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Applied law btec unit 3

We were given part A today, what are you thoughts as to what we will have to write about

Reply 1

I’ve looked at the pre-release material, and I’d love to discuss it further to get more insights into what topics might come up. Personally, I think Article 1 relates to Unlawful Act Manslaughter, while Article 2 seems to involve Criminal Damage. I’m not entirely sure what defenses could apply to Article 2, though.
What do you think about the potential Police Powers question? Any guesses on what it might cover?

Reply 2

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by saddahvcfgbn
I’ve looked at the pre-release material, and I’d love to discuss it further to get more insights into what topics might come up. Personally, I think Article 1 relates to Unlawful Act Manslaughter, while Article 2 seems to involve Criminal Damage. I’m not entirely sure what defenses could apply to Article 2, though.
What do you think about the potential Police Powers question? Any guesses on what it might cover?


or it could be gross negligence manslaughter as im unsure on what the criminal act would be for unlawful act manslaughter ?

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by sugarplum200
or it could be gross negligence manslaughter as im unsure on what the criminal act would be for unlawful act manslaughter ?

That’s what I would be thinking as well but I’m not really sure. I asked my teacher and she said that it would be more likely UAM but it could be GNM. What is your opinion on the prediction on article 2

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by saddahvcfgbn
That’s what I would be thinking as well but I’m not really sure. I asked my teacher and she said that it would be more likely UAM but it could be GNM. What is your opinion on the prediction on article 2


not sure on that one yet, i focused on writing notes for the first article, i wasted my time and wrote about murder as i didn’t read the question properly so haven’t looked at article 2 yet

Reply 5

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by sugarplum200
not sure on that one yet, i focused on writing notes for the first article, i wasted my time and wrote about murder as i didn’t read the question properly so haven’t looked at article 2 yet

So the reason I think it would be unlawful act manslaughter is that Lauren would be trying to murder Dani and she was running away, then died due hitting the pavement. Where the dangerous unlawful act would be attempted murder or assault. GNM is unsure because there is no relationship seen between Lauren and Dani. I give you more insights when I talk to my teacher

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by saddahvcfgbn
So the reason I think it would be unlawful act manslaughter is that Lauren would be trying to murder Dani and she was running away, then died due hitting the pavement. Where the dangerous unlawful act would be attempted murder or assault. GNM is unsure because there is no relationship seen between Lauren and Dani. I give you more insights when I talk to my teacher


that makes sense , thank you

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by saddahvcfgbn
So the reason I think it would be unlawful act manslaughter is that Lauren would be trying to murder Dani and she was running away, then died due hitting the pavement. Where the dangerous unlawful act would be attempted murder or assault. GNM is unsure because there is no relationship seen between Lauren and Dani. I give you more insights when I talk to my teacher


also, are you saying that the question definitely wouldn’t be on murder as i wrote about that in my notes, think i’ll have to delete it to fit more in about UAM

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by sugarplum200
also, are you saying that the question definitely wouldn’t be on murder as i wrote about that in my notes, think i’ll have to delete it to fit more in about UAM

Really don’t know. But murder is an easy topic to learn. I know it in my mind. So if it is that, im not going to write it into notes. Also 2024 paper was murder so less chance it is going to come up as they don’t repeat the same topics twice. It is a rare occurance

Reply 9

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by saddahvcfgbn
Really don’t know. But murder is an easy topic to learn. I know it in my mind. So if it is that, im not going to write it into notes. Also 2024 paper was murder so less chance it is going to come up as they don’t repeat the same topics twice. It is a rare occurance


thank you, we haven’t seen 2023-2024 papers so were unsure what has recently come up

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by sugarplum200
thank you, we haven’t seen 2023-2024 papers so were unsure what has recently come up

I can give you all papers, but my teacher said the pre release notes on article 1 were harsh on us because it ranges from a lot of topics. It could be GNM due to tripping which could suggest someone has placed something incorrectly which made her trip, then caused the death. It could be UAM due to predicting someone is commuting an unlawful act which caused the death, because someone doesn’t run down a busy highway street for no reason. Also Murder and DR and LOC couldn’t be it because she tripped, which suggest no one did anything that could cause death. This is a predication, if you want to gamble the topic, then you can. But I suggest you focus on the manslaughter topics with less revision on the murder topics.

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by saddahvcfgbn
I can give you all papers, but my teacher said the pre release notes on article 1 were harsh on us because it ranges from a lot of topics. It could be GNM due to tripping which could suggest someone has placed something incorrectly which made her trip, then caused the death. It could be UAM due to predicting someone is commuting an unlawful act which caused the death, because someone doesn’t run down a busy highway street for no reason. Also Murder and DR and LOC couldn’t be it because she tripped, which suggest no one did anything that could cause death. This is a predication, if you want to gamble the topic, then you can. But I suggest you focus on the manslaughter topics with less revision on the murder topics.


yes it was harsh, as when i’ve looked at previous papers they have given more concept to the scenario, I wrote about GNM and UAM in my notes today and about police powers, i’ve started writing about criminal damage, would possibly need to include arson too?

Reply 12

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by sugarplum200
yes it was harsh, as when i’ve looked at previous papers they have given more concept to the scenario, I wrote about GNM and UAM in my notes today and about police powers, i’ve started writing about criminal damage, would possibly need to include arson too?


Defo include arson, both aggravated and basic :smile: defenses, because of us being unclear if it is basic or aggravated arson, we don’t know if it is specific or basic intent. Include all defenses if I was you. Same with police powers.

Reply 13

Article one- no idea on the offence, it is the cruelest pre release I have seen in a while.

Examiners reports from last year said that no indication about the police power is given in part A, and so learners should prepare for any outcome (I.e. include them all in your notes!!)

Article 2- it is criminal damage for sure with a charge of either basic or aggravated arson added on (remember the defendant would be charged with BOTH offenses as 2 separate counts.

Defences- include in notes which defenses are excluded for specific or basic intent crimes, as this matters for the arson when considering intent or recklessness. I’d include all. Only one I might risk not including is self defence in the basis that the hotel was derelict and so it’s unlikely there was a relevant, active threat needing self defence.

Really interesting to hear people discussing GNM/ UAM, it’s made me look at the prerelease from a new angle entirely

Reply 14

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by ryanjx
Article one- no idea on the offence, it is the cruelest pre release I have seen in a while.
Examiners reports from last year said that no indication about the police power is given in part A, and so learners should prepare for any outcome (I.e. include them all in your notes!!)
Article 2- it is criminal damage for sure with a charge of either basic or aggravated arson added on (remember the defendant would be charged with BOTH offenses as 2 separate counts.
Defences- include in notes which defenses are excluded for specific or basic intent crimes, as this matters for the arson when considering intent or recklessness. I’d include all. Only one I might risk not including is self defence in the basis that the hotel was derelict and so it’s unlikely there was a relevant, active threat needing self defence.
Really interesting to hear people discussing GNM/ UAM, it’s made me look at the prerelease from a new angle entirely


how did you view the pre release in regards of article one ?

Reply 15

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by sugarplum200
how did you view the pre release in regards of article one ?


I couldn’t really form any cohesive opinion about it- I was feeling dragged every which way. But I’m almost certain now it’s UAM with the UA being assault (OAPA) or harassment. This is based on the fact that no hints are given about any obvious trip hazard in the street, and it isn’t always reasonably foreseeable that someone would be running as a result of being chased.

Reply 16

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by saddahvcfgbn
I’ve looked at the pre-release material, and I’d love to discuss it further to get more insights into what topics might come up. Personally, I think Article 1 relates to Unlawful Act Manslaughter, while Article 2 seems to involve Criminal Damage. I’m not entirely sure what defenses could apply to Article 2, though.
What do you think about the potential Police Powers question? Any guesses on what it might cover?

Do u have a checklist of topics to include in notes? My tutors been very absent and my whole class is behind very unsure about what is necessary.

Reply 17

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by Userhajdkekdk
Do u have a checklist of topics to include in notes? My tutors been very absent and my whole class is behind very unsure about what is necessary.

Include Unlawful Act Manslaughter, add some of GNM but try to remember it in your head by recapping it everyday. If you can, don’t add criminal damage because it is an easy topic and can be easily remembered. If you bad at memory retention, then add Criminal Damage. Add all defences expect from self defence because it is not likely that. It is likely duress by threats and intoxication. Police powers, add what you can’t remember and include section, like section 28,1,40,41,42 because these are what the examiner don’t find and can lose marks easily

Reply 18

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by saddahvcfgbn
Include Unlawful Act Manslaughter, add some of GNM but try to remember it in your head by recapping it everyday. If you can, don’t add criminal damage because it is an easy topic and can be easily remembered. If you bad at memory retention, then add Criminal Damage. Add all defences expect from self defence because it is not likely that. It is likely duress by threats and intoxication. Police powers, add what you can’t remember and include section, like section 28,1,40,41,42 because these are what the examiner don’t find and can lose marks easily

Thankyou very much, my tutor has also said we aren’t allowed to include any notes about police powers and to just revise them instead, I haven’t seen anyone else mention this though so I’m thinking my teacher is wrong.

Reply 19

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by saddahvcfgbn
I’ve looked at the pre-release material, and I’d love to discuss it further to get more insights into what topics might come up. Personally, I think Article 1 relates to Unlawful Act Manslaughter, while Article 2 seems to involve Criminal Damage. I’m not entirely sure what defenses could apply to Article 2, though.
What do you think about the potential Police Powers question? Any guesses on what it might cover?

Where can you see pre release material?

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