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The Demise of Man United in 2024

I don't think the players they have a terrible. It isn't the Glazers l blame, or the manager, or (Sir) Jim Radcliffe, but the greediness of the players. It is a disease that has spread into the squads that United have built since SAF left. Players are no longer trying their best, and are only applying themselves with token efforts, so long as they get their millions, and have enough to keep them going until they reach old age.

The big change that must happen now is the way in which the players are paid. On top of a basic salary, players need to be put on performance related contracts, with large bonuses paid if the team reaches certain milestones, like qualifying for the champions league, or winning the Premiership etc.

Under the current pay structure, players get a high wage, ranging from £5 - £18 million a year. Their pay is reduced by 25% if they don't qualify for the Champions League. This needs to change. No player should earn more than £10 million a year. The bonuses should be large as an incentive, and failure to qualify for the champions league should see a 40-50% drop in player wages for those earning more than £5 million per season.

Reply 1

The owners (Glazers and Ratcliffe) are 100% to blame. The players don't decide their salary, they say what their demands are and then Man Utd have been offering crazy salaries. The owners are poor and keep making short term decisions and they wonder why the club can't be built back up. Players are doing their job, just not very well. Ultimately that is the manager's responsibility and then it is for the club to put the right structure in place behind the scenes.

Reply 2

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by Zerforax
The owners (Glazers and Ratcliffe) are 100% to blame. The players don't decide their salary, they say what their demands are and then Man Utd have been offering crazy salaries. The owners are poor and keep making short term decisions and they wonder why the club can't be built back up. Players are doing their job, just not very well. Ultimately that is the manager's responsibility and then it is for the club to put the right structure in place behind the scenes.

What a bunch of crap. The blame fully lies at the players, who are performing well below their true potential on the pitch.

Reply 3

You haven't thought this through. If players at Man Utd are offered contracts that are punitive, players that Man Utd want to attract will simply go to clubs that offer them more favourable contracts.

Reply 4

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by Gazpacho.
You haven't thought this through. If players at Man Utd are offered contracts that are punitive, players that Man Utd want to attract will simply go to clubs that offer them more favourable contracts.

So be it. If they carry on with offering crazy salaries to greedy players they will continue to struggle in the league. A change is needed.

LOL at you haven't thought this through.
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Reply 5

You exonerate the Glazers who bought the club essentially with it's own money to gut it then say it's the players fault there is a culture of greed.

Reply 6

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by StriderHort
You exonerate the Glazers who bought the club essentially with it's own money to gut it then say it's the players fault there is a culture of greed.

The Glazers gave more money on transfers than any club in transfer history. There needs to be a move away from players like Rashford asking for £325k per week, only to offer next to nothing in return. If you think paying crazy wages to greedy players is the way forward then you can't be too intelligent.

Reply 7

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by Physician
The Glazers gave more money on transfers than any club in transfer history. There needs to be a move away from players like Rashford asking for £325k per week, only to offer next to nothing in return. If you think paying crazy wages to greedy players is the way forward then you can't be too intelligent.

You're trying to put words in my mouth and it's not subtle. I simply argue that you can't have greed at the top steering the ship and be surprised at greed at the bottom.

What do you mean the Glazers 'gave' money? they put the club massively in debt & dodgy interest then clawed out huge dividends for themselves. What sort of example are the players supposed to be following?

Reply 8

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by Physician
I don't think the players they have a terrible. It isn't the Glazers l blame, or the manager, or (Sir) Jim Radcliffe, but the greediness of the players. It is a disease that has spread into the squads that United have built since SAF left. Players are no longer trying their best, and are only applying themselves with token efforts, so long as they get their millions, and have enough to keep them going until they reach old age.
The big change that must happen now is the way in which the players are paid. On top of a basic salary, players need to be put on performance related contracts, with large bonuses paid if the team reaches certain milestones, like qualifying for the champions league, or winning the Premiership etc.
Under the current pay structure, players get a high wage, ranging from £5 - £18 million a year. Their pay is reduced by 25% if they don't qualify for the Champions League. This needs to change. No player should earn more than £10 million a year. The bonuses should be large as an incentive, and failure to qualify for the champions league should see a 40-50% drop in player wages for those earning more than £5 million per season.

Yes.

Liverpool pay their players a fraction what Man U pay.

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