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should i reapply to cambridge?

hey,

got rejected from cambridge gonville and caius college for phys natsci - a levels maths, further maths, chemistry, physics, predicted four a*s, straight 9s at gcse - and was super upset about it, i've wanted to go to oxbridge since i was little, i spent the entirety of sixth form working my ass off doing tonnes of outreach schemes and residentials for it and it really sucked that i didn't get in or even get pooled.

i'm just curious, is it worth reapplying? the only uni i'm waiting on is physics at imperial, which i'm not even insanely keen on going to anymore tbh since living in london sounds like hell, and i'm fairly sure that i'll get rejected from there anyways since the esat admissions test i sat for cambridge was also for imperial. i think my esat score was the main reason for my rejection - they didn't give me any feedback, but my scores were 4.5, 3.8 and 4.8 for maths 1 maths 2 and physics respectively, and most people who got offers had scores of 7+. my interview could've gone better too.

i've got offers from sheffield and warwick, and have an upcoming interview for manchester (i've heard that the interview is very general for manchester and most people who have an interview have an offer? not really sure, don't want to take any risks now that i've been rejected), so if i'm successful with manchester that'll probs be where i go.

i'm concerned that other than getting a job and working on my application again i'm not really going to have much to do during a gap year. i have a few plans, like learning some coding languages, teaching myself extra further maths modules, getting a job to save up and get experience, but otherwise i'm going to get bored and lonely easily. also, i really want to learn to live on my own (my parents love me and have supported me so so much but i want to gain some independence). lots of my friends have got offers from oxbridge and other unis, so i'll be mostly on my own for the year too. my whole career plan will get set back by another year; if i do a phd after my masters i won't get full time employment for ages. also, probably the biggest pushback, i might get rejected again, and i really really don't want to go through that again.

on the other hand, there's a small possibility i could go to the uni that i worked hard for.

either i go to manchester if i get in, warwick if i dont (manchester seemed more solid for physics), or take a year out and give cambridge another shot. what should i do?
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Reply 1

I know someone who got rejected by Oxford for med, and went on a gap year, reapplied and then got into Oxford (results: AAAA)

If you do getting 4A* (which im sure u will) u can take gap year (and do some work experience or smth) and then reapply

Reply 2

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by AhsokaTano-
I know someone who got rejected by Oxford for med, and went on a gap year, reapplied and then got into Oxford (results: AAAA)
If you do getting 4A* (which im sure u will) u can take gap year (and do some work experience or smth) and then reapply

thanks for replying! i'm only going to focus on my grades until june now so hopefully if i don't screw up again i can get them :smile:

Reply 3

Or - just accept it, go somewhere else, and then do postgrad at Oxbridge.

Reply 4

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by McGinger
Or - just accept it, go somewhere else, and then do postgrad at Oxbridge.

i've also been considering that, thank you :smile:

i don't know how hard it is to get into a postgrad at oxbridge though, would i need a certain percentage in my exams or something?

Reply 5

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by poly57
hey,
got rejected from cambridge gonville and caius college for phys natsci - a levels maths, further maths, chemistry, physics, predicted four a*s, straight 9s at gcse - and was super upset about it, oxbridge has been my dream since i was little, i spent the entirety of sixth form working my ass off doing tonnes of outreach schemes and residentials for it and it really sucked that i didn't get in or even get pooled.
i'm just curious, is it worth reapplying? the only uni i'm waiting on is physics at imperial, which i'm not even insanely keen on going to anymore tbh since living in london sounds like hell, and i'm fairly sure that i'll get rejected from there anyways since the esat admissions test i sat for cambridge was also for imperial. i think my esat score was the main reason for my rejection - they didn't give me any feedback, but my scores were 4.5, 3.8 and 4.8 for maths 1 maths 2 and physics respectively, and most people who got offers had scores of 7+. my interview could've gone better too.
i've got offers from sheffield and warwick, and have an upcoming interview for manchester (i've heard that the interview is very general for manchester and most people who have an interview have an offer? not really sure, don't want to take any risks now that i've been rejected), so if i'm successful with manchester that'll probs be where i go.
i'm concerned that other than getting a job and working on my application again i'm not really going to have much to do during a gap year. i have a few plans, like learning some coding languages, teaching myself extra further maths modules, getting a job to save up and get experience, but otherwise i'm going to get bored and lonely easily. also, i really want to learn to live on my own (my parents love me and have supported me so so much but i want to gain some independence), maybe meet someone and get a boyfriend finally (parents won't let me do that if i stay with them, and it's unlikely to happen anyways since i live in sheffield and it's a small place XD). lots of my friends have got offers from oxbridge and other unis, so i'll be mostly on my own for the year too. my whole career plan will get set back by another year; if i do a phd after my masters i won't get full time employment for ages. also, probs the biggest pushback, i might get rejected again, and i really really don't want to go through that **** again XD
on the other hand, there's a small possibility i could finally achieve my dream and go to the uni i've always wanted to go to.
either i go to manchester if i get in, warwick if i dont (manchester seemed more solid for physics), or take a year out and give cambridge another shot. what do you guys think?

I'd go to Manchester if you get an offer.

Reply 6

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by poly57
i've also been considering that, thank you :smile:
i don't know how hard it is to get into a postgrad at oxbridge though, would i need a certain percentage in my exams or something?

Entry requirements | Postgraduate Study
"The University’s minimum academic requirement is a 2:1 (upper second class) UK Bachelor's Honours Degree or its international equivalent. Many of our courses require applicants to have a higher level, such as a high 2:1 or a 1st class UK Bachelor’s Honours Degree, or their international equivalents."

And btw, they are not obsessed with 'which Uni' or even 'RG' - it doesn't give you any inherent advantage.

Reply 7

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by McGinger
Entry requirements | Postgraduate Study
"The University’s minimum academic requirement is a 2:1 (upper second class) UK Bachelor's Honours Degree or its international equivalent. Many of our courses require applicants to have a higher level, such as a high 2:1 or a 1st class UK Bachelor’s Honours Degree, or their international equivalents."
And btw, they are not obsessed with 'which Uni' or even 'RG' - it doesn't give you any inherent advantage.

thank you!!

Reply 8

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by poly57
hey,
got rejected from cambridge gonville and caius college for phys natsci - a levels maths, further maths, chemistry, physics, predicted four a*s, straight 9s at gcse - and was super upset about it, oxbridge has been my dream since i was little, i spent the entirety of sixth form working my ass off doing tonnes of outreach schemes and residentials for it and it really sucked that i didn't get in or even get pooled.
i'm just curious, is it worth reapplying? the only uni i'm waiting on is physics at imperial, which i'm not even insanely keen on going to anymore tbh since living in london sounds like hell, and i'm fairly sure that i'll get rejected from there anyways since the esat admissions test i sat for cambridge was also for imperial. i think my esat score was the main reason for my rejection - they didn't give me any feedback, but my scores were 4.5, 3.8 and 4.8 for maths 1 maths 2 and physics respectively, and most people who got offers had scores of 7+. my interview could've gone better too.
i've got offers from sheffield and warwick, and have an upcoming interview for manchester (i've heard that the interview is very general for manchester and most people who have an interview have an offer? not really sure, don't want to take any risks now that i've been rejected), so if i'm successful with manchester that'll probs be where i go.
i'm concerned that other than getting a job and working on my application again i'm not really going to have much to do during a gap year. i have a few plans, like learning some coding languages, teaching myself extra further maths modules, getting a job to save up and get experience, but otherwise i'm going to get bored and lonely easily. also, i really want to learn to live on my own (my parents love me and have supported me so so much but i want to gain some independence), maybe meet someone and get a boyfriend finally (parents won't let me do that if i stay with them, and it's unlikely to happen anyways since i live in sheffield and it's a small place XD). lots of my friends have got offers from oxbridge and other unis, so i'll be mostly on my own for the year too. my whole career plan will get set back by another year; if i do a phd after my masters i won't get full time employment for ages. also, probs the biggest pushback, i might get rejected again, and i really really don't want to go through that **** again XD
on the other hand, there's a small possibility i could finally achieve my dream and go to the uni i've always wanted to go to.
either i go to manchester if i get in, warwick if i dont (manchester seemed more solid for physics), or take a year out and give cambridge another shot. what do you guys think?


I got rejected from Cambridge too, for maths. I was one of 12 girls that got into a residential at Cambridge and they basically said all of us would get offers- not many of us did! So I was upset too. Now I think about it, I think the expectations at cambridge will be insane and very pressurised. I've been doing the IB and it's been super stressful. The workload has been immense and it's cost me my boyfriend of 3 years. I actually do think that it's probably the right thing that I didn't get in.

Unfortunately, I'm not in your position and have heard from neither Warwick or St Andrews yet so could possibly end up with no offers and taking a gap year to reassess my life. If that happens, I have already started planning to do temp work then go travelling and repeating that for the year.

If you take a gap year, you need a clear plan. If you can't make the most of the gap year, go to one of your offers you have. I only applied to unis I definitely wanted to go to so think which one you'd like. You can always change your mind once results come out.

Reply 9

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by Midgetgem84
I got rejected from Cambridge too, for maths. I was one of 12 girls that got into a residential at Cambridge and they basically said all of us would get offers- not many of us did! So I was upset too. Now I think about it, I think the expectations at cambridge will be insane and very pressurised. I've been doing the IB and it's been super stressful. The workload has been immense and it's cost me my boyfriend of 3 years. I actually do think that it's probably the right thing that I didn't get in.
Unfortunately, I'm not in your position and have heard from neither Warwick or St Andrews yet so could possibly end up with no offers and taking a gap year to reassess my life. If that happens, I have already started planning to do temp work then go travelling and repeating that for the year.
If you take a gap year, you need a clear plan. If you can't make the most of the gap year, go to one of your offers you have. I only applied to unis I definitely wanted to go to so think which one you'd like. You can always change your mind once results come out.

Warwick has a fairly high acceptance rate, so Id presume theyre waiting for the jan sitting of the tmua before making offers, so maybe the end of this month.

Reply 10

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by mqb2766
Warwick has a fairly high acceptance rate, so Id presume theyre waiting for the jan sitting of the tmua before making offers, so maybe the end of this month.


They are cambridge and oxford rejects and don't have many pure maths places so I expect they'll pick the rejects with high TMUA results. I did mine in October and only got 4.3 annoyingly.

Reply 11

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by Midgetgem84
They are cambridge and oxford rejects and don't have many pure maths places so I expect they'll pick the rejects with high TMUA results. I did mine in October and only got 4.3 annoyingly.

Its really is a bit of a lottery being accepted for oxbridge and there are plenty of very capable people who get rejected. Theres a guy (sometimes) on here who seems to be enjoying it and did very well in year 1, so its hardly a bad second option. They do state that if the tmua isnt up to scratch (4.3 sounds a bit low), you do get a second chance with a 2 in step 2.

Reply 12

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by mqb2766
Its really is a bit of a lottery being accepted for oxbridge and there are plenty of very capable people who get rejected. Theres a guy (sometimes) on here who seems to be enjoying it and did very well in year 1, so its hardly a bad second option. They do state that if the tmua isnt up to scratch (4.3 sounds a bit low), you do get a second chance with a 2 in step 2.


Yeah, they want 5 in TMUA. I really didn't want to do step. Though 2 is fine compared to a 1 for cambridge. I'd probably do the extended award in maths instead though as they accept this and it's a qualification rather than just an entrance exam.

Reply 13

What is it about Cambridge that is your be-all and end-all? Warwick and Manchester are both fantastic universities. Plus sounds like a lot of the personal growth and development aspects that you're seeking right now, you can get simply by going to any university! Unless you're certain of what you will do and the time needed for it, a gap year is a long time to wait just to attempt to get in again.

Reply 14

Original post
by Midgetgem84
Yeah, they want 5 in TMUA. I really didn't want to do step. Though 2 is fine compared to a 1 for cambridge. I'd probably do the extended award in maths instead though as they accept this and it's a qualification rather than just an entrance exam.

Have you checked the entry requirements for the course youre interested in? From a quick scan of the web pages, the usual maths course appears to be tmua/step, but maths+stats is tmua/step/aea.

Reply 15

Original post
by mqb2766
Have you checked the entry requirements for the course youre interested in? From a quick scan of the web pages, the usual maths course is tmua/step, but maths+stats is tmua/step/aea.


Well, when I spoke to them they said AEA can be used instead of STEP if I get a distinction. I'm hoping I get an offer to St Andrews and don't have to do any tbh

Reply 16

Original post
by Midgetgem84
Well, when I spoke to them they said AEA can be used instead of STEP if I get a distinction. I'm hoping I get an offer to St Andrews and don't have to do any tbh

Sure, but assuming its
https://warwick.ac.uk/study/undergraduate/courses/bsc-mathematics/
aea isnt mentioned? If youre relying on it, Id make sure you have something in writing

Reply 17

Original post
by mqb2766
Sure, but assuming its
https://warwick.ac.uk/study/undergraduate/courses/bsc-mathematics/
aea isnt mentioned? If youre relying on it, Id make sure you have something in writing


I don't have an offer so it's not really applicable at the moment. But thanks

Reply 18

Original post
by poly57
hey,
got rejected from cambridge gonville and caius college for phys natsci - a levels maths, further maths, chemistry, physics, predicted four a*s, straight 9s at gcse - and was super upset about it, oxbridge has been my dream since i was little, i spent the entirety of sixth form working my ass off doing tonnes of outreach schemes and residentials for it and it really sucked that i didn't get in or even get pooled.
i'm just curious, is it worth reapplying? the only uni i'm waiting on is physics at imperial, which i'm not even insanely keen on going to anymore tbh since living in london sounds like hell, and i'm fairly sure that i'll get rejected from there anyways since the esat admissions test i sat for cambridge was also for imperial. i think my esat score was the main reason for my rejection - they didn't give me any feedback, but my scores were 4.5, 3.8 and 4.8 for maths 1 maths 2 and physics respectively, and most people who got offers had scores of 7+. my interview could've gone better too.
i've got offers from sheffield and warwick, and have an upcoming interview for manchester (i've heard that the interview is very general for manchester and most people who have an interview have an offer? not really sure, don't want to take any risks now that i've been rejected), so if i'm successful with manchester that'll probs be where i go.
i'm concerned that other than getting a job and working on my application again i'm not really going to have much to do during a gap year. i have a few plans, like learning some coding languages, teaching myself extra further maths modules, getting a job to save up and get experience, but otherwise i'm going to get bored and lonely easily. also, i really want to learn to live on my own (my parents love me and have supported me so so much but i want to gain some independence), maybe meet someone and get a boyfriend finally (parents won't let me do that if i stay with them, and it's unlikely to happen anyways since i live in sheffield and it's a small place XD). lots of my friends have got offers from oxbridge and other unis, so i'll be mostly on my own for the year too. my whole career plan will get set back by another year; if i do a phd after my masters i won't get full time employment for ages. also, probs the biggest pushback, i might get rejected again, and i really really don't want to go through that **** again XD
on the other hand, there's a small possibility i could finally achieve my dream and go to the uni i've always wanted to go to.
either i go to manchester if i get in, warwick if i dont (manchester seemed more solid for physics), or take a year out and give cambridge another shot. what do you guys think?


I’m same situation, got Manchester interview today, I would say yes reapply just put more effort into the admissions test

Reply 19

If you really want to, by all means, but make sure you make your gap year worthwhile in its own right. Additionally, how would you take being rejected again? If you don't feel like you could take rejection again, I would strongly urge you to reconsider. Remember, so many really capable and intelligent people like you don't get in, and you'll thrive at another uni I'm sure. I didn't get into engineering without an interview, and initially I wanted to reapply, but I went off the idea fairly soon, there's no way I want to go through it all again and still have a very high chance of getting rejected again. Definitely take what offers you get and don't commit to taking a year out until you've got your grades

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