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Studying Medicine in USA as a British

Is it possible or impossible to study for pre med and then the medicine graduate degree in USA as a British. How tedious is the process and is it possible to get a schorlaship if you are really smart and with lots of extra curriculars.
It’s actually a seamless process. You can apply through an accredited Caribbean medical school pre-med to med. 5.5 years. The last 2 years are in the US on clinical rotations. Doing the 6 core rotation and a bunch of electives. Graduate then apply for a paid residency in the United States my cousin used a free agency called HCMM education and he’s doing rotations in the states now.
Original post by Anonymous
Is it possible or impossible to study for pre med and then the medicine graduate degree in USA as a British. How tedious is the process and is it possible to get a schorlaship if you are really smart and with lots of extra curriculars.

"Pre-med" isn't a degree, it's a set of classes you take during an undergraduate degree.

It's certainly possible to do an undergraduate degree in the US (and take the pre-med classes or otherwise), however you won't get a full scholarship generally unless you fall into one of the following categories:

a) elite athlete in a sport that big time NCAA colleges care about (so Olympic gymnast, very high level basketball/baseball/American football player, etc)
b) apply to need blind colleges that commit to meeting all demonstrated financial need for applicants - this is essentially the most comeptitive "elite" colleges e.g. Harvard, Yale, Princeton, MIT, and similar.

For the latter route being very smart and having lots of high level extracurriculars is just the standard baseline for all applicants.

You'd still then need to figure out how to pay for medical school since there's very, very little funding for international students doing an MD in the US I gather and even those noted in b) above don't routinely offer similar packages at the graduate level for an MD.

Note even if you do all your degrees in the US, that still doesn't mean you'll be able to successfully apply to comeptitive residency programmes as you'll still need to get sponsored for a working visa unless you can get a green card otherwise, and US working visa requirements typically are limiting as they require the employer to prove there are no suitably qualified American applicants for the job they're sponsoring you for.

So you'd still end up no better than if you just did a medical degree in the UK and then applied for a residency programme. Except if you do that, you save a lot of money and it only takes 5-6 years to get the medical degree (potentially plus FY1/2 for 7-8 years - where you'd be getting paid anyway) compared to minimum 8 years in the US (undergraduate degrees are 4 years in the US, and the MD is 4 years).

Original post by Anonymous
It’s actually a seamless process. You can apply through an accredited Caribbean medical school pre-med to med. 5.5 years. The last 2 years are in the US on clinical rotations. Doing the 6 core rotation and a bunch of electives. Graduate then apply for a paid residency in the United States my cousin used a free agency called HCMM education and he’s doing rotations in the states now.


Caribbean medical schools are seen in the US as even worse than how certain European medical schools are in the UK. You'd also still be an IMG which adds its own set of issues, and be paying a ton of money for that. You could just as well do a medical degree in the UK then apply to residencies in the US in that case and it'd cost a lot less money and be faster.
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A degree is considered Pre-Medicine if it encompasses.. A number of prerequisite courses required by most medical schools. For example Biomedical Sciences, Biochemistry are considered Pre-Medicine undergraduate degrees. Scholarships are available based on your degree classification if you go through an accredited Caribbean med school. If you pass USMLE Step I and 2 at the first time of asking you WILL get residency and you will be sponsored by the Hospital for immigration for 3-4 years. These residency’s are paid. If you decide to return to the UK afterward you can take the PLAB which is similar in content to the UKMLE. You will then be licensed to practice in the UK
Original post by artful_lounger
"Pre-med" isn't a degree, it's a set of classes you take during an undergraduate degree.
It's certainly possible to do an undergraduate degree in the US (and take the pre-med classes or otherwise), however you won't get a full scholarship generally unless you fall into one of the following categories:
a) elite athlete in a sport that big time NCAA colleges care about (so Olympic gymnast, very high level basketball/baseball/American football player, etc)
b) apply to need blind colleges that commit to meeting all demonstrated financial need for applicants - this is essentially the most comeptitive "elite" colleges e.g. Harvard, Yale, Princeton, MIT, and similar.
For the latter route being very smart and having lots of high level extracurriculars is just the standard baseline for all applicants.
You'd still then need to figure out how to pay for medical school since there's very, very little funding for international students doing an MD in the US I gather and even those noted in b) above don't routinely offer similar packages at the graduate level for an MD.
Note even if you do all your degrees in the US, that still doesn't mean you'll be able to successfully apply to comeptitive residency programmes as you'll still need to get sponsored for a working visa unless you can get a green card otherwise, and US working visa requirements typically are limiting as they require the employer to prove there are no suitably qualified American applicants for the job they're sponsoring you for.
So you'd still end up no better than if you just did a medical degree in the UK and then applied for a residency programme. Except if you do that, you save a lot of money and it only takes 5-6 years to get the medical degree (potentially plus FY1/2 for 7-8 years - where you'd be getting paid anyway) compared to minimum 8 years in the US (undergraduate degrees are 4 years in the US, and the MD is 4 years).
Caribbean medical schools are seen in the US as even worse than how certain European medical schools are in the UK. You'd also still be an IMG which adds its own set of issues, and be paying a ton of money for that. You could just as well do a medical degree in the UK then apply to residencies in the US in that case and it'd cost a lot less money and be faster.


You cannot do a medical degree in the UK and apply for residency in the US because you will not have completed the board examinations that are USMLE STEP, 1, 2 and 3. You can take them independently however without the guidance of a MBNE curriculum whom are the Authors of the board examinations it is an up hill battle to say the least. Also there is absolutely no issues with IMG’s procuring licensing and residency in the United States nor the UK as long as the institution is accredited and the curriculum recognized by the US department of Education and in the UK , GMC. Just look how many IMG’s work for the NHS ? That stigma is fast dissipating. The fees at the quality Caribbean med schools are competitive with those in the US. But if you would like to pursue medicine and cannot gain admittance to a UK med school, there are few options and Europe is very low on the global totem pole.
Original post by Anonymous
You cannot do a medical degree in the UK and apply for residency in the US because you will not have completed the board examinations that are USMLE STEP, 1, 2 and 3. You can take them independently however without the guidance of a MBNE curriculum whom are the Authors of the board examinations it is an up hill battle to say the least. Also there is absolutely no issues with IMG’s procuring licensing and residency in the United States nor the UK as long as the institution is accredited and the curriculum recognized by the US department of Education and in the UK , GMC. Just look how many IMG’s work for the NHS ? That stigma is fast dissipating. The fees at the quality Caribbean med schools are competitive with those in the US. But if you would like to pursue medicine and cannot gain admittance to a UK med school, there are few options and Europe is very low on the global totem pole.

UK medical graduates can take the USMLEs as they wish.

The US is not the NHS, and the US has completely different visa laws which is the issue for IMGs.
Original post by mcmste1809
A degree is considered Pre-Medicine if it encompasses.. A number of prerequisite courses required by most medical schools. For example Biomedical Sciences, Biochemistry are considered Pre-Medicine undergraduate degrees. Scholarships are available based on your degree classification if you go through an accredited Caribbean med school. If you pass USMLE Step I and 2 at the first time of asking you WILL get residency and you will be sponsored by the Hospital for immigration for 3-4 years. These residency’s are paid. If you decide to return to the UK afterward you can take the PLAB which is similar in content to the UKMLE. You will then be licensed to practice in the UK

That's not at all how the premed curriculum works in the US. The premed classes are a set of classes (modules) students take. They can major in whatever they like provided they take the relevant courses.

Going to a Caribbean medical school does not guarantee residency and claiming otherwise makes it seem fairly clear you are a shill for said Caribbean medical schools.
Original post by artful_lounger
UK medical graduates can take the USMLEs as they wish.
The US is not the NHS, and the US has completely different visa laws which is the issue for IMGs.
That's not at all how the premed curriculum works in the US. The premed classes are a set of classes (modules) students take. They can major in whatever they like provided they take the relevant courses.
Going to a Caribbean medical school does not guarantee residency and claiming otherwise makes it seem fairly clear you are a shill for said Caribbean medical schools.


Let’s agree to disagree!
Original post by mcmste1809
Let’s agree to disagree!


It's not even clear what you're proposing to disagree on.
That you have no understanding of a Pre-Med curriculum in the US and a stereotypical view of IMG’s and Caribbean Med Schools
Original post by mcmste1809
That you have no understanding of a Pre-Med curriculum in the US and a stereotypical view of IMG’s and Caribbean Med Schools


You've conflated myself and artful_lounger.
I apologize
Original post by mcmste1809
I apologize


Not a problem to me, but thank you.

I generally find that rather than saying that someone has "no understanding" of a topic, it's more polite and helpful to explain what the misunderstanding is, rather than playing the "agree to disagree" card, (which suggests a difference of opinion).
Such a negative view point of IMG’s that supply the United States with 25% and 50% of the workforce in the UK is misguided. That is why I agreed to disagree.

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