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Dreams of becoming a doctor- definitely not smart enough

Hi, my whole life I've dreamt of becoming a doctor. I love helping people and having a (hopefully) positive impact on other lives. I'm entering A-Level next year, but I'm now realising I definitely am not the right calibre for med school. I have all the passion but none of the smarts. Is there any combo of A-Levels that med schools will like that are also easy enough for someone who isn't a genius (obviously I must take Bio and Chem). Also any schools that are less competitive then others?

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by Sisi_Char
Hi, my whole life I've dreamt of becoming a doctor. I love helping people and having a (hopefully) positive impact on other lives. I'm entering A-Level next year, but I'm now realising I definitely am not the right calibre for med school. I have all the passion but none of the smarts. Is there any combo of A-Levels that med schools will like that are also easy enough for someone who isn't a genius (obviously I must take Bio and Chem). Also any schools that are less competitive then others?


Why do you think you have "none of the smarts"?

All medical schools are competitive and over-subscribed.

You're what, 15 or 16? Seems a bit early to be writing yourself off as not being the "right calibre".

Reply 2

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by Sisi_Char
Hi, my whole life I've dreamt of becoming a doctor. I love helping people and having a (hopefully) positive impact on other lives. I'm entering A-Level next year, but I'm now realising I definitely am not the right calibre for med school. I have all the passion but none of the smarts. Is there any combo of A-Levels that med schools will like that are also easy enough for someone who isn't a genius (obviously I must take Bio and Chem). Also any schools that are less competitive then others?

Hi mate definitely doesn’t have anything to do with not being “smart enough”. Work for it, make yourself the way up. Learn more into it. With hardwork the reward will pay off. It’s like climbing a ladder you start at the bottom step climbing up until your at the top.

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by Democracy
Why do you think you have "none of the smarts"?
All medical schools are competitive and over-subscribed.
You're what, 15 or 16? Seems a bit early to be writing yourself off as not being the "right calibre".

Maths and Sciences will only get harder, I am already doing horrible at GCSE chemistry and maths, how would I be any better at A-level. I don't want to take bio, chem and math then fail miserably and mess up my chances of going to uni

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by Sisi_Char
Maths and Sciences will only get harder, I am already doing horrible at GCSE chemistry and maths, how would I be any better at A-level. I don't want to take bio, chem and math then fail miserably and mess up my chances of going to uni

What do you mean by "doing horrible"?

You don't necessarily have to do chemistry and you certainly don't need to do maths. You could apply to medical schools that only want one science i.e. biology (or will accept psychology/economics as a second science subject, if you think you'd like either of those).

Have you checked the entry requirements recently?

https://www.medschools.ac.uk/studying-medicine/how-to-apply-to-medical-school-in-the-uk/entry-requirements?type=standard-entry-medicine

Reply 5

I think you’re really being unnecessarily harsh on yourself. If it really is your dream then don’t be afraid to chase it. Work your butt off and never give up. There will always be a way for you to achieve your dreams and goals. Firstly don’t be discouraged with the gcse chemistry. As you get older, your brain continually grows and you will find things start making more sense. You just put in the work and the rest will follow. Secondly, you can always do graduate entry medicine. It’s obviously longer route to medicine but if that’s how you get to live your dream then that’s a small price to pay :smile:

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by Democracy
What do you mean by "doing horrible"?
You don't necessarily have to do chemistry and you certainly don't need to do maths. You could apply to medical schools that only want one science i.e. biology (or will accept psychology/economics as a second science subject, if you think you'd like either of those).
Have you checked the entry requirements recently?
https://www.medschools.ac.uk/studying-medicine/how-to-apply-to-medical-school-in-the-uk/entry-requirements?type=standard-entry-medicine

Correction- you don't have to do biology, you will need chemistry unfortunately.

But don't worry, trust me everyone in med school, all doctors, will never have been great at everything. Everyone will have struggled to understand concepts and make progress, but it's all about keeping the end goal in site and taking small steps towards it- and part of that is having enough confidence in yourself to try!

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by Stethoschol
Correction- you don't have to do biology, you will need chemistry unfortunately.
But don't worry, trust me everyone in med school, all doctors, will never have been great at everything. Everyone will have struggled to understand concepts and make progress, but it's all about keeping the end goal in site and taking small steps towards it- and part of that is having enough confidence in yourself to try!

Thank you for looking into that, but when I say I’m horrible at chem I mean that I didn’t grasp the most basic concepts (writing and balancing equations properly) when we first learnt them and now it’s kinda snowballed into me understanding the new stuff but still being unable to grasp those really simple concepts for some reason.

I’m going to try and work all the summer to prepare for sixth form. I’m taking bio, chem and sport sciences. Definitely not aiming for Oxbridge or anything lol

Reply 8

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by SmileStealer
I think you’re really being unnecessarily harsh on yourself. If it really is your dream then don’t be afraid to chase it. Work your butt off and never give up. There will always be a way for you to achieve your dreams and goals. Firstly don’t be discouraged with the gcse chemistry. As you get older, your brain continually grows and you will find things start making more sense. You just put in the work and the rest will follow. Secondly, you can always do graduate entry medicine. It’s obviously longer route to medicine but if that’s how you get to live your dream then that’s a small price to pay :smile:

Thank you for the kind words! I’m just trying to be realistic so I don’t go into it with too high expectations. I’m going to take bio, chem and sports sciences at just work as hard as possible to get the grades I need

Reply 9

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by Stethoschol
Correction- you don't have to do biology, you will need chemistry unfortunately.
But don't worry, trust me everyone in med school, all doctors, will never have been great at everything. Everyone will have struggled to understand concepts and make progress, but it's all about keeping the end goal in site and taking small steps towards it- and part of that is having enough confidence in yourself to try!

Did you actually check the link I posted?

Reply 10

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by Sisi_Char
Thank you for looking into that, but when I say I’m horrible at chem I mean that I didn’t grasp the most basic concepts (writing and balancing equations properly) when we first learnt them and now it’s kinda snowballed into me understanding the new stuff but still being unable to grasp those really simple concepts for some reason.
I’m going to try and work all the summer to prepare for sixth form. I’m taking bio, chem and sport sciences. Definitely not aiming for Oxbridge or anything lol

Yeah, this doesn't sound like a very strategic way of thinking about getting into medical school. But what do I know, I'm only a doctor!

Not to be a grumpy old man, but did you check the link I sent you? If so, why are you still thinking you must do chemistry?

You could even get into Newcastle's MB BS with no science A levels whatsoever (I'm not advising this btw, but hopefully you can see the broader point I'm making).

Reply 11

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by Democracy
Yeah, this doesn't sound like a very strategic way of thinking about getting into medical school. But what do I know, I'm only a doctor!
Not to be a grumpy old man, but did you check the link I sent you? If so, why are you still thinking you must do chemistry?
You could even get into Newcastle's MB BS with no science A levels whatsoever (I'm not advising this btw, but hopefully you can see the broader point I'm making).
I did check the link but 2/3 of medical schools in the UK make you do chemistry. I’d like to be able to apply to as many as possible

Reply 12

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by Sisi_Char
I did check the link but 2/3 of medical schools in the UK make you do chemistry. I’d like to be able to apply to as many as possible

Yes chemistry is generally a required subject, but at the end of the day you can only apply to 4 med schools. So you just need to meet the requirements of those, but I'd like to add that you should not be so quick to give up on chem. All the best!

Reply 13

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by dev_2607
Yes chemistry is generally a required subject, but at the end of the day you can only apply to 4 med schools. So you just need to meet the requirements of those, but I'd like to add that you should not be so quick to give up on chem. All the best!

Yeah, I want to go to Glasgow or st. Andrew’s so chem is kinda a must 😅

Reply 14

Chemistry is highly desirable for medical school not necessarily because it's chemistry but because success in chemistry requires the learning of knowledge and 'rules' which have to be applied to find a solution to a question. This is a lot of what medicine is all about at a nuts and bolts level. You learn content as a kind of framework and then try to make educated guesses in an attempt to find a diagnosis or answer to the appropriate level of confidence.

In many ways, maths almost obliges you to do the same and so you begin to understand why so much emphasis is placed on maths in education in general.

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could you consider a career as a physicians associate? Do a biomedical type degree which is less competitive than medicine, and then join a training programme for a physicians associate after.

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by kh86
could you consider a career as a physicians associate? Do a biomedical type degree which is less competitive than medicine, and then join a training programme for a physicians associate after.

:facepalm:

Reply 17

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by Sisi_Char
Yeah, I want to go to Glasgow or st. Andrew’s so chem is kinda a must 😅


hiya,
i’m exactly the same age as you, in a similar boat. 1. you do not need chemistry like everyone’s said so if you don’t think you can get AAA with chemistry don’t take it. 2. your 16 deciding what university and basing everything of that is silly, focus on your gcse , improve your chemistry and other subjects and then go from there. you dont have to be a genius to become a doctor but you need to work hard and smart.

my advice as of right now
- lock in on the gcse
- close those gaps over gcse summer
- pick the right alevles for you
and then go from there!!!

btw i’m predicted 7s 8s and like 1 6 and im still going for it and im not doubting myself at all.

Reply 18

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by kh86
could you consider a career as a physicians associate? Do a biomedical type degree which is less competitive than medicine, and then join a training programme for a physicians associate after.


I would consider the career prospects of this move very carefully. Healthcare jobs are very short on the ground at the moment and I'm not sure the current government intend to increase health spending on creating any more for the foreseeable future.

Reply 19

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by kh86
could you consider a career as a physicians associate? Do a biomedical type degree which is less competitive than medicine, and then join a training programme for a physicians associate after.

what I like about medicine is that human aspect, that feeling of connecting and actively helping people. Biomedical Engineering is pretty much only working in a lab. However, if I don't get into med I'd like to go into Kinesiology or Sport Sciences

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