Parents of children who are not potty-trained told to come into school to change napp

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A council in Wales has said that from the start of the new term, parents of children who are not potty trained are told to come into school and change nappies themselves.
The only exception to this will be if there is a medical reason why.
What are your thoughts?

Parents of children who are not potty-trained told to come into school to change nappies themselves | Daily Mail Online

Reply 1

Tracey_W

Original post

by Emma:-)

A council in Wales has said that from the start of the new term, parents of children who are not potty trained are told to come into school and change nappies themselves.
The only exception to this will be if there is a medical reason why.
What are your thoughts?
Parents of children who are not potty-trained told to come into school to change nappies themselves | Daily Mail Online

This would affect those who were working because they would have to get time off from there employer which I don't think would be given unless medical emergency.
Just wondering how they will get away with something like this if they are paying for the children nursery fees....??

There's a secondary school in Edinburgh that has a crèche area for girls who were underage and had babies, they attend school as normal but they leave the babies with staff whilst they are in class but they have to go and change them and if necessary feed them as well ( it's in one of the worst deprived areas of the city and have a high teenage population with babies), they been trying to decrease this problem with young teenage girls over the years), I only know about that because I have treated quite a few of them when I was a student and qualified midwife before I went back to my own city to work.

Reply 2

Emma:-)

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by Tracey_W

This would affect those who were working because they would have to get time off from there employer which I don't think would be given unless medical emergency.
Just wondering how they will get away with something like this if they are paying for the children nursery fees....??
There's a secondary school in Edinburgh that has a crèche area for girls who were underage and had babies, they attend school as normal but they leave the babies with staff whilst they are in class but they have to go and change them and if necessary feed them as well ( it's in one of the worst deprived areas of the city and have a high teenage population with babies), they been trying to decrease this problem with young teenage girls over the years), I only know about that because I have treated quite a few of them when I was a student and qualified midwife before I went back to my own city to work.

This is talking about schools, not nurseries. I.e. children from aged 4-5 upwards. The argument is that children of school age should have been potty trained (unless there is a medical condition/special need). Teachers should not have to do this as it takes time away from them teaching.
With nurseries the staff change the nappies obviously.

Reply 3

StriderHort

Yeah I think expecting school teachers to be changing nappies aa a regular duty is a bit much.

I'm not a preschool expert but if a parent is sending a kid to school in nappies they should already know issues and attention will be likely.

Reply 4

nonchalant-

Original post

by Tracey_W

This would affect those who were working because they would have to get time off from there employer which I don't think would be given unless medical emergency.
Just wondering how they will get away with something like this if they are paying for the children nursery fees....??
There's a secondary school in Edinburgh that has a crèche area for girls who were underage and had babies, they attend school as normal but they leave the babies with staff whilst they are in class but they have to go and change them and if necessary feed them as well ( it's in one of the worst deprived areas of the city and have a high teenage population with babies), they been trying to decrease this problem with young teenage girls over the years), I only know about that because I have treated quite a few of them when I was a student and qualified midwife before I went back to my own city to work.

Where im from you can't even put your kids in pre school if they aren't potty trained, and out of diapers yet.

Maybe these parents will feel more pressure to train their own kids now. Which they should be doing as parents.

Reply 5

Tracey_W

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by Emma:-)

I agree with the family children should be able to go to the toilet by a certain age as long as they are trained by there parents, you do get some who takes the easy route with sticking on a nappy rather than spending time getting the children to go to the toilet on the potty.

Exemptions I agree with like you said about medical conditions etc.

I thought it was all the age groups up to 4- 5 years old it was about but yeah they should be going to the toilet themselves by the time they starting school.

Reply 6

Foxehh

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by nonchalant-

Where im from you can't even put your kids in pre school if they aren't potty trained, and out of diapers yet.
Maybe these parents will feel more pressure to train their own kids now. Which they should be doing as parents.

I was going to say, since when is this an issue? I've literally never heard of 4-5 year old not being potty trained for the daytime, much less an expectation that an educator would change them. Thats absurd.

Reply 7

Talkative Toad

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by Foxehh

Maybe from a UK point of view in might be an issue (I often find that some parents here like to blame the state, companies, their own children etc for their child's issues rather than taking some level of responsibility as a parent).

But I agree with you.

Reply 8

SMEGGGY

I agree let it be rolled out in the UK. Unbelievable that they aren't trained to poo n pee in toilet!

Reply 9

Gazpacho.

Judging by the state of public toilets, many adults are not potty trained.

Reply 10

Muttly

Original post

by Emma:-)

A council in Wales has said that from the start of the new term, parents of children who are not potty trained are told to come into school and change nappies themselves.
The only exception to this will be if there is a medical reason why.
What are your thoughts?
Parents of children who are not potty-trained told to come into school to change nappies themselves | Daily Mail Online

I happen to agree with this, and I do know it is a common occurrence. It is also child neglect. Barring any genuine medical issues for the child the same incapable parents who have abdicated all parenting skills (for whatever reason) are hardly likely to put the effort in to come to school to 'deal' with their child. How do you then enforce this? Send the child home?

Maybe court directed 'Big Brother' style housing for parents and children to live together with tuition, structure and parenting skills would be a better option? The same kids probably can't converse without shouting, are violent toward staff and don't know the letters of the alphabet when they start school.