Maths degree without further maths?
Hello everybody!
I would like to apply to study mathematics or at least a very mathematical degree at university next year.
The only thing is that I do not take further maths (it is not offered at my school).
I aim to apply to the russel group unis- specifically LSE, Imperial, UCL, Queen Mary, Kings.
What are my chances (please be realistic and honest with me)
And what can i do to maximise my chances at least
Any help would be greatly appreciated!
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I would like to apply to study mathematics or at least a very mathematical degree at university next year.
The only thing is that I do not take further maths (it is not offered at my school).
I aim to apply to the russel group unis- specifically LSE, Imperial, UCL, Queen Mary, Kings.
What are my chances (please be realistic and honest with me)
And what can i do to maximise my chances at least
Any help would be greatly appreciated!
)
Original post by Sarah2460
Hello everybody!
I would like to apply to study mathematics or at least a very mathematical degree at university next year.
The only thing is that I do not take further maths (it is not offered at my school).
I aim to apply to the russel group unis- specifically LSE, Imperial, UCL, Queen Mary, Kings.
What are my chances (please be realistic and honest with me)
And what can i do to maximise my chances at least
Any help would be greatly appreciated!)
I would like to apply to study mathematics or at least a very mathematical degree at university next year.
The only thing is that I do not take further maths (it is not offered at my school).
I aim to apply to the russel group unis- specifically LSE, Imperial, UCL, Queen Mary, Kings.
What are my chances (please be realistic and honest with me)
And what can i do to maximise my chances at least
Any help would be greatly appreciated!
)Some universities do take into consideration that your school doesn't offer Further Maths, others would expect you to study it independently.
My sixth form doesn't offer Further Maths so I decided to take it to AS Level to help my uni application for Maths and Economics (the AS Level has actually been apart of some of the offers I have received so far).
But if you are aiming for just Maths, I think it will be difficult for you to get into most of the unis you are aiming for. The only one I think you may have a chance is Queen Mary.
I'm not saying you won't be able to get into a Russell group uni for Maths but look at some other ones and see if Further Maths forms part of their standard offer.
Maybe look into MORSE and Actuarial Science, they are both highly mathematical courses but a lot of unis won't require further maths or will have an alternative offer for those who can't/didn't take it. They also tend to be less competitive than Maths.
You may want to reach out to unis you are interested in directly. You might get slow responses from admissions at this time of year as they are going through applications, but it is worth asking.
Original post by Sarah2460
Hello everybody!
I would like to apply to study mathematics or at least a very mathematical degree at university next year.
The only thing is that I do not take further maths (it is not offered at my school).
I aim to apply to the russel group unis- specifically LSE, Imperial, UCL, Queen Mary, Kings.
What are my chances (please be realistic and honest with me)
And what can i do to maximise my chances at least
Any help would be greatly appreciated!)
I would like to apply to study mathematics or at least a very mathematical degree at university next year.
The only thing is that I do not take further maths (it is not offered at my school).
I aim to apply to the russel group unis- specifically LSE, Imperial, UCL, Queen Mary, Kings.
What are my chances (please be realistic and honest with me)
And what can i do to maximise my chances at least
Any help would be greatly appreciated!
)Self study AS Further Maths and when you apply to uni, get your referee to explain that you couldn't do the full A level as the school doesn't offer it. Email/Call specific unis beforehand and see if they'd accept it (some do, some don't). I'm not sure about your unis specifically but ik last year 2 people from my school got onto a maths degree at RG uni without FM (one at Bristol and the other at Nottingham). Considering my school does actually offer FM, it should be possible for you since you have a good reason.
Also it might be worth changing some of your choices imo. LSE, Imperial, Kings, and UCL are all super competitive and filled with international students. Choose at most 2 of these and have some safer choices. Maybe one choice outside London as well just as a backup.
Original post by Sarah2460
Hello everybody!
I would like to apply to study mathematics or at least a very mathematical degree at university next year.
The only thing is that I do not take further maths (it is not offered at my school).
I aim to apply to the russel group unis- specifically LSE, Imperial, UCL, Queen Mary, Kings.
What are my chances (please be realistic and honest with me)
And what can i do to maximise my chances at least
Any help would be greatly appreciated!)
I would like to apply to study mathematics or at least a very mathematical degree at university next year.
The only thing is that I do not take further maths (it is not offered at my school).
I aim to apply to the russel group unis- specifically LSE, Imperial, UCL, Queen Mary, Kings.
What are my chances (please be realistic and honest with me)
And what can i do to maximise my chances at least
Any help would be greatly appreciated!
)Are you in England?
Original post by Sarah2460
Hello everybody!
I would like to apply to study mathematics or at least a very mathematical degree at university next year.
The only thing is that I do not take further maths (it is not offered at my school).
I aim to apply to the russel group unis- specifically LSE, Imperial, UCL, Queen Mary, Kings.
What are my chances (please be realistic and honest with me)
And what can i do to maximise my chances at least
Any help would be greatly appreciated!)
I would like to apply to study mathematics or at least a very mathematical degree at university next year.
The only thing is that I do not take further maths (it is not offered at my school).
I aim to apply to the russel group unis- specifically LSE, Imperial, UCL, Queen Mary, Kings.
What are my chances (please be realistic and honest with me)
And what can i do to maximise my chances at least
Any help would be greatly appreciated!
)Hey, hopefully I’m not late but I have emailed UCL before( cause I want to study maths and physics but not doing A-level further maths) I was told it’s mandatory so it’s better to check again before the deadline or applying.🙂
Original post by yzven
Why would you ask that? Are you going to recommend AMSP? It's useless, I'm self taught using Bicen Maths, got nearly full marks in FM, full marks in both core pure papers.
That's your opinion but if the OP is in England they can't say their school doesn't offer FMaths and unis know that. D Frost is superior to Bicen btw and why the need to boast?
(edited 1 month ago)
Original post by Muttley79
That's your opinion but if the OP is in England they can't say their school doesn't offer FMaths and unis know that. D Frost is superior to Bicen btw and why the need to boast?
According to the FT, the AMSP is having its funding cutback from April this year. Any idea where the impact of this will be felt - FM, or standard A level support, or elsewhere?
Original post by davros
According to the FT, the AMSP is having its funding cutback from April this year. Any idea where the impact of this will be felt - FM, or standard A level support, or elsewhere?
It's too early to say as other funding sources are being sought. I would hope support for Core Maths, which is now more established, would be the first to be targeted.
Original post by Divinebandit
Some universities do take into consideration that your school doesn't offer Further Maths, others would expect you to study it independently.
My sixth form doesn't offer Further Maths so I decided to take it to AS Level to help my uni application for Maths and Economics (the AS Level has actually been apart of some of the offers I have received so far).
But if you are aiming for just Maths, I think it will be difficult for you to get into most of the unis you are aiming for. The only one I think you may have a chance is Queen Mary.
I'm not saying you won't be able to get into a Russell group uni for Maths but look at some other ones and see if Further Maths forms part of their standard offer.
Maybe look into MORSE and Actuarial Science, they are both highly mathematical courses but a lot of unis won't require further maths or will have an alternative offer for those who can't/didn't take it. They also tend to be less competitive than Maths.
You may want to reach out to unis you are interested in directly. You might get slow responses from admissions at this time of year as they are going through applications, but it is worth asking.
My sixth form doesn't offer Further Maths so I decided to take it to AS Level to help my uni application for Maths and Economics (the AS Level has actually been apart of some of the offers I have received so far).
But if you are aiming for just Maths, I think it will be difficult for you to get into most of the unis you are aiming for. The only one I think you may have a chance is Queen Mary.
I'm not saying you won't be able to get into a Russell group uni for Maths but look at some other ones and see if Further Maths forms part of their standard offer.
Maybe look into MORSE and Actuarial Science, they are both highly mathematical courses but a lot of unis won't require further maths or will have an alternative offer for those who can't/didn't take it. They also tend to be less competitive than Maths.
You may want to reach out to unis you are interested in directly. You might get slow responses from admissions at this time of year as they are going through applications, but it is worth asking.
Thank you very much for your suggestions. I am thinking of self studying at AS level but I am also in the process of researching highly mathematical alternatives such as acutarial science like you mentioned which seems to be the more likely option for me. Thank you for your reply
Original post by pagan-scimitar
Self study AS Further Maths and when you apply to uni, get your referee to explain that you couldn't do the full A level as the school doesn't offer it. Email/Call specific unis beforehand and see if they'd accept it (some do, some don't). I'm not sure about your unis specifically but ik last year 2 people from my school got onto a maths degree at RG uni without FM (one at Bristol and the other at Nottingham). Considering my school does actually offer FM, it should be possible for you since you have a good reason.
Also it might be worth changing some of your choices imo. LSE, Imperial, Kings, and UCL are all super competitive and filled with international students. Choose at most 2 of these and have some safer choices. Maybe one choice outside London as well just as a backup.
Also it might be worth changing some of your choices imo. LSE, Imperial, Kings, and UCL are all super competitive and filled with international students. Choose at most 2 of these and have some safer choices. Maybe one choice outside London as well just as a backup.
Yes self studying is definately an option i was thinking about, thank you for your reply
Original post by Muttley79
Are you in England?
Yes i am
Original post by Semmm
Hey, hopefully I’m not late but I have emailed UCL before( cause I want to study maths and physics but not doing A-level further maths) I was told it’s mandatory so it’s better to check again before the deadline or applying.🙂
Yes thank you for this suggestion I will for sure email them all
Original post by Revdhdhe
What course would you apply for at LSE?
Statistics or actuarial sciences stuck out to me so far but im still in the process of researching more
Original post by Sarah2460
Yes i am
So unfortunately you cannot claim that your school could not offer Further Maths. AMSP could have offered tuition for you at a very reasonable cost: https://amsp.org.uk/teachers/a-level-further-mathematics/student-tuition/
Don't apply anywhere that requires FMaths.
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