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Oxford - Law Admissions Report 2024-5

Law Admissions Report 2024-25.pdf

2.1.4 Statistics on Shortlisted applicants

Average number of GCSEs of those shortlisted was 7.73.

Average number of GCSEs of those receiving an offer was 8.78.

Average LNAT MCT score of those shortlisted was 29.18.

Average LNAT MCT score of those receiving an offer was 30.96.

Average Essay mark of those shortlisted was 64.53.

Average Essay mark of those receiving an offer was 65.41.

Section 3 Pre-Interview Admission tests

MCT results and essays are available on ADSS from 25th October.

LNAT MCT is marked externally; LNAT essays are marked internally using No More Marking and are available as PDFs for each candidate on ADSS.

Average LNAT MCT of all 2061 candidates was 24.5.

Average LNAT MCT score of those shortlisted was 29.18.

Average LNAT MCT score of those receiving an offer was 30.96.

Average LNAT essay of all candidates was 62.75.

Average Essay mark of those shortlisted was 64.53.

Average Essay mark of those receiving an offer was 65.41.

Reply 1

@Stiffy Byng are you surprised a LNAT score of 30 was required for an offer?!

Reply 2

Would you like me to explain what "average" means?

Reply 3

Original post by Stiffy Byng
Would you like me to explain what "average" means?
I know right, 31 was almost the average score?! Which is quite high.
(edited 3 months ago)

Reply 4

Original post by thegeek888
I know right, 31 was almost the average score?! Which is quite high.

You asserted incorrectly that a score of 30 was required for an offer. This suggests that you do not know what the word average means.

Reply 5

Original post by thegeek888
@Stiffy Byng are you surprised a LNAT score of 30 was required for an offer?!

Don’t you do further maths at A level?

Reply 6

Read with interest as a parent of a candidate who did not get an offer. One interview had one question on her PS regarding how she had learned of the Ed Sheeran copyright case (which she had referenced) Very aggressive tone. Her response was that it had been referenced in an essay prompt (Northeastern Univ essays) did not seem to be satisfactory to the interviewer both in his facial expression and (as she reported - a “huff and a snort”. She came out feeling he clearly did not believe her answer and that he assumed a tutor/teacher had fed her this info. Which despite her being at an indep school was not true - she found the competition online, entered and was a finalist. School frankly was worthless in helping with supracurriculars. Husband (oxford law) felt the lack of any personal motivation questions ie why law was completely contradictory to his interview experience nor that of our other daughter in her interviews at Cambridge for languages (offer received). She has moved on now and will succeed elsewhere on a course with more flexibility but the admission interviewers attitude confirmed to her she would not have been happy in a place where tutors were not willing to believe student responses.

Reply 7

Original post by Anonymous
Read with interest as a parent of a candidate who did not get an offer. One interview had one question on her PS regarding how she had learned of the Ed Sheeran copyright case (which she had referenced) Very aggressive tone. Her response was that it had been referenced in an essay prompt (Northeastern Univ essays) did not seem to be satisfactory to the interviewer both in his facial expression and (as she reported - a “huff and a snort”. She came out feeling he clearly did not believe her answer and that he assumed a tutor/teacher had fed her this info. Which despite her being at an indep school was not true - she found the competition online, entered and was a finalist. School frankly was worthless in helping with supracurriculars. Husband (oxford law) felt the lack of any personal motivation questions ie why law was completely contradictory to his interview experience nor that of our other daughter in her interviews at Cambridge for languages (offer received). She has moved on now and will succeed elsewhere on a course with more flexibility but the admission interviewers attitude confirmed to her she would not have been happy in a place where tutors were not willing to believe student responses.

Reading your post with interest Anon,
My daughter also applied for law and had an in-person interview with two professors. She is also at an independent school who were also useless re helping or suggesting supracurriculars. She came out of her interview feeling the interviewer was aggressive with questions re her LNAT essay - "surely you acknowledge X" and "you must see Y is ridiculous" sort of statements that weren't really questions but more statements of indignation. She felt they took an instant dislike to her. DOS spent half the interview looking preoccupied with something unrelated he was reading while the second interviewer was questioning her about her PS - these were shallow and general questions which she felt didn't give her much scope to expand on any of the points she had raised. She was given some legislation to read before the interview, which she felt she had digested well and was armed ready to answer some tricky questions on, but they never came - instead they had her rephrase some particular sentence what seemed like 7 or 8 times and they were unsatisfied with each answer given, eventually giving up and telling her the answer they were hoping for. They never asked her anything about why she wanted to study law or her career aspirations, areas of interest, anything like that at all. She felt they really didn't give her a chance to impress or even to answer anything especially relevant and were abrupt and dismissive, unlike reports from others at different colleges who said their interviewers did their best to put them at ease, expained they weren't there to catch them out, etc. She came out almost in tears - and she got an offer inJan without even being sent to the pool. So, I'm not sure your husband is right about personal motivation questions being asked routinely - we have heard the opposite, although teachers when doing mock interviews seem to spend a lot of time focusing on these sort of qs, and the minutiae of the PS, which aren't usually examined in much depth if any. My daughter also has almost nothing in the way of supra- or extracurriculars on her PS- just something about attending politics society at school. I don't think they care about these things at Oxbridge. My other daughter is at Cambridge reading English and she had literally zero mention of anything other than books she had read on her PS. I really doubt others who got accepted were given an easier time of it than your daughter was. Probably more to do with LNAT score / others just having demonstrated something or other that impressed them.

Reply 8

Original post by Anonymous
Reading your post with interest Anon,
My daughter also applied for law and had an in-person interview with two professors. She is also at an independent school who were also useless re helping or suggesting supracurriculars. She came out of her interview feeling the interviewer was aggressive with questions re her LNAT essay - "surely you acknowledge X" and "you must see Y is ridiculous" sort of statements that weren't really questions but more statements of indignation. She felt they took an instant dislike to her. DOS spent half the interview looking preoccupied with something unrelated he was reading while the second interviewer was questioning her about her PS - these were shallow and general questions which she felt didn't give her much scope to expand on any of the points she had raised. She was given some legislation to read before the interview, which she felt she had digested well and was armed ready to answer some tricky questions on, but they never came - instead they had her rephrase some particular sentence what seemed like 7 or 8 times and they were unsatisfied with each answer given, eventually giving up and telling her the answer they were hoping for. They never asked her anything about why she wanted to study law or her career aspirations, areas of interest, anything like that at all. She felt they really didn't give her a chance to impress or even to answer anything especially relevant and were abrupt and dismissive, unlike reports from others at different colleges who said their interviewers did their best to put them at ease, expained they weren't there to catch them out, etc. She came out almost in tears - and she got an offer inJan without even being sent to the pool. So, I'm not sure your husband is right about personal motivation questions being asked routinely - we have heard the opposite, although teachers when doing mock interviews seem to spend a lot of time focusing on these sort of qs, and the minutiae of the PS, which aren't usually examined in much depth if any. My daughter also has almost nothing in the way of supra- or extracurriculars on her PS- just something about attending politics society at school. I don't think they care about these things at Oxbridge. My other daughter is at Cambridge reading English and she had literally zero mention of anything other than books she had read on her PS. I really doubt others who got accepted were given an easier time of it than your daughter was. Probably more to do with LNAT score / others just having demonstrated something or other that impressed them.
Yes, I have been told by a few admissions tutors I've emailed at Oxford colleges that the LNAT is a huge factor in being interviewed and being made an offer.

Reply 9

Original post by Anonymous
Read with interest as a parent of a candidate who did not get an offer. One interview had one question on her PS regarding how she had learned of the Ed Sheeran copyright case (which she had referenced) Very aggressive tone. Her response was that it had been referenced in an essay prompt (Northeastern Univ essays) did not seem to be satisfactory to the interviewer both in his facial expression and (as she reported - a “huff and a snort”. She came out feeling he clearly did not believe her answer and that he assumed a tutor/teacher had fed her this info. Which despite her being at an indep school was not true - she found the competition online, entered and was a finalist. School frankly was worthless in helping with supracurriculars. Husband (oxford law) felt the lack of any personal motivation questions ie why law was completely contradictory to his interview experience nor that of our other daughter in her interviews at Cambridge for languages (offer received). She has moved on now and will succeed elsewhere on a course with more flexibility but the admission interviewers attitude confirmed to her she would not have been happy in a place where tutors were not willing to believe student responses.

I don't know about the other colleges, but when I interviewed at Brasenose for Law many years ago, I did not get a single personal motivation question. I had three interviews (flubbed my second so was summoned back for a third) and all of them were focused solely on analysing the case law I had been given pre-interview.

This approach does make sense to me though because I don't think one's motivation for studying Law really speaks to their aptitude for it per se (which is what the interview process is intended to test). I know people who didn't care much for their subject and still graduated with a first.

Reply 10

Original post by mishieru07
I don't know about the other colleges, but when I interviewed at Brasenose for Law many years ago, I did not get a single personal motivation question. I had three interviews (flubbed my second so was summoned back for a third) and all of them were focused solely on analysing the case law I had been given pre-interview.
This approach does make sense to me though because I don't think one's motivation for studying Law really speaks to their aptitude for it per se (which is what the interview process is intended to test). I know people who didn't care much for their subject and still graduated with a first.

Indeed. It's also a question that can be rehearsed - like questions on the PS - and the interview is a way to discover how an applicant thinks, not how well they can regurgitate. It's not a job interview.

Questions about love of the subject, college/university choice, career aspirations, etc. can't really be used to differentiate. One has to assume that a candidate with a string of A* predictions, high LNAT score, interesting PS, has given their subject and college choice some thought, so asking them to elaborate on the reasons for their choice doesn't serve any purpose unless you advocate for places to be given out to those who are "hungriest" for the chance - again, it's not a job interview, and places should be offered on merit.

Also, many study law who have no interest in ever practising law. If anything, I think they are more impressed with those who have an abstract, academic interest than those who need a law degree for practical purposes. But they should not choose candidates on that basis.

Reply 11

Original post by thegeek888
I know right, 31 was almost the average score?! Which is quite high.

As someone that got 31 and a Cambridge offer, it really does surprise me considering recent years the average has been closer to 27, although of course this number may have been skewed by the reduced MCQ answers from 5 to 4, this may have brought the overall average up, skewing the data slightly

Reply 12

Original post by Stiffy Byng
You asserted incorrectly that a score of 30 was required for an offer. This suggests that you do not know what the word average means.

I would have been interested to know the median and mode aswell instead of just the mean, as i suspect that there would've been many people with significantly less than that score that got offers, and it was skewed by some very high scores in the 30s

Reply 13

Original post by Anonymous
I would have been interested to know the median and mode aswell instead of just the mean, as i suspect that there would've been many people with significantly less than that score that got offers, and it was skewed by some very high scores in the 30s

Some more numbers here -

https://www.mansfield.ox.ac.uk/wp-content/uploads/2025/01/Law-Admissions-Feedback-2024-25.pdf

One applicant scored below 10 in the LNAT and was interviewed. The lowest LNAT score of an offer holder was 16. One applicant scored 35 but was not interviewed.

41.3% of candidates received offers from a college to which the candidate had not applied.
(edited 2 months ago)

Reply 14

Original post by Stiffy Byng
Some more numbers here -
https://www.mansfield.ox.ac.uk/wp-content/uploads/2025/01/Law-Admissions-Feedback-2024-25.pdf
One applicant scored below 10 in the LNAT and was interviewed. The lowest LNAT score of an offer holder was 16. One applicant scored 35 but was not interviewed.
41.3% of candidates received offers from a college to which the candidate had not applied.
This is insightful:

In the interviews tutors looked for:

concentration and enthusiasm

ability to make a sustained and cogent argument

ability to distinguish relevant from irrelevant

ability to identify and explain weaknesses in argument

creativity, flexibility of thought, lateral thinking

ability to give clear and articulated responses.

Reply 15

Original post by Stiffy Byng
Some more numbers here -
https://www.mansfield.ox.ac.uk/wp-content/uploads/2025/01/Law-Admissions-Feedback-2024-25.pdf
One applicant scored below 10 in the LNAT and was interviewed. The lowest LNAT score of an offer holder was 16. One applicant scored 35 but was not interviewed.
41.3% of candidates received offers from a college to which the candidate had not applied.
Oh my goodness?! ☹️ I wonder why the achiever of 35 in LNAT was not interviewed? 😧

A score of less than 10 got an interview?! 😧 Just shows the LNAT is only on factor in Law admissions. 🙂

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