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So, so sick of being lower middle class

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Reply 20

Who is writing on here. First off yes I am lower middle class and not working class, because my parents had skilled jobs, they weren't unskilled workers, and they bought their home, they don't rent it and I did not grow up on a council estate. But at the same time we were not at all well off, as I explained, we lived in a semi in suburbia, so we were lower middle class. Second of all, how can I talk to rich girls when I have a regional accent, I don't have any money, I didn't go to posh schools, they ignore me, and I don't even live in the places where they live like London. No I can't afford to do a masters degree. I have finished at uni but I am still a member of the gym as an ex student. I am doing free courses online. More than anything else this post was just a vent at the system we live in.

Reply 21

I'm in the same position as you (or maybe a rung lower on the ladder, my parents worked as shop assistants) but I'm now twice your age, and I've done well career wise. I heard a quote once "I thought I was middle class until I went to university" and that really rang true for me, I thought we were doing OK! No designer clothes or holidays abroad, but so many people had it worse where I was from, I really felt like I was right in the middle.

Then I went to uni, and I remember one of the first girls I met there had spent a year working in China, and it blew my mind. How (this is pre internet) did she find out about that opportunity? How did she afford the flight out there? The confidence of people from a higher socioeconomic bracket than me amazed me. They were studying subjects which weren't vocational and still had absolute certainty that that was fine and they would get a job afterwards.

So my advice to you from my experience is to think international. Work for a company in a job where you will have colleagues or clients either based abroad or from abroad, and live in a city with a decent level of immigration. Friends and colleagues from other countries don't pick up on my accent - some Americans even think I sound like the queen. And with so many backgrounds and cultures mixed in, nobody asks things like "do you ski?" or "what school did you go to?". The chip on my shoulder has definitely shrunk, not quite to nothing, but so I don't think about it most days.

With your degree, you're really in a good position to do this. For my friend with a languages degree, 6 months working in Germany changed her life. Best of luck.

Reply 22

What is it about being lower middle class that bothers you? Are you jealous of those higher up or is it some kind of subconscious embarrassment about being higher than those in a class below you. I considered my self lower middle class when I lived with my parents, both my parents worked, they scrimped and saved to send my brother and I to private school, we were comfortable, always had food on the table and roof over our head, didn't wear designer clothes or had the latest gear but we had enough. Now I can't work due to disability my husband works part time cos I need him to care for me, we are probably below working class but we are both doing second degrees to make it better. Its the way of the world, **** happens. If you want to be higher class knuckle down and work for it if you want be lower class give up. The choice is in your hands.

Reply 23

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by Anonymous
Who is writing on here. First off yes I am lower middle class and not working class, because my parents had skilled jobs, they weren't unskilled workers, and they bought their home, they don't rent it and I did not grow up on a council estate. But at the same time we were not at all well off, as I explained, we lived in a semi in suburbia, so we were lower middle class. Second of all, how can I talk to rich girls when I have a regional accent, I don't have any money, I didn't go to posh schools, they ignore me, and I don't even live in the places where they live like London. No I can't afford to do a masters degree. I have finished at uni but I am still a member of the gym as an ex student. I am doing free courses online. More than anything else this post was just a vent at the system we live in.

You're working class bro 🥲 The sooner you make peace with this the sooner you'll stop feeling such an inferior imposter. You realise 'lower middle class' is the sort of thing we largely say to make people feel better? Like when we add 'Executive' to a random job title, or call a section in a library 'Young Adult' when everyone else just calls it the children's section, it's all about massaging egos.

You don't 100% inherit class from your parents btw, like I was brought up in a middle class environment largely due to my grandparents accomplishments, but when I make my own way in the world I'm bluntly kicked back to working class as are you (unless your family is the sort of rich where they casually buy you a home or hand over a 6/7 figure trust fund when you move out). I'm nearing middle age and I own my home, I own my vehicles, small business and smaller rental properties but I'm still v much working class and largely rely on my wages to get by.

Reply 24

Original post
by Anonymous
Who is writing on here. First off yes I am lower middle class and not working class, because my parents had skilled jobs, they weren't unskilled workers, and they bought their home, they don't rent it and I did not grow up on a council estate. But at the same time we were not at all well off, as I explained, we lived in a semi in suburbia, so we were lower middle class. Second of all, how can I talk to rich girls when I have a regional accent, I don't have any money, I didn't go to posh schools, they ignore me, and I don't even live in the places where they live like London. No I can't afford to do a masters degree. I have finished at uni but I am still a member of the gym as an ex student. I am doing free courses online. More than anything else this post was just a vent at the system we live in.

Why do you need to talk to rich girls specifically? And if you do need to exclusively talk to rich girls for whatever reason, why are you assuming your accent is going to be a problem? It doesn't have to be... My GP is Glaswegian with the thickets accent you can imagine and that hasn't stopped them from getting a solid career and a partner and kids - they live and work in a pretty posh part of a posh city. I appreciate finances being an issue but beyond that, all the barriers are in you head far more than they are a reality...

Reply 25

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by StriderHort
You're working class bro 🥲 The sooner you make peace with this the sooner you'll stop feeling such an inferior imposter. You realise 'lower middle class' is the sort of thing we largely say to make people feel better? Like when we add 'Executive' to a random job title, or call a section in a library 'Young Adult' when everyone else just calls it the children's section, it's all about massaging egos.
You don't 100% inherit class from your parents btw, like I was brought up in a middle class environment largely due to my grandparents accomplishments, but when I make my own way in the world I'm bluntly kicked back to working class as are you (unless your family is the sort of rich where they casually buy you a home or hand over a 6/7 figure trust fund when you move out). I'm nearing middle age and I own my home, I own my vehicles, small business and smaller rental properties but I'm still v much working class and largely rely on my wages to get by.


Owning rental properties means you are not part of the working class anymore. Being a landlord is the graduation phase into the middle (or even upper class ). Congratulations on being nouveau riche.

Reply 26

Chin up, at least you don't have to go to food banks and sit in a freezing cold house all day, or live in a Premier Inn paid for by the state not being able to cook anything. There are worse positions to be in. Much worse.

Reply 27

I had a read and wondered if your post was for real. It is usually only the Labour party who bang on and bother about class. How did you manage to self define yourself and who indoctrinated you with these ideas? Your whole post is negative. Turn it around. If you have such a negative outlook it is hardly surprising that anything will turn out well. You might as well give in before you start if you give yourself excuses not to achieve and to do well. If you are determined enough you can achieve anything (with just a few exceptions!) People create their own luck by listening and believing everything is worth trying at least once. Having lots of contacts is probably the most important issue here - it's who you know and recognising an 'open' door when you see one. I'm sensing this is an all or nothing approach to life? Welfare or millionaire? Get on and take the most menial jobs, learn, progress and use everything in life as a stepping stone to better things.

Reply 28

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by Rob Bellic
Owning rental properties means you are not part of the working class anymore. Being a landlord is the graduation phase into the middle (or even upper class ). Congratulations on being nouveau riche.

Mneh, If these properties were homes I'd agree without question, but in my case smaller lock up garage. The majority of my income still comes from my hourly wages, the property stuff is more like a side hustle.

Reply 29

Original post
by Anonymous
Who is writing on here. First off yes I am lower middle class and not working class, because my parents had skilled jobs, they weren't unskilled workers, and they bought their home, they don't rent it and I did not grow up on a council estate. But at the same time we were not at all well off, as I explained, we lived in a semi in suburbia, so we were lower middle class. Second of all, how can I talk to rich girls when I have a regional accent, I don't have any money, I didn't go to posh schools, they ignore me, and I don't even live in the places where they live like London. No I can't afford to do a masters degree. I have finished at uni but I am still a member of the gym as an ex student. I am doing free courses online. More than anything else this post was just a vent at the system we live in.

It is actually easy to blow all the posh boys out the water. If you're clever about it.
Lover frame, not provider frame.
Good man to woman social skills.
Good practical life skills and good relationship skills.

If any given woman ignores you, that could be bad luck.
If there's a pattern of you getting ignored by women, including "posh" women then there's something you could be doing a lot better to get their attention and to keep it.

Reply 30

if women are ignored, it can be a signal that you need to work on yourself and develop your inner qualities. Appearance is only the beginning.

Reply 31

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by Anonymous
I am writing to vent because I am so, so sick of being from a lower middle class background in this society and feel I have no options for betterment. I did a languages degree with translation and there are literally no well paid jobs in this field. I grew up in a semi, my father was a civil servant and my mum was a part time teacher. We were average in every way, not poor but a long, long way from being rich. Second hand family cars, holidays were nearly always in the UK, getting a designer pair of trainers was a big expense for us. I have a slight regional accent and when it comes to it, I really lack confidence like most people I went to school with. I never thought about these things until uni, but I met so many people who had been on holiday all over the world, been skiing, live in posh parts of London or the south, went to private school, speak in posh accents and are so confident. I was at the gym at my uni earlier this week and this girl was there and I had to ask her something, basically she put her bag on top of my jacket by mistake and I had to ask her to move it. She was very attractive, no doubt from London or somewhere and had a really posh accent, and I literally felt like a chimney sweep speaking to her. Can anybody else sympathize, I mean how do you even start to move upwards in this country? It isn't just people it is house prices and everything.

Why not become a civil servant and get on £100k a year (plus pension). You'd at least then be middle-middle class even if you decided to live in the south.

Reply 32

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by ROTL 94
Chin up, at least you don't have to go to food banks and sit in a freezing cold house all day, or live in a Premier Inn paid for by the state not being able to cook anything. There are worse positions to be in. Much worse.

Indeed could be in a Travelodge. But could be better, could be in a Hilton.

Reply 33

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by Quady
Why not become a civil servant and get on £100k a year (plus pension). You'd at least then be middle-middle class even if you decided to live in the south.


"If it was that easy everyone would be doing it"

Reply 34

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by Rob Bellic
"If it was that easy everyone would be doing it"

Obv not everyone, but an awful lot of people do seem to join the civil service one way or another because they couldn't excel anywhere else or have any better ideas, only needed basic qualifications and liked the permanent indoor work and (at the time anyway) a good pension. I know quite a few people who joined DWP or HMRC just because it was a steady career and they weren't too picky. Anecdotally I was told once that for some roles they accepted a foundation/2 year degree and that let you walk into a more or less graduate role with them, I can see that being of appeal to a lot of people who maybe didn't get the grades they wanted or have limited time to retrain etc.

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