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2:2 in Contract module

Hey guys i just got my results for my first semester and idk how to feel. I passed everything thankfully and got the following:



Criminal - 86% - 1st (i think)

Common law- 68% - 2:1 ( i think)

Contract - 50% - 2:2 ( i think)

I have an average of about 68% (2:1) ish which is pretty decent but still.

I'm really worried that the C+ in contract will hold me back when applying for vacation scheme and training contract. Im on a 4 year course meaning that first/second year aren't going toward honours qualification but I'm just really worried considering Magic circle firms are so competitive. I have time to catch up I still have to take semester 2 exams, I was just wondering if that C+ ruined my chances... Also can someone explain what percentage is 2:1 or 1st? Would I have the equivalent of a 2:1?

Reply 1

A First is 70% or higher, so you're sitting on a high 2:1. That's perfectly fine. You would need someone who is more familiar with the inner workings of vacation schemes to confirm (I'm a barrister so have very limited practical knowledge of them), but I can't imagine that a low mark in Contract Law in your first year would scupper your chances of obtaining relevant experience. It's also worth noting that life as a solicitor does not begin or end with Magic Circle firms, and in fact for many they are a positively bad choice given the working environment and expectations. Even if you're fully informed and believe that the Magic Circle is right for you and cannot obtain the precise experience that you want, you still have plenty of time to get some experience now, bring your mark up to over 70%, and gain better experience in future.

Law degrees are difficult, and the transition between A-Levels and degree level study is one that takes time, even for the most able students. It's a transition that took me a good couple of years in practice. Your first year marks so far are very good. Whilst there is room for improvement, you should absolutely be proud of those and not feel that you've failed or in some way not met expectations. You've made an excellent start. Keep it going.

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by Crazy Jamie
A First is 70% or higher, so you're sitting on a high 2:1. That's perfectly fine. You would need someone who is more familiar with the inner workings of vacation schemes to confirm (I'm a barrister so have very limited practical knowledge of them), but I can't imagine that a low mark in Contract Law in your first year would scupper your chances of obtaining relevant experience. It's also worth noting that life as a solicitor does not begin or end with Magic Circle firms, and in fact for many they are a positively bad choice given the working environment and expectations. Even if you're fully informed and believe that the Magic Circle is right for you and cannot obtain the precise experience that you want, you still have plenty of time to get some experience now, bring your mark up to over 70%, and gain better experience in future.
Law degrees are difficult, and the transition between A-Levels and degree level study is one that takes time, even for the most able students. It's a transition that took me a good couple of years in practice. Your first year marks so far are very good. Whilst there is room for improvement, you should absolutely be proud of those and not feel that you've failed or in some way not met expectations. You've made an excellent start. Keep it going.

Thank you this really helpful, I realise that theres more to life than ending up in a magic circle firm I’m just really set (like most law students) to end up with the best. I’m just really paranoid that firms will look at my 2:2 in contract and reject me regardless of the other modules simply because corporate law = contracts. I still have to take my second semester exams so im determined to get at least a 2:1 in all of them and even maybe get those 2 extra percent to get an average of 70%. thanks again for ur reply

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by Sara090906
Thank you this really helpful, I realise that theres more to life than ending up in a magic circle firm I’m just really set (like most law students) to end up with the best. I’m just really paranoid that firms will look at my 2:2 in contract and reject me regardless of the other modules simply because corporate law = contracts. I still have to take my second semester exams so im determined to get at least a 2:1 in all of them and even maybe get those 2 extra percent to get an average of 70%. thanks again for ur reply

You're right that it's really common for law students to be focused on top tier firms, in the same way that it's really common for a disproportionately high number of aspiring barristers to want to work in criminal or human rights. Those aspiring barristers eventually come to realise that their desire to help people or make a positive difference within the legal system can be met in many different areas beyond practices in criminal and human rights, but at this stage most of those candidates simply don't understand the profession sufficiently, and haven't considered how those goals might otherwise be met in sufficient depth to appreciate that there are alternatives which could meet their ambitions just as well or, in some cases, better than the default choices of criminal and human rights. It's exactly the same when it comes to Magic Circle firms. Are they the best? In some respects, yes. For money and prestige they're the obvious choices, but they come with significant drawbacks. In practice, as with other things in life, there's always someone with more money, more prestige, more fame and a better client base than you. Chasing the 'best' for the sake of it is fruitless, because becoming the 'best' in even one respect is almost impossible, and actually impossible across the board.

Instead, and particularly when you start to gain the more tangible practical experience, the question you need to be asking is which is the 'best' for you. What else do you want out of life, and why is it that you want to work? There are other ways to make money and have a fulfilling career that doesn't involve the sacrifices needed to succeed at a Magic Circle firm. You can achieve a better work life balance elsewhere (and whilst that may not be as important in your 20s, it absolutely will if you want to have kids), and you may just flat out find a more satisfying role elsewhere with work that actually keeps you naturally motivated.

All of this is a bit premature for you. I do appreciate that. I am roughly twice your age (which in itself is quite painful to write) and I am giving you the benefit of experiences that you must have for yourself to a large degree. It's just something to keep in mind though, even if it is right at the back of your mind. The Magic Circle might be right for you, but don't assume it is. There are many other ways to have successful, lucrative and fulfilling careers in law, some of which may be the better option for you in the round.

Reply 4

I completely agree with everything you said and I do realise that Magic circle firms may not be the best for me, but I know that I wanna give it my best shot regardless. Becoming the best to me means achieving and realising my full potential. While I may be completely delusional into thinking I have a chance of even being considered for a MC training contract, considering my 2:2 in contract. I like to tell myself that if I work hard I can have a solid shot at applying.I’m very open minded and will most definitely not miss opportunities to explore my options in other sectors of law and beyond. Surely the only way to find out that it’s not for me is to experience it to begin with no? thanks again for your reply

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by Sara090906
I completely agree with everything you said and I do realise that Magic circle firms may not be the best for me, but I know that I wanna give it my best shot regardless. Becoming the best to me means achieving and realising my full potential. While I may be completely delusional into thinking I have a chance of even being considered for a MC training contract, considering my 2:2 in contract. I like to tell myself that if I work hard I can have a solid shot at applying.I’m very open minded and will most definitely not miss opportunities to explore my options in other sectors of law and beyond. Surely the only way to find out that it’s not for me is to experience it to begin with no? thanks again for your reply

I don't think it's the only way, but then again that's a perfectly valid position to adopt. A large part of the university process, and then your professional career, is informing yourself through the experiences that you gain. And I'm not suggesting that you shouldn't aim for training contract at a top tier firm. That's a perfectly good ambition. I'm just suggesting that you keep an open mind regarding your career path. Even if you do secure a training contract at a Magic Circle firm, the environment may not suit you. And that's fine. It won't because you're not cut out for it, and you shouldn't feel like you've failed in some way if that happens. It's just the nature of working life. Hence my pushback on it being the 'best'. But there's nothing wrong with you aiming for that and just taking it one step at a time, and if you do I wish you all the best with that.

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by Crazy Jamie
I don't think it's the only way, but then again that's a perfectly valid position to adopt. A large part of the university process, and then your professional career, is informing yourself through the experiences that you gain. And I'm not suggesting that you shouldn't aim for training contract at a top tier firm. That's a perfectly good ambition. I'm just suggesting that you keep an open mind regarding your career path. Even if you do secure a training contract at a Magic Circle firm, the environment may not suit you. And that's fine. It won't because you're not cut out for it, and you shouldn't feel like you've failed in some way if that happens. It's just the nature of working life. Hence my pushback on it being the 'best'. But there's nothing wrong with you aiming for that and just taking it one step at a time, and if you do I wish you all the best with that.

Thank you very much your reply and your wishes are much appreciated. I’ll just hope that my 2:2 in contract won’t affect my future plans whatever they are :smile:

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by Sara090906
Hey guys i just got my results for my first semester and idk how to feel. I passed everything thankfully and got the following:
Criminal - 86% - 1st (i think)
Common law- 68% - 2:1 ( i think)
Contract - 50% - 2:2 ( i think)
I have an average of about 68% (2:1) ish which is pretty decent but still.
I'm really worried that the C+ in contract will hold me back when applying for vacation scheme and training contract. Im on a 4 year course meaning that first/second year aren't going toward honours qualification but I'm just really worried considering Magic circle firms are so competitive. I have time to catch up I still have to take semester 2 exams, I was just wondering if that C+ ruined my chances... Also can someone explain what percentage is 2:1 or 1st? Would I have the equivalent of a 2:1?

I had similar marks in my first year and had a 2.2 in contract. I still managed to get assessment centres with Freshfields, Hogan Lovells and Norton Rose Fullbright although I failed to secure a vac scheme so I was 0-3. The 2.2 shouldn't hold you back as long as your average is 65% or higher.

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by Academic007
I had similar marks in my first year and had a 2.2 in contract. I still managed to get assessment centres with Freshfields, Hogan Lovells and Norton Rose Fullbright although I failed to secure a vac scheme so I was 0-3. The 2.2 shouldn't hold you back as long as your average is 65% or higher.

I’m sorry so did you manage to get a training contract/vacation scheme in the end ? if so what was your overall grade when you applied ? if you dont mind me asking :smile:
(edited 10 months ago)

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