Uni of Glasgow Common Law

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Hi, I received an offer from Glasgow common law today, however, the condition was "AAA plus English and satisfactory completion of the LNAT". I'm just confused because I've already completed the LNAT and sent it to Glasgow, and their website states that I couldn't have received an offer without taking it in the first place as they consider it before offering a place. Does it mean the offer is based on me already having received a satisfactory LNAT? Or can they still revoke it after the equal consideration deadline closes?

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DataVenia

Volunteer Team, Clearing and Applications Advisor

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by zarah11

Hi, I received an offer from Glasgow common law today, however, the condition was "AAA plus English and satisfactory completion of the LNAT". I'm just confused because I've already completed the LNAT and sent it to Glasgow, and their website states that I couldn't have received an offer without taking it in the first place as they consider it before offering a place. Does it mean the offer is based on me already having received a satisfactory LNAT? Or can they still revoke it after the equal consideration deadline closes?

The key word in your offer is "satisfactory". You have completed the LNAT, but Glasgow have yet to decide the minimum LNAT score required. LNAT scores which reach that minimum (when they decide what that is) are "satisfactory"; LNAT scores which don't, aren't.

Although Glasgow don't formally say when they'll decide what the minimum LNAT score required is, it's likely to be shortly after the equal consideration deadline - when then can see the LNAT scores of all "on-time" applicants. At that time, assuming you have met the minimum standard they've decided upon, then your UCAS offer will update and the "and satisfactory completion of the LNAT" condition will vanish (as you'll have met that condition).

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zarah11

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by DataVenia

The key word in your offer is "satisfactory". You have completed the LNAT, but Glasgow have yet to decide the minimum LNAT score required. LNAT scores which reach that minimum (when they decide what that is) are "satisfactory"; LNAT scores which don't, aren't.
Although Glasgow don't formally say when they'll decide what the minimum LNAT score required is, it's likely to be shortly after the equal consideration deadline - when then can see the LNAT scores of all "on-time" applicants. At that time, assuming you have met the minimum standard they've decided upon, then your UCAS offer will update and the "and satisfactory completion of the LNAT" condition will vanish (as you'll have met that condition).

thank you! although that's really weird, why would they make me an offer if they haven't decided on the minimum lnat score yet and might revoke it? undergrad admissions are strange. thank you though

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DataVenia

Volunteer Team, Clearing and Applications Advisor

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by zarah11

thank you! although that's really weird, why would they make me an offer if they haven't decided on the minimum lnat score yet and might revoke it? undergrad admissions are strange. thank you though

Agreed. It would make much more sense to simply not make any offers until after the equal consideration deadline. At that point they could then see how many applicants they have, what their LNAT scores are, and set an appropriate minimum score. Everyone who received an offer would then know that they've already met the LNAT threshold, so it wouldn't even appear as a condition of their offer. But... that's not the way they've opted to do it for some reason.

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Anonymous #1

exactly! i received a response from them about 4 days after submitting my application, and I'd have definitely rather waited than get a place-holder offer that I can accept without knowing if it'll even be valid for very long. Do you know if people who get this condition usually face rejection at the end of the period? or is it something on everyone's offer? because i know some people get rejected directly, but i haven't come across anyone with an offer without this condition yet

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University of Glasgow

Official Rep

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Hi all,

Congratulations on your offer to come study here at UofG 😀

To maintain fairness across applicants, we will not decide our LNAT threshold until after the UCAS deadline of January 29th 6pm (UK time). After this, the satisfactory LNAT score will be decided for all applicants.

So there is nothing to worry about at this stage, both offers you have given are completely normal.

If there's anything else we can help with, please do let us know 😃

Thanks,

Niall
International Officer (Europe)

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DataVenia

Volunteer Team, Clearing and Applications Advisor

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by University of Glasgow

Hi all,

Congratulations on your offer to come study here at UofG 😀

To maintain fairness across applicants, we will not decide our LNAT threshold until after the UCAS deadline of January 29th 6pm (UK time). After this, the satisfactory LNAT score will be decided for all applicants.

So there is nothing to worry about at this stage, both offers you have given are completely normal.

If there's anything else we can help with, please do let us know 😃

Thanks,

Niall
International Officer (Europe)

Thank you very much for the clarification Niall. I have two questions.

1. If a candidate receives an offer which includes the "and satisfactory completion of the LNAT" condition, and you ultimately set the LNAT threshold above that which this particular candidate has achieved, what (if anything) happens to their offer? In this scenario, they've failed to meet a condition of the offer, but may not actually be aware of that fact. Or do you email all such candidates to let them know that their LNAT score was below the "satisfactory" threshold?

2. An alternative approach would be to not make any offers until after the LNAT threshold has been set. That way, you'd avoid the confusion caused by the "and satisfactory completion of the LNAT" condition. Do you know the reason the university has opted to take the approach that it has, rather than simply waiting until the threshold has been set?

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University of Glasgow

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by DataVenia

Thank you very much for the clarification Niall. I have two questions.
1. If a candidate receives an offer which includes the "and satisfactory completion of the LNAT" condition, and you ultimately set the LNAT threshold above that which this particular candidate has achieved, what (if anything) happens to their offer? In this scenario, they've failed to meet a condition of the offer, but may not actually be aware of that fact. Or do you email all such candidates to let them know that their LNAT score was below the "satisfactory" threshold?
2. An alternative approach would be to not make any offers until after the LNAT threshold has been set. That way, you'd avoid the confusion caused by the "and satisfactory completion of the LNAT" condition. Do you know the reason the university has opted to take the approach that it has, rather than simply waiting until the threshold has been set?

Hi there,

Of course. Concerning your questions:

1.

All applicants would be notified why their application was rejected, so students would know if the LNAT was the reason.

2.

Most applicants to our Law programme (Like those on this thread) will also be waiting on exam results this year to confirm their place. As a result, we feel confident in providing students with conditional offers (Grades+LNAT). The key thing for students to remember is that when we provide conditional offers, it is because we are confident they can progress on to our programme. They have shown us in their application that they're in a strong position to achieve the conditions we will set.

I hope this has helped clear up 😀

Thanks,

Niall
International Officer (Europe)

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belle347

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by University of Glasgow

Hi there,
Of course. Concerning your questions:

1.

All applicants would be notified why their application was rejected, so students would know if the LNAT was the reason.

2.

Most applicants to our Law programme (Like those on this thread) will also be waiting on exam results this year to confirm their place. As a result, we feel confident in providing students with conditional offers (Grades+LNAT). The key thing for students to remember is that when we provide conditional offers, it is because we are confident they can progress on to our programme. They have shown us in their application that they're in a strong position to achieve the conditions we will set.

I hope this has helped clear up 😀
Thanks,
Niall
International Officer (Europe)

Hi Niall,

Is it common for rejections to occur after the threshold has been made? because you mention how the admissions team feels confident in giving out conditional offers, so does that mean those students are likely to be above or at the threshold?

Also, the LNAT is taken into consideration when giving out the conditional offers correct? So therefore students with good LNAT scores are likely to be given conditional offers, or is it not taken into consideration and that is why there is a threshold cutoff?Thank you,

Reply 9

belle347

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Hi,
So if the admissions team gave us an accpetance while still including the satisfactory lnat requirement, then surely our lnat scores would have been high enough to recieve an offer in the first place correct?

Reply 10

Stiffy Byng

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by University of Glasgow

Hi there,
Of course. Concerning your questions:

1.

All applicants would be notified why their application was rejected, so students would know if the LNAT was the reason.

2.

Most applicants to our Law programme (Like those on this thread) will also be waiting on exam results this year to confirm their place. As a result, we feel confident in providing students with conditional offers (Grades+LNAT). The key thing for students to remember is that when we provide conditional offers, it is because we are confident they can progress on to our programme. They have shown us in their application that they're in a strong position to achieve the conditions we will set.

I hope this has helped clear up 😀
Thanks,
Niall
International Officer (Europe)

Your statement is nonsense. Your university makes offers conditional upon achieving an LNAT score which is not stated in the offer and is, according to you, not determined until after the offer is made. The university cannot be confident that all offer holders will proceed to the university. The university itself can choose to make such progress impossible by setting the acceptable LNAT score above the score which the offer holder has already obtained.

Compare a condition such as "obtain grades xyz". The offer holder knows what the condition is and can aim to satisfy the condition. The offer holder is not presented with an invisible objective, which he or she can do nothing to achieve.

Your university's system confuses applicants, and may raise hopes which are later dashed. Why make an already stressful process more stressful?

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