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Am I the only person who finds the current spat between Elon Musk and Kier Starmer really quite disturbing.

Firstly, Elon Musk is not a UK citizen and I don't understand why our government are having to make press releases and defend themselves against essentially a private American citizen.

Secondly, I find the fact they have chosen the rape scandals that happened several years ago and which the previous Tory government did pretty much nothing about as the weapon to beat Labour a bit bizarre. They seem less interested in the victims and I wonder if the true reason for the anger is because it centres on Asian men attacking white girls. I do wonder had the races been reversed if this would be a complete non-issue.

Thoughts?

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Reply 1

Original post
by hotpud
Am I the only person who finds the current spat between Elon Musk and Kier Starmer really quite disturbing.
Firstly, Elon Musk is not a UK citizen and I don't understand why our government are having to make press releases and defend themselves against essentially a private American citizen.
Secondly, I find the fact they have chosen the rape scandals that happened several years ago and which the previous Tory government did pretty much nothing about as the weapon to beat Labour a bit bizarre. They seem less interested in the victims and I wonder if the true reason for the anger is because it centres on Asian men attacking white girls. I do wonder had the races been reversed if this would be a complete non-issue.
Thoughts?

Seems to be more about musk trolling for yaxley lennon / manufacturing an argument with the uk. Id guess the issue is fairly irrelevant to musk.

Reply 2

I agree it's a bit off putting, One of the clearest examples that the super rich really can do what they want, and that can include just maliciously ****ing things up for others knowing people can't really stop them. We'll even simp and help them. The whole narrative that our government and others is illegitimate and should be upended with Jan 6th style events is troubling, party due to the impressionable people who will whoops and cheer along, not even thinking about what it means for their own lives.

Reply 3

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by StriderHort
I agree it's a bit off putting, One of the clearest examples that the super rich really can do what they want, and that can include just maliciously ****ing things up for others knowing people can't really stop them. We'll even simp and help them. The whole narrative that our government and others is illegitimate and should be upended with Jan 6th style events is troubling, party due to the impressionable people who will whoops and cheer along, not even thinking about what it means for their own lives.

Personally, with all the greenland, canada, mexico (trump) stuff and germany and uk (musk), it seems a bit more than just musk doing what he wants. Seems a bit more organised.

Reply 4

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by mqb2766
Personally, with all the greenland, canada, mexico (trump) stuff and germany and uk (musk), it seems a bit more than just musk doing what he wants. Seems a bit more organised.

I see no reason it can't be both, I doubt he is literally doing it for a quick giggle but at the same time he's certainly being pretty childish with his influence.

Reply 5

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by StriderHort
I see no reason it can't be both, I doubt he is literally doing it for a quick giggle but at the same time he's certainly being pretty childish with his influence.

A bit like trump playing the fool/demagogue for his supporters, Id guess musk is explicitly interfereing for some reason and having a laugh/childish while doing it. Trump has made a career out of using bad publicity and musk is hardly a stranger to it. Musks hosting the afd interview today and the jones funded film for yaxley lennon and ....
https://www.politico.eu/article/elon-musk-germany-far-right-afd-x-party-donald-trump-eu/

Apart from making clear his support for yaxley lennon (like in the summer/riots), I doubt his comments about the uk have anything to do with child protection.
Musk has a habit of retweeting racially-tinged stories without much research or understanding so it is not much surprise that this is another thing he wants to stick his oar into.

Charitably, he is frequently on drugs at odd hours and is pretty thick by all accounts.

Less charitably, he’s racist.

Reply 7

I’m just bemused that a man with his purported work ethic and several kids manages to find the time to write angry tweets with a greater frequency than an unemployed vaccine conspiracy theorist.
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by Gazpacho.
I’m just bemused that a man with his purported work ethic and several kids manages to find the time to write angry tweets with a greater frequency than an unemployed vaccine conspiracy theorist.


Thinking about it, other than buying into emerging industries and the whole "move fast, break stuff" schtick, I've never heard anyone comment positively about his work ethic. He's just vaguely involved in a lot of stuff.

Reply 9

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by Gazpacho.
I’m just bemused that a man with his purported work ethic and several kids manages to find the time to write angry tweets with a greater frequency than an unemployed vaccine conspiracy theorist.

A few recent reports about musk/x
https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/elon-musk-trump-misinformation-x-twitter-social-media-b2628245.html
https://www.vox.com/technology/383336/trump-election-elon-musk-misinformation
https://reutersinstitute.politics.ox.ac.uk/news/these-reporters-wrote-book-musks-twitter-takeover-heres-what-they-think-next-journalism-and-x
and Id guess that x is much less celebrity/... community and now (biased right) politics. After the us election ended, his meddling kids have to have something (propaganda/create the news) to do / interfere in politics of other countries.

Reply 10

Genuinely sick to death of hearing about Musk.

Reply 11

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by hotpud
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Firstly, Elon Musk is not a UK citizen and I don't understand why our government are having to make press releases and defend themselves against essentially a private American citizen.


If it were a British citizen then the state would abuse it's powers to shut them up or order internet companies to do it for them or send thugs out to harm them.
Even thestudentroom is complicit in this form of censorship.

Reply 12

Yes, the TSR thugs are always at my door trying to stop me discouraging people from taking foundation years and grad entry med.

I WILL NOT BE SILENCED

Reply 13

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by Admit-One
Yes, the TSR thugs are always at my door trying to stop me discouraging people from taking foundation years and grad entry med.
I WILL NOT BE SILENCED

Can you keep it down a bit pls? Too early in the morning for caps lock.

For the op, I guess musk is really playing the role of kingmaker. Job done in the us, now meddle in a few other countries, hence last nights afd interview
https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2025/jan/09/elon-musk-lying-like-hell-afd-interview-thierry-breton-eu
and the focus on yaxley lennon/farage/reform and trying to oust labour.

Reply 14

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by Admit-One
Thinking about it, other than buying into emerging industries and the whole "move fast, break stuff" schtick, I've never heard anyone comment positively about his work ethic. He's just vaguely involved in a lot of stuff.

It is not other people praising his work ethic, it is Musk himself. He has boasted about his alleged excessive work hours in the past. I am of course not convinced in the slightest.

Reply 15

Original post
by Admit-One
Thinking about it, other than buying into emerging industries and the whole "move fast, break stuff" schtick, I've never heard anyone comment positively about his work ethic. He's just vaguely involved in a lot of stuff.

He boasted about working 80-100 hours a week and how that supposedly puts him ahead of a 40hrs work week. I had a relatively neutral impression of him until about the Tham Luang cave rescue incident. He proposed a simple but impractical solution to a very complex problem which to me shows his eagerness to be involved but also a lack of understanding of the problem's intricacies.
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Reply 16

Original post
by Admit-One
Yes, the TSR thugs are always at my door trying to stop me discouraging people from taking foundation years and grad entry med.
I WILL NOT BE SILENCED

You've obviously become hysterical with fear that you've ignored the first part of my message.

Reply 17

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by Jedi BB-8
He boasted about working 80-100 hours a week and how that supposedly puts him ahead of a 40hrs work week. I had a relatively neutral impression of him until about the Tham Luang cave rescue incident. He proposed a simple but impractical solution to a very complex problem which to me shows his eagerness to be involved but also a lack of understanding of the problem's intricacies.

Speaking of that.
Was there ever a full video of the path to trapped kids released. It was strange there was so much coverage of it but we didn't see the full cave route.

Reply 18

Pies take on the spat.
Warning a little very sweary

Reply 19

Original post
by Jedi BB-8
He boasted about working 80-100 hours a week and how that supposedly puts him ahead of a 40hrs work week. I had a relatively neutral impression of him until about the Tham Luang cave rescue incident. He proposed a simple but impractical solution to a very complex problem which to me shows his eagerness to be involved but also a lack of understanding of the problem's intricacies.

.. and after he got knocked back he started calling other more experienced rescuers paedophiles which seems his go to insult.


I also think he considers posting on twitter as work.

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