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urgent- which a level should I drop?

i'm struggling to decide between dropping history and french- i'm currently predicted a* in both but am so torn about which to drop! both subjects are equally relevant for my uni course (neither are compulsory but both recommended), but every time i think about dropping one of them and keeping the other i stress out about all the aspects of the subject i dislike and everything i'd miss about the other subject if i dropped it! obviously 4 a levels probably wouldn't be sustainable but i worry about dropping history and not doing as well in french, and vice versa (they both need lots of effort and hard work, but in different ways). any help would be greatly appreciated, thank you so much!
- from a very conflicted year 12! :frown:

Reply 1

What uni course are you thinking of doing and which unis do you have in mind?
Is French your native language?
What are your other A Levels?

Reply 2

Original post by florencext
i'm struggling to decide between dropping history and french- i'm currently predicted a* in both but am so torn about which to drop! both subjects are equally relevant for my uni course (neither are compulsory but both recommended), but every time i think about dropping one of them and keeping the other i stress out about all the aspects of the subject i dislike and everything i'd miss about the other subject if i dropped it! obviously 4 a levels probably wouldn't be sustainable but i worry about dropping history and not doing as well in french, and vice versa (they both need lots of effort and hard work, but in different ways). any help would be greatly appreciated, thank you so much!
- from a very conflicted year 12! :frown:


I'd personally say that aside from all the educational benefits of either, and which parts you like and don't like, might French be more useful in the real world, for things like employability, travel, communication etc in the future? Both sound like great options though xx

Reply 3

Original post by florencext
i'm struggling to decide between dropping history and french- i'm currently predicted a* in both but am so torn about which to drop! both subjects are equally relevant for my uni course (neither are compulsory but both recommended), but every time i think about dropping one of them and keeping the other i stress out about all the aspects of the subject i dislike and everything i'd miss about the other subject if i dropped it! obviously 4 a levels probably wouldn't be sustainable but i worry about dropping history and not doing as well in french, and vice versa (they both need lots of effort and hard work, but in different ways). any help would be greatly appreciated, thank you so much!
- from a very conflicted year 12! :frown:

Is there a reason you need to drop one?

Reply 4

Original post by MaterialsEng
Is there a reason you need to drop one?

not especially, but i think i'm much more likely to do well with 3 a levels rather than 4 (i think it would actually be too stressful in the long run to take 4 subjects) 🙂

Reply 5

Original post by Divinebandit
What uni course are you thinking of doing and which unis do you have in mind?
Is French your native language?
What are your other A Levels?

i would love to go to cambridge/durham/kcl/ucl and the course i have in mind is either theology and philosophy of religion or just philosophy- i'm not a native french speaker but i do love learning a language! i also study english language and religious studies 🙂

Reply 6

Original post by florencext
not especially, but i think i'm much more likely to do well with 3 a levels rather than 4 (i think it would actually be too stressful in the long run to take 4 subjects) 🙂

Fair enough, I did 4 A-Levels and an EPQ, I didn't find it particularly stressful but I have quite a rigorous work ethic, and just grew up surrounded by workaholics. I found that because I was already doing 4, I didn't really see the additional workload, and because my schedule was packed I didn't procrastinate like other people in my 6 form, and I just worked more efficiently so I could have quality free time after school. My school also didn't allow you to go home between lessons so I had to be there 8:30-4:30 every day, so I might as well be doing something productive. I also was doing two A-Levels that I found quite easy and didn't have to revise for, so that took the pressure off, so I could spend more time revising for the other two, Maths and Physics.

I just know teachers and schools can often have a lot of prejudice against doing 4 A-Levels, but ehh, it's your education at the end of the day, you should get to choose what skills and knowledge sets you want to build and decide how important they are to your future.

Reply 7

Original post by florencext
i'm struggling to decide between dropping history and french- i'm currently predicted a* in both but am so torn about which to drop! both subjects are equally relevant for my uni course (neither are compulsory but both recommended), but every time i think about dropping one of them and keeping the other i stress out about all the aspects of the subject i dislike and everything i'd miss about the other subject if i dropped it! obviously 4 a levels probably wouldn't be sustainable but i worry about dropping history and not doing as well in french, and vice versa (they both need lots of effort and hard work, but in different ways). any help would be greatly appreciated, thank you so much!
- from a very conflicted year 12! :frown:

do you have to drop one ? think about if it would affect your end grade or not. i'm currently doing 4 and an EPQ as i couldn't decide which subject to drop, and frankly if you are getting such good grades in both, why not just get 4 a levels ?

Reply 8

Original post by ellen_ma
do you have to drop one ? think about if it would affect your end grade or not. i'm currently doing 4 and an EPQ as i couldn't decide which subject to drop, and frankly if you are getting such good grades in both, why not just get 4 a levels ?

Do you also find a lot of negativity around doing 4 A-Levels these days?

I find it so strange considering it used to be the norm that everyone did 4 subjects at least in year 12, and then maybe half the candidates dropped their worst performance. I honestly think a lot of it comes down to schools not having the resources to run 4 A-Levels and the nightmare they have with timetabling and finding quality teachers.

Reply 9

Original post by ellen_ma
do you have to drop one ? think about if it would affect your end grade or not. i'm currently doing 4 and an EPQ as i couldn't decide which subject to drop, and frankly if you are getting such good grades in both, why not just get 4 a levels ?

i'll definitely think about doing 4! i think that might actually be the best plan in the long run, since i love all of my subjects so much :smile:

Reply 10

Original post by MaterialsEng
Do you also find a lot of negativity around doing 4 A-Levels these days?
I find it so strange considering it used to be the norm that everyone did 4 subjects at least in year 12, and then maybe half the candidates dropped their worst performance. I honestly think a lot of it comes down to schools not having the resources to run 4 A-Levels and the nightmare they have with timetabling and finding quality teachers.

yes it's possible, and also schools and pupils don't bother because it's not a requirement for any uni courses - so the argument is why bother putting in the extra effort when you don't need to i guess.
there are quite a lot of students at my school taking 4 - so i wouldn't let thinking you're the odd one out put you off!!

Reply 11

Original post by ellen_ma
yes it's possible, and also schools and pupils don't bother because it's not a requirement for any uni courses - so the argument is why bother putting in the extra effort when you don't need to i guess.
there are quite a lot of students at my school taking 4 - so i wouldn't let thinking you're the odd one out put you off!!

Yeah I mean I already did my A-Levels and got A*s 😂, I just remember at the time when I was looking at different schools to do A-Levels at there was so much negative noise about doing 4 etc. I really value the knowledge I gained from each of my A-Levels and I know my degree would have been harder without each one of them. The value of being well-read can go a long way when trying to build a career these days, but schools just care about results at the end of the day.

Reply 12

Original post by florencext
i would love to go to cambridge/durham/kcl/ucl and the course i have in mind is either theology and philosophy of religion or just philosophy- i'm not a native french speaker but i do love learning a language! i also study english language and religious studies 🙂


I asked if it is your native language as some unis don't really accept native language A Levels, but that isn't relevant to you.

I don't think telling you what to do is best, I think giving your some key points to consider will help you decide.

Which subject will be easier for you to get an A* in? You want to make A Levels as straightforward as possible. You are most likely naturally better at one than the other even if you're an A* student in both.

Which one do you enjoy more? Enjoying a subject is key in A Levels, you seem to be doing great in both but if you don't really love it, you'll lose the motivation to revise.

Which subject will have skills that are more relevant to the degree you want to do? I think History will to be honest, I think the coursework and essays involved will be good preparation for the essays you'll have to do in uni for philosophy and theology.

When it comes to A Level French, consider that you will most likely be competing with people who has spoken that language their whole life so it may make it harder to achieve higher grades.

Consider the amount of coursework you'll have to do if you continue on with both English Language and History, some people like coursework being apart of their qualification, others prefer it being completely exam based. Having two courses with coursework may lead to higher workloads but you may like that it typically cuts down on the number of exams you have to take in year 13.

Will learning a language have benefits if you have the opportunity and want to take a year abroad at uni? Will learning a language have benefits when it comes to future work etc.?

Speak to your teachers, they may give you a better understanding of the demands of a course and more detailed insight into the content, this may help you decide which subject is more for you.

Hopefully these points help you decide. Good luck.

Reply 13

Original post by Divinebandit
I asked if it is your native language as some unis don't really accept native language A Levels, but that isn't relevant to you.
I don't think telling you what to do is best, I think giving your some key points to consider will help you decide.
Which subject will be easier for you to get an A* in? You want to make A Levels as straightforward as possible. You are most likely naturally better at one than the other even if you're an A* student in both.
Which one do you enjoy more? Enjoying a subject is key in A Levels, you seem to be doing great in both but if you don't really love it, you'll lose the motivation to revise.
Which subject will have skills that are more relevant to the degree you want to do? I think History will to be honest, I think the coursework and essays involved will be good preparation for the essays you'll have to do in uni for philosophy and theology.
When it comes to A Level French, consider that you will most likely be competing with people who has spoken that language their whole life so it may make it harder to achieve higher grades.
Consider the amount of coursework you'll have to do if you continue on with both English Language and History, some people like coursework being apart of their qualification, others prefer it being completely exam based. Having two courses with coursework may lead to higher workloads but you may like that it typically cuts down on the number of exams you have to take in year 13.
Will learning a language have benefits if you have the opportunity and want to take a year abroad at uni? Will learning a language have benefits when it comes to future work etc.?
Speak to your teachers, they may give you a better understanding of the demands of a course and more detailed insight into the content, this may help you decide which subject is more for you.
Hopefully these points help you decide. Good luck.

Thank you, that’s brilliant advice! I’ll have a really good think about things today 🙂

Reply 14

Original post by florencext
i'm struggling to decide between dropping history and french- i'm currently predicted a* in both but am so torn about which to drop! both subjects are equally relevant for my uni course (neither are compulsory but both recommended), but every time i think about dropping one of them and keeping the other i stress out about all the aspects of the subject i dislike and everything i'd miss about the other subject if i dropped it! obviously 4 a levels probably wouldn't be sustainable but i worry about dropping history and not doing as well in french, and vice versa (they both need lots of effort and hard work, but in different ways). any help would be greatly appreciated, thank you so much!
- from a very conflicted year 12! :frown:

think of this from a purely practical point of view: alevels have ALOT of content- especially history and french- which do you know the MOST content for? since you enjoy both and they equally have advantages for your future, this will be the best way to go about it. If you know more of the history and understand it- then ur in a better position for history yk.

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