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Medicine to Physics: 2 Gap Years?

Hi,
I'm currently a Year 13 student and I've just applied for Medicine and got interviews back but I've realised that I really don't want to do Medicine and instead want to do Physics. I chose to do Medicine at first for many personal and familial reasons (I think you can imply the rest) and for the most part of my Med application I've been confused as to whether it's what I really wanted. I do all sciences and maths for A Levels so, in terms of academics I think as long as I get good results this year I will be okay to reapply for Physics.

The only issue is that all my supercurriculars are for Medicine and not Physics - like competitions, work experience etc. I've read and am reading quite a few books on Physics and have done the Chemistry Olympiad and Maths Challenge but didn't do the Physics Olympiad because I needed the time to focus on my Med application when the opportunity for it arose.

So basically I'm worried about what exactly it is that I can put in my personal statement and talk about at interviews - if I apply to universities that require interviews for physics or related courses. And I don't know whether it would be better for me to take 2 gap years rather than 1 - where in the first I'd build up my personal statement and in the second I'd apply.

Honestly, I don't want to take 2 years out of education but I'm perfectly happy taking one. I just wanted to know if anyone's done anything similar because I really don't know anyone who has and, apart from my teachers, I don't know who to ask about it. I also want to know whether I should take 2 or if anyone knows how I can build up my personal statement in the summer. I'm going to look into work experience placements I can do in the summer and read more books but what else can I do? Because I know a lot of competitions open at the beginning of new school years.

Also just general words of advice would be really helpful because as much as I am excited to finally be able to do what I want to do I am incredibly scared.

Reply 1

First - well done for going with what you’re genuinely feeling! As someone who chased medicine for a number of years (but changed mind well before UCAS deadline), I know how tough it can be to look at a completely different path.

2 years outside of education may be tough. Remember, when you do apply for physics the universities will look at your education history and see 2 years off. They will want to know exactly what you’ve done to make you a better candidate. Gap years can be useful, but to give yourself a good chance you need to ensure you can fill that time with employment/internships/courses to make you a better candidate.

Have you considered an apprenticeship? I know it’s not necessarily your first thought, but apprenticeships run all year round (with no national deadline), can be in applicable qualifications (ie; degree apprenticeship in Physics/Engineering), and obviously the benefit of 0 debt. I’d suggest you seriously have a look at what’s on offer; as that might be a great alternative to follow your interest, get a degree you’ll enjoy, and not feeling behind.

If not, definitely have a look at internships, a lot of big engineering and science companies offer paid internships, and that could be a great way to get knowledge, some extra cash, and possibly a job offer all in one.

And do still speak to your teachers for their advice, but that’s just some of my ideas above. I wish you the very best of luck for whatever you choose!

Reply 2

What was your fifth choice? As Med is only 4 choices? If you decline all offers you get you get UCAS extra and 1 last choice but ofc not guaranteed that the physics course you like is available ........ I would contact the relevant university and ask them if they would consider a UCAS extra choice and explain your situation and then put that university down. There is also clearing where courses come available again and you could see then if any appeal to you, this would save a gap year.

I don't think that many universities interview for Physics unless of course you are wanting to apply for Oxbridge. I think your extra curriculars for medicine could be turned around for physics, you could just change your personal statement and say whilst doing this and this you realised your passion lies more in the filed of physics and you have read this and this etc .

Reply 3

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by RMS23
First - well done for going with what you’re genuinely feeling! As someone who chased medicine for a number of years (but changed mind well before UCAS deadline), I know how tough it can be to look at a completely different path.
2 years outside of education may be tough. Remember, when you do apply for physics the universities will look at your education history and see 2 years off. They will want to know exactly what you’ve done to make you a better candidate. Gap years can be useful, but to give yourself a good chance you need to ensure you can fill that time with employment/internships/courses to make you a better candidate.
Have you considered an apprenticeship? I know it’s not necessarily your first thought, but apprenticeships run all year round (with no national deadline), can be in applicable qualifications (ie; degree apprenticeship in Physics/Engineering), and obviously the benefit of 0 debt. I’d suggest you seriously have a look at what’s on offer; as that might be a great alternative to follow your interest, get a degree you’ll enjoy, and not feeling behind.
If not, definitely have a look at internships, a lot of big engineering and science companies offer paid internships, and that could be a great way to get knowledge, some extra cash, and possibly a job offer all in one.
And do still speak to your teachers for their advice, but that’s just some of my ideas above. I wish you the very best of luck for whatever you choose!

Thank you so much for your advice. I looked into apprenticeships and couldn't find many for physics specifically and kind of the same for internships so far. But that's only been a day of researching so I'm not going to give up. I've also found a couple of places that I could do some lab research in so that's looking promising.

Yesterday, it also hit me how long 2 years out of education is and the fact that I wouldn't be able to study what I want to for 2 years. So do you think it would be possible for me to do everything I need to by next January? I did want to apply for Oxbridge and I did already do some PAT study when I wanted to apply in Year 12 and am familiar with the exam but I don't think I'll be able to get many competitions done by then.

I know the British Physics Olympiad runs before the January deadline and the website says, as long as I'm not going into university, I can do it if my school allows so I'm going to ask my teachers. I'm going to try and get some research placements in the summer and read more books which I'm already doing.

I've done Air Cadets for 3 years and we've done some engineering modules, which is when I realised my passion was with Physics and not Engineering so I can talk about that. Or I was thinking I could try get work experience with BAE Systems to show that too, because my friend used to work there so maybe??? But that's up to a lot of chance.

I did actually tutor some younger students in Physics at my old job and volunteering so I can include that maybe. And I've signed up to some online webinars from universities that I'm going to add

I'm also going to try do some experiments outside of the spec in the labs at school with the help of my physics teachers as an extra thing to add and it'll be fun. And my Physics teacher said he could help me find other WEX placements that previous students had done.

And in the summer, I'm going to learn how to use my telescope properly and develop that as a hobby because I got it as a birthday present when I was much younger and didn't know how to use it, and with all this Medicine preparation, it's kind of gotten left by the wayside :frown:

I know this is all going to be really stressful with A Levels as well but this is something I really want and I can deal with one gap year but I don't think I can deal with 2. The real challenge is revising for 4 subjects on top of that. So I'm going to ask my teacher's advice and yours please?

Reply 4

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by Nikki Lou Lou
What was your fifth choice? As Med is only 4 choices? If you decline all offers you get you get UCAS extra and 1 last choice but ofc not guaranteed that the physics course you like is available ........ I would contact the relevant university and ask them if they would consider a UCAS extra choice and explain your situation and then put that university down. There is also clearing where courses come available again and you could see then if any appeal to you, this would save a gap year.
I don't think that many universities interview for Physics unless of course you are wanting to apply for Oxbridge. I think your extra curriculars for medicine could be turned around for physics, you could just change your personal statement and say whilst doing this and this you realised your passion lies more in the filed of physics and you have read this and this etc .

I applied for Biomedical Sciences as my 5th eventhough I didn't want it because I'd didn't think a physics course would accept a Medicine PS at the time. With this would I still be able to use UCAS Extra? Thank you for bringing it up I didn't even know about it so I'll do some research and email the unis I'd like to apply to.

I did think about clearing and asking my teachers but they said that not many of the universities with the higher employability rates will be left during clearing so not to keep any high hopes for it. Because eventhough I love physics and wish I could learn it this academic year, I don't want to sabotage my future over it if I can achieve it in the next.

Reply 5

Original post
by Nikki Lou Lou
What was your fifth choice? As Med is only 4 choices? If you decline all offers you get you get UCAS extra and 1 last choice but ofc not guaranteed that the physics course you like is available ........ I would contact the relevant university and ask them if they would consider a UCAS extra choice and explain your situation and then put that university down. There is also clearing where courses come available again and you could see then if any appeal to you, this would save a gap year.
I don't think that many universities interview for Physics unless of course you are wanting to apply for Oxbridge. I think your extra curriculars for medicine could be turned around for physics, you could just change your personal statement and say whilst doing this and this you realised your passion lies more in the filed of physics and you have read this and this etc .

Yes actually I did do some work experience in hospital and saw Radiology - though it was probably for an hour at most. So I could talk about that and flesh it out with what I now know about the specialty and Medical Physicists. That'd be a good way to not put it to waste.

Reply 6

Also do you think it's a good idea to email universities with programmes targeted at Year 12s asking if they would let me apply for them and explaining my context? I just thought it's worth a shot right? And the worst they can say is no?
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by DedBread
Hi,
I'm currently a Year 13 student and I've just applied for Medicine and got interviews back but I've realised that I really don't want to do Medicine and instead want to do Physics. I chose to do Medicine at first for many personal and familial reasons (I think you can imply the rest) and for the most part of my Med application I've been confused as to whether it's what I really wanted. I do all sciences and maths for A Levels so, in terms of academics I think as long as I get good results this year I will be okay to reapply for Physics.
The only issue is that all my supercurriculars are for Medicine and not Physics - like competitions, work experience etc. I've read and am reading quite a few books on Physics and have done the Chemistry Olympiad and Maths Challenge but didn't do the Physics Olympiad because I needed the time to focus on my Med application when the opportunity for it arose.
So basically I'm worried about what exactly it is that I can put in my personal statement and talk about at interviews - if I apply to universities that require interviews for physics or related courses. And I don't know whether it would be better for me to take 2 gap years rather than 1 - where in the first I'd build up my personal statement and in the second I'd apply.
Honestly, I don't want to take 2 years out of education but I'm perfectly happy taking one. I just wanted to know if anyone's done anything similar because I really don't know anyone who has and, apart from my teachers, I don't know who to ask about it. I also want to know whether I should take 2 or if anyone knows how I can build up my personal statement in the summer. I'm going to look into work experience placements I can do in the summer and read more books but what else can I do? Because I know a lot of competitions open at the beginning of new school years.
Also just general words of advice would be really helpful because as much as I am excited to finally be able to do what I want to do I am incredibly scared.

You absolutely don't need to take two years out for physics. Go to the med interviews, see how you continue feel about it. When you get your A level results, see how you feel and if it's still Physics, look at clearing. Only then, if nothing takes your fancy, take one Gap Year, apply in the Autumn of 25 and start Physics in 26.

Interviews and UCAS forms do not take a year to prepare and submit!
(edited 1 year ago)

Reply 8

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by threeportdrift
You absolutely don't need to take two years out for physics. Go to the med interviews, see how you continue feel about it. When you get your A level results, see how you feel and if it's still Physics, look at clearing. Only then, if nothing takes your fancy, take one Gap Year, apply in the Autumn of 25 and start Physics in 26.
Interviews and UCAS forms do not take a year to prepare and submit!

Will I be able to get enough experiences to write a good enough personal statement by then do you think?
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by DedBread
Will I be able to get enough experiences to write a good enough personal statement by then do you think?

Yes, given you don't need any experience for Physics. You need two weekends to read 3 books! Your grades are what get you in to uni, not the additional opportunities you have been able to access.

Medicine requires work experience because it is a vocational degree, heavily subsidised by the tax-payer. Numbers of students accepted is limited, so unis specifically don't want to take on people who don't know what sort of career they are entering, That doesn't apply to physics, or most other degrees and careers.

Reply 10

Original post
by threeportdrift
Yes, given you don't need any experience for Physics. You need two weekends to read 3 books! Your grades are what get you in to uni, not the additional opportunities you have been able to access.
Medicine requires work experience because it is a vocational degree, heavily subsidised by the tax-payer. Numbers of students accepted is limited, so unis specifically don't want to take on people who don't know what sort of career they are entering, That doesn't apply to physics, or most other degrees and careers.

So do I not need to focus too much on supercurriculars even if I apply to top physics universities? I still want to do some supercurriculars but is it not a be all and end all?
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by DedBread
So do I not need to focus too much on supercurriculars even if I apply to top physics universities? I still want to do some supercurriculars but is it not a be all and end all?

It's absolutely not the be all and end all. Remember, lots of people aren't in a financial or supported position to access these opportunities, so unis are very careful not to give credit to things that aren't accessible to most applicants.

Reply 12

Also, there's something that I'm getting increasingly worried about and it's not something I weighed heavily at all before, but from talking to my parents it's built up in my head. And that's about the pay opportunities of physics compared to medicine. I know medicine blows most jobs in physics out of the water in terms of pay and I don't know whether that might be a reason I could regret going into physics in the future - the instability. I definitely want to do a job where I can feel fulfilled and happy but - as materialistic as it sounds - I want to be quite well off. At least I want to be earning more than my parents, who are both nurses, and that's what they want too. I know there are some jobs in physics that do pay very well but I know they're harder to come by than in medicine.

This whole thing is so intimidating because I'm constantly worrying about whether I'm making the right decision to do something I want to study rather than what is safe.

Reply 13

You could try clearing on results day. A bit hectic to think about but on that day (if you reject all your choices) you could apply for physics through clearing.

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