Are there Scientist Training Programmes in other countries?
I'm looking at my options after graduating and I'm very interested in the NHS Scientist Training Programme (STP). However, I'm not keen on staying in the UK long term due to a number of factors (added at bottom of post, but you can probably guess them).
Once I've done my master's, I'm looking at moving to Australia or Germany, but I'm open to other European countries and to Japan potentially.
Are there equivalents to the Scientist Training programme in other countries and are they open to international applicants?
Notes:
I'm unhappy with the cost of living in the UK as my money simply no longer goes as far. 5 years ago I could afford a lovely 2 bed flat in Glasgow (no roommate), no car. Now I cannot afford to live without a roommate and the cost of food and transport is constantly increasing. Salaries are not increasing with inflation but costs are going up.
The political climate in the UK makes me sad. [Do not read if you're politically sensitive, this is my honest opinion] Ten years ago we seemed to be moving forward but many things in this country are getting worse, we have a housing crisis, increasing nationalism, the biggest one for me, the NHS is really broken. To avoid doxxing myself I won't state the disease but I was seriously ill last year and it took 8 hours in A&E to be seen and I didn't get any diagnostic tests for 8 months. Don't get me wrong once I was seen healthcare was good, but the wait times are going to kill people soon if the government doesn't act. No one in government seems to be actually fixing anything imho. Science is suffering in this country since we left the EU leading to a shift of trials to America.
I have SAD (seasonal affective disorder) which makes winter challenging for me every year. So even moving to a European country will improve my symptoms by giving more winter daylight. I love heat and summer and hot weather, I take 40C very well.
Notes on language:
I'm B1 in German language so Germany seems the most obvious choice.
Japan would be a long shot but I'd consider it as I have basic Japanese and have visited the country before.
The USA is off my list since Trump got in, the politics over there are scary.
Once I've done my master's, I'm looking at moving to Australia or Germany, but I'm open to other European countries and to Japan potentially.
Are there equivalents to the Scientist Training programme in other countries and are they open to international applicants?
Notes:
I'm unhappy with the cost of living in the UK as my money simply no longer goes as far. 5 years ago I could afford a lovely 2 bed flat in Glasgow (no roommate), no car. Now I cannot afford to live without a roommate and the cost of food and transport is constantly increasing. Salaries are not increasing with inflation but costs are going up.
The political climate in the UK makes me sad. [Do not read if you're politically sensitive, this is my honest opinion] Ten years ago we seemed to be moving forward but many things in this country are getting worse, we have a housing crisis, increasing nationalism, the biggest one for me, the NHS is really broken. To avoid doxxing myself I won't state the disease but I was seriously ill last year and it took 8 hours in A&E to be seen and I didn't get any diagnostic tests for 8 months. Don't get me wrong once I was seen healthcare was good, but the wait times are going to kill people soon if the government doesn't act. No one in government seems to be actually fixing anything imho. Science is suffering in this country since we left the EU leading to a shift of trials to America.
I have SAD (seasonal affective disorder) which makes winter challenging for me every year. So even moving to a European country will improve my symptoms by giving more winter daylight. I love heat and summer and hot weather, I take 40C very well.
Notes on language:
I'm B1 in German language so Germany seems the most obvious choice.
Japan would be a long shot but I'd consider it as I have basic Japanese and have visited the country before.
The USA is off my list since Trump got in, the politics over there are scary.
Reply 1
There are no equivalents to clinical scientists in those countries (or anywhere else in europe) so no equivalent to the STP.
If you are concerned about the state of the NHS, then working in it for 3 years is probably not sensible. Each STP is over £200k of NHS money to train. Planning to leave immediately after graduating is allowed, but is also part of the problem rather than the solution.
If you are concerned about the state of the NHS, then working in it for 3 years is probably not sensible. Each STP is over £200k of NHS money to train. Planning to leave immediately after graduating is allowed, but is also part of the problem rather than the solution.
Reply 2
1
What specialism are you looking to specialise in for the STP?
For example, if you are looking at cardiac science, USA has board certification for cardiac Technologist. There is ASCP that certifies Medical Laboratory Scientist in the USA too.
All in all, if you do choose to leave only after completing the STP, many countries will give recognition to your training and allow you to register with their board, such as in Australia or New Zealand, or practise on a equivalent position.
There are also mamy countries in Asia (e.g. Singapore) that do not yet have proper registration or training in place for many of the specialisms offered in STP so if you are a trained clinical scientist, I will imagine you to be a strong candidate for employment.
For example, if you are looking at cardiac science, USA has board certification for cardiac Technologist. There is ASCP that certifies Medical Laboratory Scientist in the USA too.
All in all, if you do choose to leave only after completing the STP, many countries will give recognition to your training and allow you to register with their board, such as in Australia or New Zealand, or practise on a equivalent position.
There are also mamy countries in Asia (e.g. Singapore) that do not yet have proper registration or training in place for many of the specialisms offered in STP so if you are a trained clinical scientist, I will imagine you to be a strong candidate for employment.
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