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Hello guys
I’m yr 11 now
I just wanted to know if anyone knows any colleges or sixth forms in Manchester that I can do biology and chemistry and another A level with foundation maths and science GCSE?
The truth is that you’ll struggle immensely with chemistry and biology at a level having only done foundation for gcse.
I have friends and classmates who did combined higher (so harder than foundation) for science and theyre struggling with the increase in difficulty. I did triple higher and the step up from gcse is still noticeable despite me getting 998 in science.
You could probably do the maths elements of biology with only foundation level maths but chemistry has some very maths based topics which means most sixth forms require a 6 from what ive seen.
Grade requirements are there to make sure people have the knowledge and skills to make sure they are able to start the courses.
What grades are you currently working at in science and maths? If theres a possibility of moving onto higher combined that will broaden your options but that’s only really if you’re getting close to 5s or 5s on tests and feel confident- even with that you’ll need to put in a lot of work to catch up in time for your GCSEs and after that to get up to speed before the start of year 12.
Is there a specific reason you want to take a levels? Have you considered applied science as an option?
Hope this helps and happy to assist further if you have any questions or anything! Hope you have a fantastic day 🙂

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by DerDracologe
The truth is that you’ll struggle immensely with chemistry and biology at a level having only done foundation for gcse.
I have friends and classmates who did combined higher (so harder than foundation) for science and theyre struggling with the increase in difficulty. I did triple higher and the step up from gcse is still noticeable despite me getting 998 in science.
You could probably do the maths elements of biology with only foundation level maths but chemistry has some very maths based topics which means most sixth forms require a 6 from what ive seen.
Grade requirements are there to make sure people have the knowledge and skills to make sure they are able to start the courses.
What grades are you currently working at in science and maths? If theres a possibility of moving onto higher combined that will broaden your options but that’s only really if you’re getting close to 5s or 5s on tests and feel confident- even with that you’ll need to put in a lot of work to catch up in time for your GCSEs and after that to get up to speed before the start of year 12.
Is there a specific reason you want to take a levels? Have you considered applied science as an option?
Hope this helps and happy to assist further if you have any questions or anything! Hope you have a fantastic day 🙂


Actually the reason that I’m doing foundation for maths and science is I came to Manchester 8 months ago (May) and that time when I arrived here I did yr 10 mocks and because I came so late, I messed up my yr 10 mocks and then in the Thursday I got my yr 11 mock results and my target grade for maths is 5 and for science is 4-4
I want to be a dentist so I think separate A levels ( chemistry and biology)is better for this

Reply 3

Original post
by DerDracologe
The truth is that you’ll struggle immensely with chemistry and biology at a level having only done foundation for gcse.
I have friends and classmates who did combined higher (so harder than foundation) for science and theyre struggling with the increase in difficulty. I did triple higher and the step up from gcse is still noticeable despite me getting 998 in science.
You could probably do the maths elements of biology with only foundation level maths but chemistry has some very maths based topics which means most sixth forms require a 6 from what ive seen.
Grade requirements are there to make sure people have the knowledge and skills to make sure they are able to start the courses.
What grades are you currently working at in science and maths? If theres a possibility of moving onto higher combined that will broaden your options but that’s only really if you’re getting close to 5s or 5s on tests and feel confident- even with that you’ll need to put in a lot of work to catch up in time for your GCSEs and after that to get up to speed before the start of year 12.
Is there a specific reason you want to take a levels? Have you considered applied science as an option?
Hope this helps and happy to assist further if you have any questions or anything! Hope you have a fantastic day 🙂


And then I think in the February I will have my last yr 11 mocks before actual GCSE but I don’t think even if I will be get grade 5 in maths and science they will let me to do higher
What do you think?
Okay that makes sense. In that case (assuming its not a lack of ability causing your lower grades) my advice would be to lock in and work really hard to catch up to a level where you’d be able to get 5s in foundation across these subjects and prove this (through past papers and in class assessments) to your teacher. Speak to your teacher or whoever at school as soon as possible and ask if theres any extra support you can have to improve your grades. If you can show youre able in these subjects then you can ask to move to the combined higher papers but make sure to ask about this before exam entries are submitted (ask your school when they do this).
For dentistry it’s very competitive so you’ll need top grades at a level and your gcse grades will also need to be good. From what i know youre right to think that taking science a levels is the way to go- check some uni requirements though!
If you’re unable to take science a levels however, you could always take applied science or another course and then consider a foundation year for entry if you’d meet the requirements- have a look on unis websites to see!

Reply 5

Original post
by DerDracologe
Okay that makes sense. In that case (assuming its not a lack of ability causing your lower grades) my advice would be to lock in and work really hard to catch up to a level where you’d be able to get 5s in foundation across these subjects and prove this (through past papers and in class assessments) to your teacher. Speak to your teacher or whoever at school as soon as possible and ask if theres any extra support you can have to improve your grades. If you can show youre able in these subjects then you can ask to move to the combined higher papers but make sure to ask about this before exam entries are submitted (ask your school when they do this).
For dentistry it’s very competitive so you’ll need top grades at a level and your gcse grades will also need to be good. From what i know youre right to think that taking science a levels is the way to go- check some uni requirements though!
If you’re unable to take science a levels however, you could always take applied science or another course and then consider a foundation year for entry if you’d meet the requirements- have a look on unis websites to see!


Thanks so much in the Monday I will talk to the head of science teacher

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