlike you I have grown up with Internet/WWW and the 'rapid' paced advancements in computer hardware and software.
Who knows I might see you at the Wadham College, Oxford Open Day in September 2027 and show you my results too?!

All that tech, and the best business idea you can come up with is that you might "sell products and services". If you really think that the University of Oxford will change its law degree because some bloke who hasn't even passed an A level tells them to do so, I suggest that you avoid anyone who offers to sell you a bridge.

You won't see me at any Wadham open day, for two reasons, namely : (1) I don't go to Wadham open days; and (2) neither do you.

Anyway, shall we let the OP have his or her thread back?

Reply 56

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by Picnicl
I totally disagree. It is the equivalent of sympathising with someone because some supermodel turned them down when they asked for a date. Fantasies need no sympathy. Being unfairly treated needs sympathy but they were not unfairly treated. We can't keep responding to pity posts as if all are equal.

Isn't the college admissions system unfair to an extent? There were probably so many candidates that met Oxford's criteria, but not all of them could've gotten a place because ultimately its a matter of luck. Like your interviewer saw some potential in your personal statement and spent enough time reading to truly understand the ideas you were presenting. So there is an element of unfairness. Also - your metaphor - in this case it would be more appropriate for the 'someone' to be a person who worked hard to meet that supermodel in the first place, spent hours and hours to have a chance, and is just ignored by the 'supermodel' on the first glance.

Reply 57

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by Picnicl
I totally disagree. It is the equivalent of sympathising with someone because some supermodel turned them down when they asked for a date. Fantasies need no sympathy. Being unfairly treated needs sympathy but they were not unfairly treated. We can't keep responding to pity posts as if all are equal.

and I think what OP feels is really unfair is the fact that some people who get into Oxford can just do so because they have a better memory or were richer and able to afford more resources, while OP worked very hard to get here and Oxford didnt even recognise their determination and resilience.

Reply 58

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by unsure-student
Isn't the college admissions system unfair to an extent? There were probably so many candidates that met Oxford's criteria, but not all of them could've gotten a place because ultimately its a matter of luck. Like your interviewer saw some potential in your personal statement and spent enough time reading to truly understand the ideas you were presenting. So there is an element of unfairness. Also - your metaphor - in this case it would be more appropriate for the 'someone' to be a person who worked hard to meet that supermodel in the first place, spent hours and hours to have a chance, and is just ignored by the 'supermodel' on the first glance.

It is known that Oxford will dismiss people with relatively poor GCSES. So it is like going up to the supermodel with spinach in your teeth even though the supermodel gave prior warning that she won't consider anyone with spinach in their teeth.

Reply 59

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by unsure-student
and I think what OP feels is really unfair is the fact that some people who get into Oxford can just do so because they have a better memory or were richer and able to afford more resources, while OP worked very hard to get here and Oxford didnt even recognise their determination and resilience.

Oxford isn't always the best environment for everyone, regardless of how talented they are, though. It could be a pretty boring place for some people, once the novelty rubs off

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