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Pre reg struggle optometry

I have just started my pre reg and I’m really struggling. I couldn’t find a place anywhere nearby so I had to move away from home. I don’t know anyone here. I had my first testing day and I’m on 45 minutes. I feel as though I’m not even doing the test properly because I’m rushing so much. The pxs I had were young with simple rx and no pathology but when I get more complex pxs I will not be able to finish on time. I still can’t do Volk and it’s stressing me out so much despite all the practice I’ve done. I don’t even trust my own refraction. Asking for more time is not an option because all the pre regs did it in that time before me. I don’t know how I’m supposed to deal with every situation and answer all the pxs questions. I know everyone finds it challenging but every morning I wake up crying and I’m unable to sleep or eat. I feel as though this profession isn’t for me but I just want to finish what I started but I don’t know how long I can go like this.

Reply 1

Hi I am 6-7 months into my pre reg now.
I also had to move away from home, I was in denial at first (I thought I could do a 2 hr drive there and back every day) but eventually admitted I needed to move out as the commute wasn’t possible. Try to look at the positives, you have a quiet place to revise when you need to, you will have a good routine and it will teach you independence and money management.

It is really lonely at the start, if you come from a larger family like myself I’d understand why you feel it more. Try and get to know the area on your day off, explore the town nearby get comfortable with it as this is where you’ll be staying for the next year possibly 2.

Eventually you will make friends with co-workers and you can make plans on your day off.
I took my cat with me, it sounds silly but it feels like a part of home is with me she is a good distraction and does help with the loneliness.
Regular phone calls/ FaceTime catch ups with friends and family will help a lot with the loneliness.

With regards to work I understand 45 mins is reallt short considering you are testing for the first time
History and symptoms just try to get the main details, cut the patient off (in a nice way if they are talking too much) eventually you will establish your flow.
With refraction if you are using ret ideally you will need more time
Once you’ve got your auto results try not to dwell on refraction too much going back and fourth between lenses. Look at the prev rx, look at the autos and VA in current pair and you will know roughly what your prescription is The key is practice, you will get better and quicker.
As soon as you get a spare min practice volk. I would practice towards the end of the day when clinic is over or when a patient didn’t turn up.
Again don’t be afraid to ask for help that’s what your supervisor is there for.

Ask your supervisor if you can watch in on other optoms/pre reg’s testing to get an idea of how to form your routine.

Hope this advise helps, power through I know it can be difficult especially at the start

Reply 2

Original post by jellymilk
I have just started my pre reg and I’m really struggling. I couldn’t find a place anywhere nearby so I had to move away from home. I don’t know anyone here. I had my first testing day and I’m on 45 minutes. I feel as though I’m not even doing the test properly because I’m rushing so much. The pxs I had were young with simple rx and no pathology but when I get more complex pxs I will not be able to finish on time. I still can’t do Volk and it’s stressing me out so much despite all the practice I’ve done. I don’t even trust my own refraction. Asking for more time is not an option because all the pre regs did it in that time before me. I don’t know how I’m supposed to deal with every situation and answer all the pxs questions. I know everyone finds it challenging but every morning I wake up crying and I’m unable to sleep or eat. I feel as though this profession isn’t for me but I just want to finish what I started but I don’t know how long I can go like this.

I don't know what is the demand on time and why do you need it. Sometimes even a simple test can last longer then an hour. Confidence will be built with time. What you need is a supporting environment. If you passed the theoretical exams it means your knowledge of things is good enough, you only need practice and experience. Don't rush and don't let the px feel you are rushing. Take your time, sometimes just talk with your pxs to get them trust you and cooperate with you.

What makes you feel insecure about your refractions? PM me if you want.

Reply 3

Original post by haleema123456
Hi I am 6-7 months into my pre reg now.
I also had to move away from home, I was in denial at first (I thought I could do a 2 hr drive there and back every day) but eventually admitted I needed to move out as the commute wasn’t possible. Try to look at the positives, you have a quiet place to revise when you need to, you will have a good routine and it will teach you independence and money management.
It is really lonely at the start, if you come from a larger family like myself I’d understand why you feel it more. Try and get to know the area on your day off, explore the town nearby get comfortable with it as this is where you’ll be staying for the next year possibly 2.
Eventually you will make friends with co-workers and you can make plans on your day off.
I took my cat with me, it sounds silly but it feels like a part of home is with me she is a good distraction and does help with the loneliness.
Regular phone calls/ FaceTime catch ups with friends and family will help a lot with the loneliness.
With regards to work I understand 45 mins is reallt short considering you are testing for the first time
History and symptoms just try to get the main details, cut the patient off (in a nice way if they are talking too much) eventually you will establish your flow.
With refraction if you are using ret ideally you will need more time
Once you’ve got your auto results try not to dwell on refraction too much going back and fourth between lenses. Look at the prev rx, look at the autos and VA in current pair and you will know roughly what your prescription is The key is practice, you will get better and quicker.
As soon as you get a spare min practice volk. I would practice towards the end of the day when clinic is over or when a patient didn’t turn up.
Again don’t be afraid to ask for help that’s what your supervisor is there for.
Ask your supervisor if you can watch in on other optoms/pre reg’s testing to get an idea of how to form your routine.
Hope this advise helps, power through I know it can be difficult especially at the start

I really appreciate your advice! it honestly means a lot. It’s reassuring to hear from someone who’s been through this, especially with moving.

With testing, I don’t do ret when there’s a previous rx because I just don’t have the time. Unfortunately, we don’t have an autorefractor at my store, so my subjective has to be perfect, which makes me even more nervous. I really wish it was double-checked. Alsoa I don’t know how much help I can reasonably ask for. Do you have any advice on what’s fair to ask at my stage?

Also, I’m terrified of overrunning. my manager and director are very adamant about me finishing on time, so that pressure is always at the back of my mind. I have my second testing day tomorrow, and I’m absolutely ******** myself

Reply 4

Original post by Kathy89
I don't know what is the demand on time and why do you need it. Sometimes even a simple test can last longer then an hour. Confidence will be built with time. What you need is a supporting environment. If you passed the theoretical exams it means your knowledge of things is good enough, you only need practice and experience. Don't rush and don't let the px feel you are rushing. Take your time, sometimes just talk with your pxs to get them trust you and cooperate with you.
What makes you feel insecure about your refractions? PM me if you want.

Thanks for replying, I really appreciate it. The pressure to finish on time comes from my manager and director. they’re very strict about it, which makes me really anxious. I know confidence will come with time, but right now, I just feel like I don’t know anything, and it’s overwhelming. I think I feel insecure about my refractions because we don’t have an autorefractor, so there’s no backup if I get it wrong, and I feel like I’m rushing too much. I’ll PM you!

Reply 5

Hey I sent you a dm with some advice too 🙂

Reply 6

Original post by jellymilk
Thanks for replying, I really appreciate it. The pressure to finish on time comes from my manager and director. they’re very strict about it, which makes me really anxious. I know confidence will come with time, but right now, I just feel like I don’t know anything, and it’s overwhelming. I think I feel insecure about my refractions because we don’t have an autorefractor, so there’s no backup if I get it wrong, and I feel like I’m rushing too much. I’ll PM you!

Auto-refractometer is overrated. It saves some time, but it is not a megical tool to magically tell what RX the PX needs. You can test the power and axis you give with several tools. The sun/star/clock chart for example. You can also switch between snellen, E and C charts to varify your result.
Refractometer is not a diagnostic equipment so don't treat it that way, even if your results are not accurate you can work with that fine.
Also you gave to communicate with the patient, ask the right questions. Instead of "what is better A or B?" if they are unsure ask if A is darker or lighter than B or clearer or less clear, or smaller or bigger... use the green-red background to prevent overminus/overplus. Always test upclose vision as well. Go outside the room with the trial frame to let the patient look at things under more natural conditions.

Honestly, I think the problem is not in your professionalism or skills, but in the policies of the place you work at that just doesn't fit the style you work. Not everyone is built for chain stores, some need a more personal approach and to take the time.

I will answer your PM later when I will be on the computer, maybe even tomorrow, it will be long. XD
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Reply 7

Original post by Kathy89
Auto-refractometer is overrated. It saves some time, but it is not a megical tool to magically tell what RX the PX needs. You can test the power and axis you give with several tools. The sun/star/clock chart for example. You can also switch between snellen, E and C charts to varify your result.
Refractometer is not a diagnostic equipment so don't treat it that way, even if your results are not accurate you can work with that fine.
Also you gave to communicate with the patient, ask the right questions. Instead of "what is better A or B?" if they are unsure ask if A is darker or lighter than B or clearer or less clear, or smaller or bigger... use the green-red background to prevent overminus/overplus. Always test upclose vision as well. Go outside the room with the trial frame to let the patient look at things under more natural conditions.
Honestly, I think the problem is not in your professionalism or skills, but in the policies of the place you work at that just don't fit the style you work. Not everyone is built for chain stores, some need a more personal approach and to take the time.
I will answer your PM later when I will be on the computer, maybe even tomorrow, it will be long. XD

Thank you so much for your advice. It’s really helpful. Yeah, working in practice is so different. it’s really hard to test properly in just 40 minutes right from the start. In uni, I had 1 hour 30 for presbyopes, and now it’s only 45?! It’s such a big jump, and I really don’t feel confident at all. I just feel like I’m rushing everything. My other pre-reg friends started with 1 hour 30, so it’s hard not to feel like I’m not smart or skilled enough to manage in such a small timeframe.

I really appreciate your advice, especially about phrasing questions better. I’ll definitely work on that. And yeah, I think you’re right about chain store policies not always suiting everyone’s style. I’m still trying to figure out how to balance efficiency with being thorough. Looking forward to your PM when you get the chance!

Reply 8

Original post by jellymilk
Thank you so much for your advice. It’s really helpful. Yeah, working in practice is so different. it’s really hard to test properly in just 40 minutes right from the start. In uni, I had 1 hour 30 for presbyopes, and now it’s only 45?! It’s such a big jump, and I really don’t feel confident at all. I just feel like I’m rushing everything. My other pre-reg friends started with 1 hour 30, so it’s hard not to feel like I’m not smart or skilled enough to manage in such a small timeframe.
I really appreciate your advice, especially about phrasing questions better. I’ll definitely work on that. And yeah, I think you’re right about chain store policies not always suiting everyone’s style. I’m still trying to figure out how to balance efficiency with being thorough. Looking forward to your PM when you get the chance!
Looks like I'm having problems with sending PM. If you got 3 messages it is by mistake. I can't open them in the "sent" sector and it looks like you didn't get them either.

Anyways if it is fine to answer here just give me a permission to quote you.

Do you have your own equipment for the studying? We had to buy some equipment for ourselves and could keep it. Retinoscope and a trial lens set was part of it so we could practice on our own. If you have an equipment test your friends and get some experience.

Sometimes my university invites me to be a test subject for students because I'm an interesting case for testing for Y3. I have a pretty simple prescription but I have eye fatigue and wear progressives since uni (needed them probably since highschool). Students most often don't know how to deal with it (well, all my previous optometrists couldn't find it either).
You need someone like me to convince the boss that 45 min. Is not enough at all.

Most of the tests for simple rx are 10-20 minutes and are very easy. You need a Snellen and 1 or 2 verification tests (green-red and reading with the new rx up close), usually it's enough, other tests can get to an hour or longer.
Try to find the right tests for the right cases and not doing unnecessary tests. If you feel you are unsure about something always make sure the patient understands that they can come back for a re-check. It is not being unprofessional it is working by the rules of your place yet staying ethic and professional. You can keep acting like that until they change the rules or at least let you work the way you are comfortable and good at.
I'm sure with practice you'd be better, for now just don't pay attention to the time and do your job. I was slow too at the beginning and didn't like working for a chain because of the stress with finishing faster and the sales part (sales demands were terrible).

Hope you will feel better and less stressed about your job.
Best of luck.
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