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i'm a week away from picking my a level choices and know that i will be taking chem and maths but i can't decide on my third. my choices are bio, physics and geography. i like geography as a subject and i'm indifferent about physics but not a fan of biology. I'm planning on taking either architecture or pharmacy /chemical engineering at uni. i don't want to take a subject that's completely irrelevant to my course and do not want to be at a disadvantage when applying to unis because i have taken an irrelevant subject, I also do not want to take biology and struggle with the bio chem maths combo (as i heard a level biology is particularly hard?). Also, if i do not take a level art will i be at a disadvantage for architecture? ( i take gcse textiles but i'm not taking a level art)
THANKS XX

Reply 1

I once heard “the best architects are artists”. My sister wants to go into architecture so I have been helping her do some research for alevels, and many universities require art alevel to do an architecture degree. Although not compulsory, think about how it would help if you were interested in and capable of working with the experience from an art alevel from a creative perspective/experience that the alevel course gives you. As for the other options, chemical engineering often asks for one or two of maths, chemistry and physics so keep that in mind if you want to go into an engineering field. As for pharmacy, biology will be a huge part of the course and think how if you aren’t keen on biology now, a degree where it has a high emphasis on biological aspects may be a struggle to find interest/ motivation etc. alevel biology as you rightly said is a huge commitment and if you aren’t passionate about it then it’s highly likely you will find yourself unmotivated and swamped in work that you hate. My advice is to find a couple of target universities that you like the look of, and see which alevels they require to do what. Unis will hardly ever have three alevel requirements - it will usually be eg. Maths and once of the following : physics, DT, chemistry, economics etc etc (engineering example). So in my eyes no alevels are pointless or “irrelevant” as you can (most of the time) have a third choice that you know you can get a high grade in because you enjoy it. A**A**C/D including biology may not be chosen over A**A**A** with a different subject. From what you’ve posted, geography seems like the best bet, and a couple of people I know do that combination of maths chem and geography. I want to go into mechanical engineering and because I did my research back in year 11 I knew that the univesities I would love to go to require maths (compulsory) and one of chem or physics or other random subjects, and nothing else is required to do the course. This way I knew I could pick a third subject based off of what I really enjoyed and knew I could get a high grade in - maths physics and business studies! I wish you all the best for your options but go with your interests because that’s going to get you further than if you don’t and just burn out because of lack of enjoyment and motivation. Good luck! :smile:

Reply 2

Bio chem maths is the most popular A-level combo. Physics A-level is much much harder than GCSE in my opinion, and I'd avoid taking it, however, with Maths alongside Physics, it's not a bad option. For chemical engineering or pharmacy, Biology is better. For architecture, geography or physics is better, but honestly, I don't think it makes a huge difference for most universities, as long as you have Maths and Chem for chemical engineering and Maths for Architecture i believe. I'm more thinking about how you can link your subjects to your course when you write your personal statement. A level bio is very specific about how you word things for mark schemes, but should be fine with good revision and memorisation. From my experience, Physics has a lot more applied questions, rather than recalling facts. It also has much more maths questions which is helpful since you're taking maths. Also, remember with Geography that you'll have to write an NEA, which is a long coursework project, so if you don't like coursework that's also something to consider. I wouldn't say you're at a disadvantage if you don't take Art, but I'd look at course requirements at different unis to find out. I have a friend applying to Architecture with Product Design, Maths and Physics. She has 4/5 offers (Cambridge rejection). At the end of the day, take everything what I say with a grain of salt. I may be wrong and I think this is very opinionated. Maybe look at the specs of the subjects you wanna study to find out more about if you'd enjoy the modules or not. I also may not be very accurate with what I'm saying, but I hope my opinions were somewhat useful

Reply 3

Original post by splintered-can
i'm a week away from picking my a level choices and know that i will be taking chem and maths but i can't decide on my third. my choices are bio, physics and geography. i like geography as a subject and i'm indifferent about physics but not a fan of biology. I'm planning on taking either architecture or pharmacy /chemical engineering at uni. i don't want to take a subject that's completely irrelevant to my course and do not want to be at a disadvantage when applying to unis because i have taken an irrelevant subject, I also do not want to take biology and struggle with the bio chem maths combo (as i heard a level biology is particularly hard?). Also, if i do not take a level art will i be at a disadvantage for architecture? ( i take gcse textiles but i'm not taking a level art)
THANKS XX

In my opinion, physics is one of the hardest A-Levels, so I would suggest avoiding that if you're worried about difficulty. I have also heard that A Level biology is also quite challenging, although I don't take it myself. I believe that geography is a bit easier and the coursework element (at least for Edexcel) relieves some of the stress from the exams.

For architecture, you often don't require art as an A-level, but some Universities may give preference to students that have it (I know Manchester does...). However, I think you may still be able to submit portfolio's instead if that's a possibility. It depends on where you'd like to go for University

Reply 4

Original post by Sofiagerbinoo
I once heard “the best architects are artists”. My sister wants to go into architecture so I have been helping her do some research for alevels, and many universities require art alevel to do an architecture degree. Although not compulsory, think about how it would help if you were interested in and capable of working with the experience from an art alevel from a creative perspective/experience that the alevel course gives you. As for the other options, chemical engineering often asks for one or two of maths, chemistry and physics so keep that in mind if you want to go into an engineering field. As for pharmacy, biology will be a huge part of the course and think how if you aren’t keen on biology now, a degree where it has a high emphasis on biological aspects may be a struggle to find interest/ motivation etc. alevel biology as you rightly said is a huge commitment and if you aren’t passionate about it then it’s highly likely you will find yourself unmotivated and swamped in work that you hate. My advice is to find a couple of target universities that you like the look of, and see which alevels they require to do what. Unis will hardly ever have three alevel requirements - it will usually be eg. Maths and once of the following : physics, DT, chemistry, economics etc etc (engineering example). So in my eyes no alevels are pointless or “irrelevant” as you can (most of the time) have a third choice that you know you can get a high grade in because you enjoy it. A**A**C/D including biology may not be chosen over A**A**A** with a different subject. From what you’ve posted, geography seems like the best bet, and a couple of people I know do that combination of maths chem and geography. I want to go into mechanical engineering and because I did my research back in year 11 I knew that the univesities I would love to go to require maths (compulsory) and one of chem or physics or other random subjects, and nothing else is required to do the course. This way I knew I could pick a third subject based off of what I really enjoyed and knew I could get a high grade in - maths physics and business studies! I wish you all the best for your options but go with your interests because that’s going to get you further than if you don’t and just burn out because of lack of enjoyment and motivation. Good luck! :smile:

Thank uu!! out of curiosity, where r u applying/thinking of applying to?

Reply 5

Original post by ashleyyyyy
Bio chem maths is the most popular A-level combo. Physics A-level is much much harder than GCSE in my opinion, and I'd avoid taking it, however, with Maths alongside Physics, it's not a bad option. For chemical engineering or pharmacy, Biology is better. For architecture, geography or physics is better, but honestly, I don't think it makes a huge difference for most universities, as long as you have Maths and Chem for chemical engineering and Maths for Architecture i believe. I'm more thinking about how you can link your subjects to your course when you write your personal statement. A level bio is very specific about how you word things for mark schemes, but should be fine with good revision and memorisation. From my experience, Physics has a lot more applied questions, rather than recalling facts. It also has much more maths questions which is helpful since you're taking maths. Also, remember with Geography that you'll have to write an NEA, which is a long coursework project, so if you don't like coursework that's also something to consider. I wouldn't say you're at a disadvantage if you don't take Art, but I'd look at course requirements at different unis to find out. I have a friend applying to Architecture with Product Design, Maths and Physics. She has 4/5 offers (Cambridge rejection). At the end of the day, take everything what I say with a grain of salt. I may be wrong and I think this is very opinionated. Maybe look at the specs of the subjects you wanna study to find out more about if you'd enjoy the modules or not. I also may not be very accurate with what I'm saying, but I hope my opinions were somewhat useful

thank uu!
Original post by splintered-can
i'm a week away from picking my a level choices and know that i will be taking chem and maths but i can't decide on my third. my choices are bio, physics and geography. i like geography as a subject and i'm indifferent about physics but not a fan of biology. I'm planning on taking either architecture or pharmacy /chemical engineering at uni. i don't want to take a subject that's completely irrelevant to my course and do not want to be at a disadvantage when applying to unis because i have taken an irrelevant subject, I also do not want to take biology and struggle with the bio chem maths combo (as i heard a level biology is particularly hard?). Also, if i do not take a level art will i be at a disadvantage for architecture? ( i take gcse textiles but i'm not taking a level art)
THANKS XX


Have a look at the A Levels for Architecture thread. An architecture degree is 50% design and the vast majority of unis will require a portfolio as part of the application process so, while art is not a required subject, taking a creative subject would make your life at lot easier. You need to take subjects that you enjoy and will get the best grades in so, if you are not a fan of bio, don't take it.
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Original post by ashleyyyyy
Bio chem maths is the most popular A-level combo. Physics A-level is much much harder than GCSE in my opinion, and I'd avoid taking it, however, with Maths alongside Physics, it's not a bad option. For chemical engineering or pharmacy, Biology is better. For architecture, geography or physics is better, but honestly, I don't think it makes a huge difference for most universities, as long as you have Maths and Chem for chemical engineering and Maths for Architecture i believe. I'm more thinking about how you can link your subjects to your course when you write your personal statement. A level bio is very specific about how you word things for mark schemes, but should be fine with good revision and memorisation. From my experience, Physics has a lot more applied questions, rather than recalling facts. It also has much more maths questions which is helpful since you're taking maths. Also, remember with Geography that you'll have to write an NEA, which is a long coursework project, so if you don't like coursework that's also something to consider. I wouldn't say you're at a disadvantage if you don't take Art, but I'd look at course requirements at different unis to find out. I have a friend applying to Architecture with Product Design, Maths and Physics. She has 4/5 offers (Cambridge rejection). At the end of the day, take everything what I say with a grain of salt. I may be wrong and I think this is very opinionated. Maybe look at the specs of the subjects you wanna study to find out more about if you'd enjoy the modules or not. I also may not be very accurate with what I'm saying, but I hope my opinions were somewhat useful


Maths is only required for architecture by a minority of courses. The vast majority of courses don't have any specific A level requirements.

Reply 8

Original post by splintered-can
i'm a week away from picking my a level choices and know that i will be taking chem and maths but i can't decide on my third. my choices are bio, physics and geography. i like geography as a subject and i'm indifferent about physics but not a fan of biology. I'm planning on taking either architecture or pharmacy /chemical engineering at uni. i don't want to take a subject that's completely irrelevant to my course and do not want to be at a disadvantage when applying to unis because i have taken an irrelevant subject, I also do not want to take biology and struggle with the bio chem maths combo (as i heard a level biology is particularly hard?). Also, if i do not take a level art will i be at a disadvantage for architecture? ( i take gcse textiles but i'm not taking a level art)
THANKS XX

If you're not a fan of bio, I don't recommend taking it. It's much more difficult than what people think and you need an interest in it to get through A levels (in my opinion, as a biology student)

Reply 9

Original post by imaginary123
If you're not a fan of bio, I don't recommend taking it. It's much more difficult than what people think and you need an interest in it to get through A levels (in my opinion, as a biology student)

what exam board do you do? Is bio a mix of plant and human biology? because i don't mind human biology

Reply 10

i picked chem physics math idk man js do it

Reply 11

oh but if ur doing chemeng do further maths maths and chem

Reply 12

Original post by splintered-can
i'm a week away from picking my a level choices and know that i will be taking chem and maths but i can't decide on my third. my choices are bio, physics and geography. i like geography as a subject and i'm indifferent about physics but not a fan of biology. I'm planning on taking either architecture or pharmacy /chemical engineering at uni. i don't want to take a subject that's completely irrelevant to my course and do not want to be at a disadvantage when applying to unis because i have taken an irrelevant subject, I also do not want to take biology and struggle with the bio chem maths combo (as i heard a level biology is particularly hard?). Also, if i do not take a level art will i be at a disadvantage for architecture? ( i take gcse textiles but i'm not taking a level art)
THANKS XX

Tricky decision. Looking at it, the dilemma is that bio slightly more for the chem eng/pharm and physics architecture. You can only really keep options open by picking 4. However - Bio has a lot of content. In year 13 there will be masses to learn. This is fine - if you enjoy it, and are focussing on 3 Alevels.
Physics and maths go well together and so if you like maths and are good at it - and architecture really interests you, then go for this. Physics works for most engineering courses.

The only thing is that many people change what they want to do at uni in year 12. You might want to go for something completely different. If you aren't passionate about any of these uni courses yet - then consider the subject you are strongest in, like the most, enjoy reading about and if relevant - has the best teachers at your school
Original post by Hellohello22
Tricky decision. Looking at it, the dilemma is that bio slightly more for the chem eng/pharm and physics architecture. You can only really keep options open by picking 4. However - Bio has a lot of content. In year 13 there will be masses to learn. This is fine - if you enjoy it, and are focussing on 3 Alevels.
Physics and maths go well together and so if you like maths and are good at it - and architecture really interests you, then go for this. Physics works for most engineering courses.

The only thing is that many people change what they want to do at uni in year 12. You might want to go for something completely different. If you aren't passionate about any of these uni courses yet - then consider the subject you are strongest in, like the most, enjoy reading about and if relevant - has the best teachers at your school

For the majority of pharmacy courses, chemistry plus one other science or maths are required (so the OP doesn't need to take bio).

Physics isn't a required subject for architecture. The three courses (out of 50 plus) that mention physics in their entry requirements 'prefer' maths or physics.
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Reply 14

Original post by splintered-can
i'm a week away from picking my a level choices and know that i will be taking chem and maths but i can't decide on my third. my choices are bio, physics and geography. i like geography as a subject and i'm indifferent about physics but not a fan of biology. I'm planning on taking either architecture or pharmacy /chemical engineering at uni. i don't want to take a subject that's completely irrelevant to my course and do not want to be at a disadvantage when applying to unis because i have taken an irrelevant subject, I also do not want to take biology and struggle with the bio chem maths combo (as i heard a level biology is particularly hard?). Also, if i do not take a level art will i be at a disadvantage for architecture? ( i take gcse textiles but i'm not taking a level art)
THANKS XX

Take Geography

Reply 15

Original post by Hellohello22
Tricky decision. Looking at it, the dilemma is that bio slightly more for the chem eng/pharm and physics architecture. You can only really keep options open by picking 4. However - Bio has a lot of content. In year 13 there will be masses to learn. This is fine - if you enjoy it, and are focussing on 3 Alevels.
Physics and maths go well together and so if you like maths and are good at it - and architecture really interests you, then go for this. Physics works for most engineering courses.
The only thing is that many people change what they want to do at uni in year 12. You might want to go for something completely different. If you aren't passionate about any of these uni courses yet - then consider the subject you are strongest in, like the most, enjoy reading about and if relevant - has the best teachers at your school

thank u!

Reply 16

Original post by splintered-can
what exam board do you do? Is bio a mix of plant and human biology? because i don't mind human biology

I do Edexcel A...there is quite a lot on ecology, plants, biodiversity etc. And the mark scheme is very specific which is basically what makes the subject difficult! And yes, I also prefer the human bio part

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