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UCL geography and economics/economics

I’m in y12 my A levels are Geography, Maths, business studies, Spanish

I’m probably going to get predicted on A*,A*,A,A*

Do I have a chance of getting into(or how can I improve them):
ucl geography and economics or economics
Oxford economics and management
Kings economics

my school doesn’t offer economics as A level

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Original post
by Kuba.
I’m in y12 my A levels are Geography, Maths, business studies, Spanish

I’m probably going to get predicted on A*,A*,A,A*

Do I have a chance of getting into(or how can I improve them):
ucl geography and economics or economics
Oxford economics and management
Kings economics

my school doesn’t offer economics as A level

See the universities websites for specific entry requirements
UCL Geography and Economics
UCL Economics
Oxford Economics and Management
KCL Economics
From what I have seen your A-levels should mean that you have a chance so long as you write a good personal statement, keep your grades up and perform well in interview.

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You don't need Economics at A-level to read Economics but Further Maths is highly desirable (and probably necessary if you aren't doing Economics)
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by AngelikaK
You don't need Economics at A-level to read Economics but Further Maths is highly desirable (and probably necessary if you aren't doing Economics)

None of the universities mention Further Maths being highly desirable.
Could you please link to anywhere where one of these unis has highlighted further maths? :smile:

Reply 4

Universities aren't in the business of making applications look more competitive than they are.
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by AngelikaK
Universities aren't in the business of making applications look more competitive than they are.

I agree, did you find a link to where a uni mentioned above has stated a position about further maths? :smile:

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by 04MR17
I agree, did you find a link to where a uni mentioned above has stated a position about further maths? :smile:

They don't do that for obvious reasons. Universities are in the business of encouraging as many applications as possible. There is a big disconnect between what they say and what they do in admissions. Please believe me when I say that you mustn't take selective universities' very generous minimum admissions requirements as a guideline to what really happens.
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by AngelikaK
They don't do that for obvious reasons. Universities are in the business of encouraging as many applications as possible. There is a big disconnect between what they say and what they do in admissions. Please believe me when I say that you mustn't take selective universities' very generous minimum admissions requirements as a guideline to what really happens.

But these universities do offer places for applicants that don't have further maths, don't they? :smile:

Can I ask where these insights have come from then? Could you give a bit of background about your experience? It helps when I give advice to others if I know, for example, that this comes from someone who has worked in university admissions.

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by 04MR17
But these universities do offer places for applicants that don't have further maths, don't they? :smile:
Can I ask where these insights have come from then? Could you give a bit of background about your experience? It helps when I give advice to others if I know, for example, that this comes from someone who has worked in university admissions.
One of my parents is an international admissions consultant
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by AngelikaK
One of my parents is an international admissions consultant

And they told you this about attitudes of 3 universities economics courses' attitudes towards further maths?

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by 04MR17
And they told you this about attitudes of 3 universities economics courses' attitudes towards further maths?

It's not an attitude, it's just facts. Economics is a very popular degree and exceedingly competitive and it is the business of guidance counsellors to collect data about what makes a student profile competitive
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by AngelikaK
It's not an attitude, it's just facts. Economics is a very popular degree and exceedingly competitive and it is the business of guidance counsellors to collect data about what makes a student profile competitive

Could you answer the question then?

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Original post
by 04MR17
Could you answer the question then?

What question did I not answer?
Original post
by AngelikaK
What question did I not answer?

Was it your parent who told you about the attitudes of 3 universities economics courses' attitudes towards further maths?

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Original post
by 04MR17
Was it your parent who told you about the attitudes of 3 universities economics courses' attitudes towards further maths?

It's part of their work and I also sometimes do some interning so have full access to all the collated FOI requests and historical data on clients
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by AngelikaK
It's part of their work and I also sometimes do some interning so have full access to all the collated FOI requests and historical data on clients

That sounds like a very polite way of saying no?
Original post
by Kuba.
I’m in y12 my A levels are Geography, Maths, business studies, Spanish

I’m probably going to get predicted on A*,A*,A,A*

Do I have a chance of getting into(or how can I improve them):
ucl geography and economics or economics
Oxford economics and management
Kings economics

my school doesn’t offer economics as A level

Hiya, some advice from me:
1) You don't need A Level economics, we all agree on that.

2) None of the universities advertise a requirement or even a desire for applicants to have Further Maths. Therefore, it isn't necessary. However, there will probably be a strong correlation between offers and further maths applicants. Only because for some of these courses you need an A* in mathematics. Applicants who are on track for an A* in mathematics often also study further maths. Correlation does not equal causation. That said, doing further maths would probably help you do better on an economics degree course, due to the type of maths you'll need within economics. So the big question is: does your school offer further maths? That would guide the rest of my advice to you.

3) I would take 3 A Levels into Y13, not four. See if you can drop one or take it as an AS instead. Ideally dropping Spanish or Geography. Not because you won't do well, but because unis would prefer 3 A*s to 4 As. It's quality over quantity. This could make room also for F.Maths if your school are able to offer this to you, even if only up to AS.

4) Finally, I would make your fourth and fifth choices some universities with slightly lower entry requirements. I always recommend having a range of grade requirements to give you some options as Y13 goes on.

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by 04MR17
That sounds like a very polite way of saying no?

Not at all - it's been the discussion in my family all my life. One of the reasons that universities don't make FM a requirement is that some schools don't offer FM and it would therefore be discriminatory to make it a requirement. However, if your school does offer FM, most selective universities would expect you to take it if you want to study Economics.
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by AngelikaK
Not at all - it's been the discussion in my family all my life. One of the reasons that universities don't make FM a requirement is that some schools don't offer FM and it would therefore be discriminatory to make it a requirement. However, if your school does offer FM, most selective universities would expect you to take it if you want to study Economics.

I understand what you are repeating, I'm just trying to establish the evidence behind it. I've never known a family that have been discussing the entry requirements for UCL economics all their lives.

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by 04MR17
I understand what you are repeating, I'm just trying to establish the evidence behind it. I've never known a family that have been discussing the entry requirements for UCL economics all their lives.

People discuss their work with their families, especially when they are entrepreneurs and business owners.

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