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Do you think this is as likely with the current guidelines due to under18 anti depressant scare stories. Docs are having to be very careful ever since
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Do you think this is as likely with the current guidelines due to under18 anti depressant scare stories. Docs are having to be very careful ever since

They can still be prescribed them as a contingency. I've seen it while i've been at medical school, and that was after the NICE (National Institute for Clinical Excellence) released the guidelines. In situations where there is a 6 month waiting list for anything else, sometimes GPs feel they have no other choice.

Seroxate which i was on at 16 has no been banned in use for under 18's. But there are still others which can be prescribed.
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Interesting. It's one of these things where unless you learn it at medical school, it's hard to know anyone else's story but your own. Which I think is a definate negative.
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Interesting. It's one of these things where unless you learn it at medical school, it's hard to know anyone else's story but your own. Which I think is a definate negative.

Very much so. Being on antidepresants has opened my eyes to the way in which people which mental health problems are treated. And i have a much better understanding of how the patients are feeling. But i can't suffer everything in order to be a better medical student! I may have thought the same as you if i hadn't had the experience of learning otherwise although i also guess that the cynic in me would have known better.
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I only have to go on what I read and what my psychiatrist says. I know I'm lucky to have been treated professionally but I still don't think that they are handed out like sweeties to children.
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What type?
There are tircyclic. MAOIs etc...
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What type?
There are tircyclic. MAOIs etc...
They are very rarely prescribed anymore because of side effects and the risk if taken in overdose. SSRI's are mostly used now.
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my friend got put on prozac without having ever had counselling or any other treatment before. I'm not sure whether was still 17 or just turned 18. she has got better and has now come of them (didn't do it gradually like she should have and without consulting her GP, she just stopped taking them), she says coming off them was the hardest thing she's ever done, but she does seem a lot better now

this friend was seriously self-harming, tried to OD about 3 times (using her prozac), before she self-harmed she had serious eating dicorders and was about 6 stone, she went to the doctors, but she'd just come back from holiday so had put on a teeny bit of weight... so the dr wouldn't refer her because she was 'too light'.... needless to say my friend returned 3 weeks later light enough to be referred :rolleyes:

lou xxx
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(Original post by Sarky)
They are very rarely prescribed anymore because of side effects and the risk if taken in overdose. SSRI's are mostly used now.
MAOI (Monoamine Oxidase Inhibitors) can be very dangerous if taken with certain foods. In psych hospitals they still have an MAOI menu, so someone must be prescribing them.

I was on Fluvoxamine (I began taking it when I participated in a study which was attempting to ascertain whether ADs had any affect on eating disorders). I am now on Effexor (one of the SSRI's (Selective Seretonin Re-uptake Inhibitors) that are causing so much controversy.)

No, they don't transform you into a 'shiny happy person'. They lift your mood up to what can be considered a 'normal' level. (i.e: for me - not catatonic).
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They are very rarely prescribed anymore because of side effects and the risk if taken in overdose. SSRI's are mostly used now.
Mr Rang and Dale is 5years old, must ask them for a new one...
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(Original post by lou p lou)
my friend got put on prozac without having ever had counselling or any other treatment before. I'm not sure whether was still 17 or just turned 18. she has got better and has now come of them (didn't do it gradually like she should have and without consulting her GP, she just stopped taking them), she says coming off them was the hardest thing she's ever done, but she does seem a lot better now

this friend was seriously self-harming, tried to OD about 3 times (using her prozac), before she self-harmed she had serious eating dicorders and was about 6 stone, she went to the doctors, but she'd just come back from holiday so had put on a teeny bit of weight... so the dr wouldn't refer her because she was 'too light'.... needless to say my friend returned 3 weeks later light enough to be referred :rolleyes:

lou xxx
Sheesh, I guess this doctor was unfamiliar with the expression 'an ounce of prevention is better than a pound of cure'.

Sadly, that is an all too common scenario.
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I´ve been on antidepressants for 2,5 years now. The first one (Seroxat) wasn´t that effective, I took it for a year and then transferred to Zoloft which I have been taking since (150mg a day). The pills don´t give you a "high" or anything, they just make me feel more normal (happier and less anxious and they help my obsessive-compulsive disorder). I also have medication for my insomnia and have been seeing a marvellous psychiatrist once a week for 1,5 years and it´s all helping. I finally think I´ll have a future.
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I disagree with anyone who says they dont get to the root of the problem. Depression, in most cases, is caused by chemical inbalances in the brain-mine is completely messed up. Hence the first step to recovery is by getting more of the chemicals u lack....ie. taking medication. I had a cognative therapist and it didnt help at all.
I took prozac for ages and it had no effect. i am now on citalopram 40mg and that has helped to some extent. my psychiatrist is deciding what is the best one for me to try next.
Antidepressents have definetely helped me. Before i started taking them i would cry all day and all night. When i started the medication things became a bit clearer in my head and there was a bit of light at the end of the tunnel!! A year ago it was horrible and i never want to be there again. The worst thing is, I have absolutely no reason to be upset.
I do have side effects, but you learn to live with them. Its better to feel a bit sick and to be shaky in the mornings than feeling suicidal!!!
Unless u have been there, you cant really write a fair reply to this thread.
Hope this has helped xxxxx
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So you're off them now? They've sorted the problem?
No, I was really messed up. if i miss a dose i get really ill. They take a long time to work properly, and you have to find the drug that works for you.
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So they haven't solved the problem. Underneath the tablets, you're still ill.

It's just like for physical illness - you don't take the medication any more if the problem has been found and sorted out.
No. The tablets are jst still working.
You are right, it is like a physical illness. But if you have cancer the drugs dont cure u overnight. You have to take them for a while too.

Have u ever taken antidepressants?
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no. and I never intend to.[/QUOTE]

Yeah i said that.

Some people will have something which has sparked their depression. the death of someone close, bullying, bad upbringing etc. and fair enough, drugs will not be the whole solution for them.
But the majority of people are happy and have nothing to be upset about. i.e. there is nothing to get to the root of. Their brain just stops functioning as it should be and needs some help.
I have tried getting to the 'root of the problem'. I have sat in psychiatrists rooms for up to 2 hours a week. I have had a support system set up at school so that I have nothing to stress about. This all has short term effects, but only the medication has made a significant difference.

I am sure it depends on the severity of ur depression.
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You're not really in a position to disagree if you don't know whether they've actually gotten to the root of yours, though.[/QUOTE]

the root of my probem is a chemical imbalance, and they are the only things that can do anything about that.
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Yes, but cancer treatments eliminate the problem.

Antideps realign your hormone and chemical levels, but they don't take away what could be making your depressed in the first place. They don't teach you coping strategies, or change your outlook on life. They don't change the fact that you could be totally messed up because of a bad upbringing.

They don't cure you, they keep you up as long as you're reliant on them.

no. and I never intend to.
I take it you are aware of the difference between endogenous and reactive depression.
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the root of my probem is a chemical imbalance, and they are the only things that can do anything about that.
But there are a lot of people without the chemical imbalence (Which I refuse to accept anyone has until it's proved by a scan/test). I was convinced I had a chemical imbalence causing my depression. I was sent for scans before they would consider issuing AD's and as I showed no problems I had no ADs.
A much better way for the system to work in my opinion.
I think there are a lot more people without the imbalence as depression has become popular, when questioned a lot of people base theirs on a loss.

Still the tablets won't cure anything, there should be treatment on cognitive processes and behavioural changes as well. Even dietry advice, as certain foods release serotonin.
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Still the tablets won't cure anything, there should be treatment on cognitive processes and behavioural changes as well. Even dietry advice, as certain foods release serotonin.
i had cognitive therapy and it didnt work.

i was self harming and starving myself. there was no time for scans.
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