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Am I genderfluid

So this is random, but tbh not something that bothers me that much, just something I'm curious about.
I am a pansexual woman, and I've never experienced dysphoria. I've always had no problem being a woman and I like both feminine and masculine styles, changing what I wear based on how I feel every day. Lately however (I'd say the last 2 years), I have found myself more and more intrigued by the idea of appearing more masculine. I've started thinking about binding my chest and seeing how it feels. I've found myself wishing I could experience being a man, and I have sexual fantasies of being a male engaged in sex with both women and men (like I mentioned I'm already pansexual).
I don't have any desire to actually transition because I also enjoy being a woman as well, and have no problems with my body, but I just have this feeling that if I had the power to shapeshift I'd like to be able to switch between them. Is this what being genderfluid is about? I don't know much about gender or gender theory I won't lie. I'm 22 btw, if that's any help.

Reply 1

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by Anonymous
So this is random, but tbh not something that bothers me that much, just something I'm curious about.
I am a pansexual woman, and I've never experienced dysphoria. I've always had no problem being a woman and I like both feminine and masculine styles, changing what I wear based on how I feel every day. Lately however (I'd say the last 2 years), I have found myself more and more intrigued by the idea of appearing more masculine. I've started thinking about binding my chest and seeing how it feels. I've found myself wishing I could experience being a man, and I have sexual fantasies of being a male engaged in sex with both women and men (like I mentioned I'm already pansexual).
I don't have any desire to actually transition because I also enjoy being a woman as well, and have no problems with my body, but I just have this feeling that if I had the power to shapeshift I'd like to be able to switch between them. Is this what being genderfluid is about? I don't know much about gender or gender theory I won't lie. I'm 22 btw, if that's any help.

You seriously either need to take a break from the internet or generally this whole LGBTQ stuff.
I don't say this in a transphobic or homophobic way, but think, would you have ever had these thoughts had you never learnt about binding, genderfluidity, etc?
I too had a time when I was very involved with the LGBTQ to the point I considered myself bisexual and dated 2 women, however, I distanced myself from that stuff and now just go around without labels.

You don't need to label yourself as genderfluid. You don't even need to label yourself as pansexual. Who cares if you're genderfluid as long as you're comfortable in your own skin?
Also, masculinity and femininity have absolutely nothing to do with gender. I'd assume you'd know that. Gender envy is a completely natural thing even explored by psychologists like feud for many years. Doesn't mean you're transgender or genderfluid or whatever, especially if you're comfortable being a woman.

Reply 2

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by Anonymous
So this is random, but tbh not something that bothers me that much, just something I'm curious about.
I am a pansexual woman, and I've never experienced dysphoria. I've always had no problem being a woman and I like both feminine and masculine styles, changing what I wear based on how I feel every day. Lately however (I'd say the last 2 years), I have found myself more and more intrigued by the idea of appearing more masculine. I've started thinking about binding my chest and seeing how it feels. I've found myself wishing I could experience being a man, and I have sexual fantasies of being a male engaged in sex with both women and men (like I mentioned I'm already pansexual).
I don't have any desire to actually transition because I also enjoy being a woman as well, and have no problems with my body, but I just have this feeling that if I had the power to shapeshift I'd like to be able to switch between them. Is this what being genderfluid is about? I don't know much about gender or gender theory I won't lie. I'm 22 btw, if that's any help.

Hi, thanks for sharing your experience, I think is more normal than you think to like both masculine and feminine things. In my own experience I have never met a men who only like things that are 100% considered socially masculine or a women who only likes things that are considered 100% socially feminine. I myself am a women, I work in steam in a very male dominated industry, basically almost everyone in my company is male. I like wearing more "masculine" styles, especially when I work and sometimes when I go out with friends, but I also like wearing very "feminine" clothes, but that still makes me a woman, it just means that I have a wide range of interests and I feel comfortable in different styles.

Also, in my own experience no one really cares (or at least I don't care about whether people care, unless I am doing something illegal or immoral I think I should be free to wear what I want). Like I myself love wearing modest clothing whether I'm wearing feminine styles or masculine ones. I just feel at ease.

I have many friends you consider themselves part of the LGBTQ community, and despite that I don't fully understand all the talk about gender, because I feel like people give a lot of though to how they are perceived by others based on the way they dress. I myself was a tomboy until a few years ago (and I mean the stereotypical tomboy, who really didn't enjoy feminine stuff) and for a period of time I found that I was almost pigeon holding myself and trying my hardest to not even explore the more feminine sides of my personality because I was so caught up in keeping my appearance as a tomboy didn't allow myself to do so. I never considered myself gender fluid or transgender (because at the time I didn't even know those were a thing) and looking back I believe I was/am neither of the two. I was just a girl with a wide range of interests and now I am a young women with a range of interests, many of whom happened to be conventionally "masculine".

So as the previous post mentioned, I think it's a good idea to detach yourself from labels, I don't think labels are bad, I think they become problematic when people based their whole personality around said labels (and I've been there hahaha, and let me tell you after a while is not fun).

I am happy to year that you feel comfortable in your own body, and I am sure you are an interesting well rounder person with a range of different interests.

Reply 3

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by Anonymous
Hi, thanks for sharing your experience, I think is more normal than you think to like both masculine and feminine things. In my own experience I have never met a men who only like things that are 100% considered socially masculine or a women who only likes things that are considered 100% socially feminine. I myself am a women, I work in steam in a very male dominated industry, basically almost everyone in my company is male. I like wearing more "masculine" styles, especially when I work and sometimes when I go out with friends, but I also like wearing very "feminine" clothes, but that still makes me a woman, it just means that I have a wide range of interests and I feel comfortable in different styles.
Also, in my own experience no one really cares (or at least I don't care about whether people care, unless I am doing something illegal or immoral I think I should be free to wear what I want). Like I myself love wearing modest clothing whether I'm wearing feminine styles or masculine ones. I just feel at ease.
I have many friends you consider themselves part of the LGBTQ community, and despite that I don't fully understand all the talk about gender, because I feel like people give a lot of though to how they are perceived by others based on the way they dress. I myself was a tomboy until a few years ago (and I mean the stereotypical tomboy, who really didn't enjoy feminine stuff) and for a period of time I found that I was almost pigeon holding myself and trying my hardest to not even explore the more feminine sides of my personality because I was so caught up in keeping my appearance as a tomboy didn't allow myself to do so. I never considered myself gender fluid or transgender (because at the time I didn't even know those were a thing) and looking back I believe I was/am neither of the two. I was just a girl with a wide range of interests and now I am a young women with a range of interests, many of whom happened to be conventionally "masculine".
So as the previous post mentioned, I think it's a good idea to detach yourself from labels, I don't think labels are bad, I think they become problematic when people based their whole personality around said labels (and I've been there hahaha, and let me tell you after a while is not fun).
I am happy to year that you feel comfortable in your own body, and I am sure you are an interesting well rounder person with a range of different interests.

Sorry for the silly spelling and grammar mistakes, English is not my first language and I am still learning

Reply 4

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by Anonymous
So this is random, but tbh not something that bothers me that much, just something I'm curious about.
I am a pansexual woman, and I've never experienced dysphoria. I've always had no problem being a woman and I like both feminine and masculine styles, changing what I wear based on how I feel every day. Lately however (I'd say the last 2 years), I have found myself more and more intrigued by the idea of appearing more masculine. I've started thinking about binding my chest and seeing how it feels. I've found myself wishing I could experience being a man, and I have sexual fantasies of being a male engaged in sex with both women and men (like I mentioned I'm already pansexual).
I don't have any desire to actually transition because I also enjoy being a woman as well, and have no problems with my body, but I just have this feeling that if I had the power to shapeshift I'd like to be able to switch between them. Is this what being genderfluid is about? I don't know much about gender or gender theory I won't lie. I'm 22 btw, if that's any help.

Also, genderfluid is something I heard about quite recently and my friend was telling me about it. Once I heard of the definition my first thought was "doesn't that apply to basically everybody?". and the more I learned about gender theory the more I found myself thinking that basically every single body is part of the LGBTQ+ community, because at times definitions are so broad and generic that anyone can find an LGBTQ+ label to apply to themselves, I for example found myself relating to at least 5 "labels" including but not limited to: demigender, genderfluid, demisexual, androsexual and androgynous etc... and some of these labels overlap, like a lot

Reply 5

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by Anonymous
You seriously either need to take a break from the internet or generally this whole LGBTQ stuff.
I don't say this in a transphobic or homophobic way, but think, would you have ever had these thoughts had you never learnt about binding, genderfluidity, etc?
I too had a time when I was very involved with the LGBTQ to the point I considered myself bisexual and dated 2 women, however, I distanced myself from that stuff and now just go around without labels.
You don't need to label yourself as genderfluid. You don't even need to label yourself as pansexual. Who cares if you're genderfluid as long as you're comfortable in your own skin?
Also, masculinity and femininity have absolutely nothing to do with gender. I'd assume you'd know that. Gender envy is a completely natural thing even explored by psychologists like feud for many years. Doesn't mean you're transgender or genderfluid or whatever, especially if you're comfortable being a woman.

Hey, thanks for the insight, I think you definitely have a point. Honestly this isn't bothering me that much or anything I was lowkey just bored, and I've never talked to anyone irl about how I feel so I was just curious to see what people thought.

I know what you mean about not having labels and not letting labels define you and I definitely agree, but I also don't think putting a label on something is necessarily a bad thing. I have always liked the term pansexual, to me it encapsulates the fact that I don't look at gender at all when dating, I look at the person themselves. And I think putting labels on things makes it easy to articulate concepts sometimes - that's the whole point of coining new terminology.

And yeah you're right I probably wouldn't be thinking about whether I was "genderfluid" if I had never heard of it, I was more curious if people who know more about that or like that term feel this way. Maybe StudentRoom wasn't exactly the best place for this but I like it more than reddit, where there tend to be more creeps.

Also of course I know being "feminine" or "masculine" doesn't mean anything in term of gender, it was more the actual fantasising and thinking about being physically male that I wondered might be unusual and was wondering about other peoples experiences.

Anyways I get what you're trying to say but chill a little haha you come across as very done 😅

Reply 6

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by Anonymous
Hey, thanks for the insight, I think you definitely have a point. Honestly this isn't bothering me that much or anything I was lowkey just bored, and I've never talked to anyone irl about how I feel so I was just curious to see what people thought.
I know what you mean about not having labels and not letting labels define you and I definitely agree, but I also don't think putting a label on something is necessarily a bad thing. I have always liked the term pansexual, to me it encapsulates the fact that I don't look at gender at all when dating, I look at the person themselves. And I think putting labels on things makes it easy to articulate concepts sometimes - that's the whole point of coining new terminology.
And yeah you're right I probably wouldn't be thinking about whether I was "genderfluid" if I had never heard of it, I was more curious if people who know more about that or like that term feel this way. Maybe StudentRoom wasn't exactly the best place for this but I like it more than reddit, where there tend to be more creeps.
Also of course I know being "feminine" or "masculine" doesn't mean anything in term of gender, it was more the actual fantasising and thinking about being physically male that I wondered might be unusual and was wondering about other peoples experiences.
Anyways I get what you're trying to say but chill a little haha you come across as very done 😅

Honestly I am kind of done lol, I feel like ever since the internet got integrated into our everyday lives people are finding out about things they should've never known and hence mentally our society is generally going downhill (this applies to more than just the LGBTQ btw, it's gotten to a point where people are only feeling an attraction to the same gender/other because they found out about the LGBTQ rather than it being a natural attraction) and because of this there is a LOT of misinformation going around especially regarding gender identity.
And no, it's not unusual. You should read about sigmund freud's penis envy theory.

Reply 7

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by Anonymous
Honestly I am kind of done lol, I feel like ever since the internet got integrated into our everyday lives people are finding out about things they should've never known and hence mentally our society is generally going downhill (this applies to more than just the LGBTQ btw, it's gotten to a point where people are only feeling an attraction to the same gender/other because they found out about the LGBTQ rather than it being a natural attraction) and because of this there is a LOT of misinformation going around especially regarding gender identity.
And no, it's not unusual. You should read about sigmund freud's penis envy theory.

IMO, all that's happened is a wide availability of opinions, personal experiences, and information, which is basically a neutral turn of events. You may not agree with everything you read - not all of it may apply to you or resonate with you, and that's totally okay - but I think you need to be a little less prescriptive and let people find their own paths in life.

Reply 8

Original post
by Anonymous
So this is random, but tbh not something that bothers me that much, just something I'm curious about.
I am a pansexual woman, and I've never experienced dysphoria. I've always had no problem being a woman and I like both feminine and masculine styles, changing what I wear based on how I feel every day. Lately however (I'd say the last 2 years), I have found myself more and more intrigued by the idea of appearing more masculine. I've started thinking about binding my chest and seeing how it feels. I've found myself wishing I could experience being a man, and I have sexual fantasies of being a male engaged in sex with both women and men (like I mentioned I'm already pansexual).
I don't have any desire to actually transition because I also enjoy being a woman as well, and have no problems with my body, but I just have this feeling that if I had the power to shapeshift I'd like to be able to switch between them. Is this what being genderfluid is about? I don't know much about gender or gender theory I won't lie. I'm 22 btw, if that's any help.

This is a fairly common and normal feeling I think, for people who allow themselves to feel it! You should feel free to experiment a bit more and see how, e.g., presenting more masculine from time to time, makes you feel. Seems like a nice way to learn more about yourself.

I'm in much the same boat to be honest. I'm a guy, and I don't have any dysphoria or discomfort with the shape of my body, or with living life with society considering me a man. But I'd love to try being female for a while. If I could do that without side-effects, surgery, social opprobrium etc then I absolutely would.
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Reply 9

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by anosmianAcrimony
IMO, all that's happened is a wide availability of opinions, personal experiences, and information, which is basically a neutral turn of events. You may not agree with everything you read - not all of it may apply to you or resonate with you, and that's totally okay - but I think you need to be a little less prescriptive and let people find their own paths in life.

I just think it's being somewhat overdone. Not only that, but ever since technology has become widespread, people seem loneliner than ever. What this plethora of new identities etc does is it created communities people may start joining not because it's something that actually relate to, but because they need a community to belong to (humans are social creatures, after all.) I don't think there's anything wrong with exploring one's identity, hell, I do psychology, I know how important that is. I too experimented and explored with mine and found what fit me, but it almost feels like there's this hidden pressure to be a part of a specific group that many might conform to and lose their true sense of self just to fit into an already existing label. I don't know, that's kind of a rant. I hope it made sense.

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